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Somewhere you'd struggle to hear! wink_face.gif

For sure...it is like knowing ur car can do 100km/h in 2sec eventhough u dont need that ability...its about feeling,the feel of satisfaction lol
post #332 of 511
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Im so excited waiting to recieve mine smily_headphones1.gif
Does anyone know exactly where the treble of nt6-pro start to roll off??

Is this not enough treble extension for you?  :wink_face:  Most BA iems rolls off around 10k, look at the $1k SE846 graph.

 

 

Would it be a close assessment to say NT-6 is sorta like JH13 and the pro is like JH16 with more bass?


Edited by SilverEars - 5/31/14 at 11:27am
post #333 of 511
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Originally Posted by hotfever View Post

Im so excited waiting to recieve mine smily_headphones1.gif

Does anyone know exactly where the treble of nt6-pro start to roll off??
Is this not enough treble extension for you?  wink_face.gif   Most BA iems rolls off around 10k, look at the $1k SE846 graph.




Would it be a close assessment to say NT-6 is sorta like JH13 and the pro is like JH16 with more bass?

I think I heard the jh16 bass is always on and enhanced. The pro only has bass if it is in the music. The pro is very neutral vs warm with clarity being its call to fame. The pro is 5 way vs non pros 4way with the extra division going to sub bass I believe.
post #334 of 511
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post


The pro only has bass if it is in the music.

 

Very true

post #335 of 511
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Is this not enough treble extension for you?  :wink_face:  Most BA iems rolls off around 10k, look at the $1k SE846 graph.

 

 

Would it be a close assessment to say NT-6 is sorta like JH13 and the pro is like JH16 with more bass?

cant tell exactly where the treble start to roll off,look like 16khz,right???that is just on par with my er4s.......nothing fancy :(,but the sub-bass look scary lol


Edited by hotfever - 5/31/14 at 7:40pm
post #336 of 511
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cant tell exactly where the treble start to roll off,look like 16khz,right???that is just on par with my er4s.......nothing fancy :(

Look, at all the other BA iem graphs and get back to us.  ;)

post #337 of 511
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Look, at all the other BA iem graphs and get back to us.  ;)

im back for more :)...........double check with jh 13,nt6 pro extend a lil bit further and on par with uerm.but the low look very extreme :(

post #338 of 511
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Originally Posted by hotfever View Post
 

im back for more :)...........double check with jh 13,nt6 pro extend a lil bit further and on par with uerm.but the low look very extreme :(

 

I can guarantee you that the bass is not intrusive on the other frequencies. 

This iem is extremely clean sounding, and the bass only comes alive when it is called for.

And the bass is exceedingly well controlled.

post #339 of 511

Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but is there any further benefit to the sound quality resulted from a bit of further extension in the highest frequencies? AFAIK, a nicely extended treble range above 10kHz mostly serves to give more "air" to the stage, and as long as it doesn't drop off too soon, the discernible difference between two monitors with roughly equally good treble extension is mostly minimal compared to what's going on below 10kHz. So am I correct in saying that if I were the self-proclaimed treblehead that hotfever assumes he is, I should be looking for emphasis in the treble frequency below 10kHz instead of getting obsessed with what's above it?

post #340 of 511
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Originally Posted by 3nenbgumi View Post
 

Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but is there any further benefit to the sound quality resulted from a bit of further extension in the highest frequencies? AFAIK, a nicely extended treble range above 10kHz mostly serves to give more "air" to the stage, and as long as it doesn't drop off too soon, the discernible difference between two monitors with roughly equally good treble extension is mostly minimal compared to what's going on below 10kHz. So am I correct in saying that if I were the self-proclaimed treblehead that hotfever assumes he is, I should be looking for emphasis in the treble frequency below 10kHz instead of getting obsessed with what's above it?

