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post #271 of 511
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I am very treble sensitive myself, probably the biggest reason that I tend to be a low volume listener, but I still have trouble calling the NT6 Pro a bright CIEM - hence hot treble. I guess it is a matter of prospective. I don't have the experience of hearing all the great CIEMs like average joe for perspective, but to me the NT6 Pro feels very neutral in signature with everything that I have paired it with. However, being painfully neutral, the NT6pro does't have the mid nor mid-bass bump to cover up its highs so they do come through with great clarity and detail. I think the NT6pro's secret sauce is its 5-way configuration allowing the BAs to focus on a smaller range for greater clarity and better blackness. However the low end goes really low with a lot of authority as well providing a very balanced sound with nothing getting in the way of anything else. If the sound is not there, there is just blackness unlike the bright IEMs that I have heard the just continue hissing at you without any bass to back up the sound. It is actually the treble extension that provides the rich 3d texturing to the bass that makes it so realistic rather than just being a bass fart. With a kick drum for example, using a well recorded source, it allows you to hear the pedal, the slap, the boom, the reverb, and the decay and even the stop if kicked again.

I wish there was an easy way for you to hear them yourself, you would see what I mean.

A week ago I wouldn't have agreed with you Barra, but after the 100 hour+ extra burn in of the Nt6 pros, I now do. I also wouldn't call them overly bright now. They were before. I was using the eq to bring down the aggressive, overpowering treble above 4kHz. Now, no eq. Complete change. Vocals have come out, far greater coherence is present.

Listening to anything I have, included poorly mastered or deliberately grainy and trebly recordings, I don't touch the eq. These are amazing IEMs. Mids are now great as well. I can't imagine people disliking them with the Hdp r10. This combo is fantastic. Insert all hyperbole possible about sound! I switched back to my midrange CIEMs and the difference was staggering. Bass extension, no comparison. Detail levels, soundstaging, realism and that musicality that keeps you listening, all no comparison. Isolation is also very good, better than my other acrylics.

Very happy with these! I imagine most people would be ecstatic with these. Unless you love warm. The bite and slam of these is addictive. Well done Hidition.

Thanks for the confirmation smithy, I was starting to wonder if I was all alone in my assessment or if my cables were making a difference given the constant cable changes from hidition.

I am really enjoying the x5. Too bad we are on opposite sides of the planet as I would love to compare it to your r10.
post #272 of 511

Glad to read your satisfaction, smithyone1l.

Can you tell us more about Hdp r10's UI (Is it too slow, or is it acceptable?), its pop sound?

Do you use it outside or at home?


Edited by Pondu - 2/20/14 at 4:08pm
post #273 of 511
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Glad to read your satisfaction, smithyone1l.
Can you tell us more about Hdp r10's UI (Is it too slow, or is it acceptable?), its pop sound?
Do you use it outside or at home?

UI is a tad slow and unresponsive versus my galaxy note 2, but not irritatingly so for me. Pop sound is present when it is idle and then clicks in and when you finish an album and it powers down. I avoid this by having repeat on and plugging my earphones in after the pop would kick in. Hasn't overly bothered me.

It's strange because despite being a brick, I love it. I even use it at the gym. I wouldn't run with it, but on a cross trainer it's fine. Generally my use is at work and at home, but I love tunes whilst working out and on the go. The control of bass from the hdp r10 is awesome. I left it at home and was using my note 2 today and it was clearly inferior and didn't give the impact of the r10. There is something greater than the sum of its parts about the hdp r10 and nt6 pro.

Battery life isn't what I had hoped. I don't get the 12 hours stated by others, more like 6-8 hours and it seems to drain even when off....not sure whether it has a battery issue. I hope not!
Edited by smithyone1l - 2/21/14 at 3:59am
post #274 of 511
I find that my NT6 pros drain my batteries faster than my other headphones. They seem to be power hungry.
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Yeah, I feel that. They are definitely far less sensitive than other IEMs I've used like the Se535s or my Mages.

However, they also produce far better bass at low volume and when you turn them up the rumble is immense.
post #276 of 511
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I find that my NT6 pros drain my batteries faster than my other headphones. They seem to be power hungry.

 

 

They're very low impedance, so this should not be surprising.

post #277 of 511
Shouldn't it be the other way round?