You bring up a good point. I think it depends on how much variations in treble that you want to hear if you are capable.  Maximum we hear is up to 20k, but most people cannot hear that high.  I believe about 14k is reasonable for most people, and if it extends around that area or more, it should not miss subtle sounds.  So this is why I believe the treble extension has an importance.  Maintaining stready treble up to a reasonable point to not exclude noticeable sound is desired of course.  The NT-6 is regarded as being very detailed and clear.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/31/14 at 11:19pm
post #341 of 511

Treble extension is very important at least to me. After two weeks of comparing, UERM has unbeatable high end, while NT-6 are amazing for the rest. Wish those two can be merged together :) If I can have such a treble with my NT-6, they can be called ultimate CIEMs. According to the graphs, NT-6 Pro seems to have that high end extension, which is very promising and can be on par with UERM. But I'm afraid that 0-100Hz bump looks really scary. NT-6 goes from 0 to 200 Hz +5dB, but for NT-6 Pro it is +10db, so I'm not sure what it can exactly cause. Anyway I guess this can be easily EQ'd when needed, however treble extension can't be EQ'd if the BA driver has no range over here:)

post #342 of 511

John, I don't think you have the right source for these.  Once you run into it, it will hit you.  I'm hearing the craziest dynamics for iems I've ever heard.  Clarity and detailing is just crazy. I don't find it lacking treble, I don't like overly bright.  I think your brain is used to bright sound, and you just need to let your brain get used to NT-6 over time, and when you go back to UERM, you'll hear brightness.  Once you find that amp that can bring NT-6 to bring out it's characteristics, it will hit you.  Good luck!


Edited by SilverEars - 6/8/14 at 9:34pm
post #343 of 511
I think John Culter is talking about nt6 and Silver Ear is talking about nt6 pro....they are abit different but,is nt6 pro treble extend abit higher vs nt6???
post #344 of 511
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

John, I don't think you have the right source for these.  Once you run into it, it will hit you.  I'm hearing the craziest dynamics for iems I've ever heard.  Clarity and detailing is just crazy. I don't find it lacking treble, I don't like overly bright.  I think your brain is used to bright sound, and you just need to let your brain get used to NT-6 over time, and when you go back to UERM, you'll hear brightness.  Once you find that amp that can bring NT-6 to bring out it's characteristics, it will hit you.  Good luck!

Don't get me wrong, it can look like I'm complaining about the quality of the highest rated in-ears as they sound like crap ;) No, it is not like that - they are amazing in every way. I do believe the right source is very important and can reveal big difference. But on the other hand Audioquest Dragonfly is in my opinion not that bad DAC and sufficient AMP for those CIEMs to reveal their capabilities. Especially when the comparison between UERM and NT6 is done under same conditions. On the same setup UERM are able to play some frequencies, which I clearly miss on the NT6 (highs) and vice versa (missing some sub bass on the UERM). 

 

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I think John Culter is talking about nt6 and Silver Ear is talking about nt6 pro....they are abit different but,is nt6 pro treble extend abit higher vs nt6???

When I put both graphs next to each other, it looks like the NT6 pro have different progress of the high frequencies, but the roll off seems to start at the same point. So it can be the answer - for the UERM if I'm not wrong, it extends almost to 20k.

 

post #345 of 511
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Originally Posted by John Culter View Post

Don't get me wrong, it can look like I'm complaining about the quality of the highest rated in-ears as they sound like crap wink.gif No, it is not like that - they are amazing in every way. I do believe the right source is very important and can reveal big difference. But on the other hand Audioquest Dragonfly is in my opinion not that bad DAC and sufficient AMP for those CIEMs to reveal their capabilities. Especially when the comparison between UERM and NT6 is done under same conditions. On the same setup UERM are able to play some frequencies, which I clearly miss on the NT6 (highs) and vice versa (missing some sub bass on the UERM). 

When I put both graphs next to each other, it looks like the NT6 pro have different progress of the high frequencies, but the roll off seems to start at the same point. So it can be the answer - for the UERM if I'm not wrong, it extends almost to 20k.





Im a treble-head too and yes.... I want that 20k eventhought my ears cant reach that high...but i want it to be there...but a_j test the uerm treble to start to roll off @ 16,5 khz frown.gif
Edited by hotfever - 6/12/14 at 10:04am
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