E.g.: Sensitivity on the NT6 is 107.3db/mW @ 27 ohm
comparing to a IEM with the same impedance like Jh13p (116db/mW @ 27 ohm), making the NT6 sounds half as loud as the JH13 @1mW.
Resulting: the NT6 needs almost 8x Power to make them sound as loud as the JH13's → NT6 needs ~8mW to reach 116db, JH13 only 1mW for 116db.
post #278 of 511

I had no idea how good this NT6pro was until I paired it with the X5. I knew it was awesome, but not this awesome. There is just something magical about this pairing. Even my desktop unit doesn't make the NT6pro sound like this. I just cannot stop listening to the combo. It will be very hard when I have to send the X5 tour unit to the next person in the tour knowing that I cannot get one for at least a month.

 

I might have to pre-order from B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1032833-REG/fiio_x_5_portable_high_resolution_music.html

post #279 of 511

For anyone that is interested, my X5 review is now up:

http://www.head-fi.org/products/fiio-x5-high-res-portable-music-player/reviews/10579

 

My focus was on sound quality vs. my other DAPs and various headphone and amp pairings. I even added some numbers for perspective.

 

The review however, was mainly based on the NT6pro as the best pairing.

post #280 of 511

For those who have heard the JH16 FP, how would you rate the clarity and also the bass quantity vs the NT6 Pro on a scale of 1 to 10?

Reading the reviews my impression is that nt6p clarity is 10 and jh16 is maybe a 7, and bass quantity jh16 is 10 and nt6p is 7 but adapts more to the music. Does this sound about right?

Thank you.


Edited by sithjedi333 - 4/12/14 at 6:18pm
post #281 of 511

I just posted this in the DX90 impressions forum. Since this was based on listening with my NT6pro, I thought I should repost it here. I still cannot chose one over the other so I am sure that I am keeping both as excellent pairing options with the NT6pro that have different signatures.

 

 

So I just got my DX90 and did a quick comparison to my X5. All I can say is wow for both. I think that I would be happy with either, but they are different enough that I will be happy with both. Here are some quick impressions:

 

  • Soundstage: I feel like the DX90 is bigger and the X5 is a little more intimate. The DX90 feels airy like it is in a concert hall while the X5 has a very black background, more like a studio recording with everyone in a different sound booth. Neither is superior, just different signatures.
  • Volume: I feel like I need to turn the DX90 up to get to the intimate “in the living room” soundstage which it does effortlessly and without getting shouty at higher volumes. For my NT6pro CIEMs I have the DX90 comfortably at high gain at 170, which would have killed me on my DX50. On the other hand, I do not have to turn up the X5 nearly as much to get to my preferred intimate soundstage.  However, the X5 can get brighter and shouty when turned up to higher volumes depending on the song. Both work well and sound great, so neither is superior, just different.
  • Texture: After turning up the volume to get to the appropriate intimate soundstage for my listening preference, I am all about texture. They both excel in layering texture that I couldn’t even hear before on a portable source. I thought this was restricted to my balanced Mjolnir/LCD2 setup, but no longer. Both not only express the texture that is front and center, but separate individual textures from each sound source are well represented as well. Here there is a difference. While I hear the textures equally with both, the X5 allows me to really feel them with its more intimate presentation. The DX90 sounds great, but the sounds feel further away, not hitting me in the chest. I’m not saying that the X5 takes a win here for everyone as the DX90 is more euphoric which is very compelling as well.
  • Signature: While both are very neutral signatures, the X5 excels at intimacy, black background, and texture that you can feel as well as hear. Where the DX90 excels is in opening up the soundstage and creating a very euphoric listening environment.
  • Detail: Both are equally great at generating detail but do it differently. X5 detail is more in your face and supported by a very black background while the DX90 seems to layer it very naturally. With the DX50, sounds got in the way of each other and covered up if behind each other in the same blob. This is not the case with the DX90 where you can distinctly hear two different guitarists in the same area.
  • Power: While I would not use an external amp with either, the X5 feels more powerful and like it has more reserves to support dynamics. The DX90 eliminates the clipping problem that the DX50 had with dynamic songs, but doesn’t sound as full and ampy as the X5. The X5 bass and other big sounds come full on, full size, and natural where the DX90 is a little less full and maybe a little tinny (without clipping) at times. That is not to say that the DX90 doesn’t have slam – it does – but the X5 outclasses it here for those that insist on stacking for power.

 

Just a few initial thoughts, but remember there has been zero DAP nor Brain burn in so my opinion may change latter. Now it is time for me to disappear like everyone else that got theirs and just enjoy. :L3000: 

post #282 of 511

Thanks a lot Barra, hope you'll post more impressions here later.

post #283 of 511
What types of music is the NT6 Pro most suited to?
post #284 of 511
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post
 

I just posted this in the DX90 impressions forum. Since this was based on listening with my NT6pro, I thought I should repost it here. I still cannot chose one over the other so I am sure that I am keeping both as excellent pairing options with the NT6pro that have different signatures.

 

 

So I just got my DX90 and did a quick comparison to my X5. All I can say is wow for both. I think that I would be happy with either, but they are different enough that I will be happy with both. Here are some quick impressions:

 

  • Soundstage: I feel like the DX90 is bigger and the X5 is a little more intimate. The DX90 feels airy like it is in a concert hall while the X5 has a very black background, more like a studio recording with everyone in a different sound booth. Neither is superior, just different signatures.
  • Volume: I feel like I need to turn the DX90 up to get to the intimate “in the living room” soundstage which it does effortlessly and without getting shouty at higher volumes. For my NT6pro CIEMs I have the DX90 comfortably at high gain at 170, which would have killed me on my DX50. On the other hand, I do not have to turn up the X5 nearly as much to get to my preferred intimate soundstage.  However, the X5 can get brighter and shouty when turned up to higher volumes depending on the song. Both work well and sound great, so neither is superior, just different.
  • Texture: After turning up the volume to get to the appropriate intimate soundstage for my listening preference, I am all about texture. They both excel in layering texture that I couldn’t even hear before on a portable source. I thought this was restricted to my balanced Mjolnir/LCD2 setup, but no longer. Both not only express the texture that is front and center, but separate individual textures from each sound source are well represented as well. Here there is a difference. While I hear the textures equally with both, the X5 allows me to really feel them with its more intimate presentation. The DX90 sounds great, but the sounds feel further away, not hitting me in the chest. I’m not saying that the X5 takes a win here for everyone as the DX90 is more euphoric which is very compelling as well.
  • Signature: While both are very neutral signatures, the X5 excels at intimacy, black background, and texture that you can feel as well as hear. Where the DX90 excels is in opening up the soundstage and creating a very euphoric listening environment.
  • Detail: Both are equally great at generating detail but do it differently. X5 detail is more in your face and supported by a very black background while the DX90 seems to layer it very naturally. With the DX50, sounds got in the way of each other and covered up if behind each other in the same blob. This is not the case with the DX90 where you can distinctly hear two different guitarists in the same area.
  • Power: While I would not use an external amp with either, the X5 feels more powerful and like it has more reserves to support dynamics. The DX90 eliminates the clipping problem that the DX50 had with dynamic songs, but doesn’t sound as full and ampy as the X5. The X5 bass and other big sounds come full on, full size, and natural where the DX90 is a little less full and maybe a little tinny (without clipping) at times. That is not to say that the DX90 doesn’t have slam – it does – but the X5 outclasses it here for those that insist on stacking for power.

 

Just a few initial thoughts, but remember there has been zero DAP nor Brain burn in so my opinion may change latter. Now it is time for me to disappear like everyone else that got theirs and just enjoy. :L3000: 

After a couple weeks of burn in, the DX90 and X5 are continuing to sound better, but re-reading my initial thoughts in comparison, I have to stand by them. They both make the NT6pro sound incredible and make it hard to believe that we are going to get more out of any of the more expensive DAPs. What is nice is that I have trouble choosing which DAP to use as they both sound different, and are fun to use. I'm glad I got both.

post #285 of 511

Comming from a guy who had own er4s, um miracle (dislike),beyerdynamic t1 

Im planning to purchase nt6 pro after reading alot of review,a/b about it............i was considering between 1plu2 and nt6 pro.......as far as i understand,the nt6pro extend better compared to 1plus2 in treble,about the same in bass(im a  treble-head).

my favourite iem was and still er4s eventhought i have the um miracle but um's sound-sig wasnt my cup of tea (too polite treble and warm,not so good @ mid's clarity).

I wound say beyer t1 is my best suited sound sig........stunning ss depth would be my 1st thing i love about this can,sparkle,extended treble within lush mid not by sacrificing its mid clarity,good bass quantity at high bass quality.

is the nt6pro is beyer t1 mini version?

 

sorry about my english :P


Edited by hotfever - 5/6/14 at 1:09am
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