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Beat Audio have an unmatched build quality (I used to own Cronus). Although Tralucent comes close with its new cables.

Thanks for information, when I need cable in future I know where to go wink.gif

post #107 of 396

I've a Heir 8.A. Now planning to get a second pair of CIEM. I'm debating between the new Hidition Tears 6/pro and JH13 pro FreqPhase. Btw, it seems Tears 6 Pro is warmer and better than the previous version.

 

I listen to mostly various forms of indie rock, some indie pop, some classic rock and some EDM. Can anyone suggest which one would be better for my musical taste: Hidition vs JH13 pro?

 

Btw, I'll be mostly listening to them on my daily NYC subway commute.

post #108 of 396

Update to my early impressions: After 10 more hours of listening, all weirdness is gone leaving nothing but goodness. The full sound spectrum blends effortlessly and naturally. The way I would describe the signature now is full fidelity. Although it is described as extended at both ends, I see it as capable of effortlessly playing the full spectrum while the competition is truncated sounding small. The music sounds as if it is coming from full sized humans in the same room with me rather than coming from shrunken humans the size of ants. In addition, all instruments and voices are scaled naturally and correctly and 3D sounding as if they are in the same room standing around me. The competition often puts the drummer or and the singer in another room down the hall with the door shut and in the worse case, the whole band. This is very close to the experience of listening to my large Maggies with all their planer goodness paired with dual M&K subwoofers through a dedicated Rotel 1000 watt amp.

 

As for brightness, I don't see how this is a bright CIEM - this was my biggest holdup in choosing the NT6 Pro after reading the reviews. It feels clear and natural and is in no way fatiguing. However, the rumble and definition in the bass notes are what call the most attention to itself as exceptional. Normally, bass this good covers up the detail rather than adding to the detail. In this case, I can clearly hear the different resonance characteristics coming from the singers voice, the bass guitar, the lead guitar, and a flat bass kick from the drummer. These are usually muddied up into a single bloated bass note.

 

Although the NT6 Pro makes every source sound its best, it definitely scales well through the lower tier sources. Going from the iPhone/iPod to the Sansa family (Clip+/Zip/Fuse) there is a clear improvement moving to a much clearer cleaner presentation that is much fuller and more resolving. Moving up to a Colorfly C3 / C&C BH2 combo, the presentation again becomes even cleaner clearer and more resolving with a bigger more dynamic sound and fuller bass note. I hate to say it, but there is likely to be a ibasso DX100 or R10 in my future. 

 

I am very happy with my choice and all my fears were for not. I don't like bright presentations as I find them irratating - I don't find the NT6 Pro bright or sibilant but rather well balanced and clear. I don't like dark presentations as I find them lacking in detail or bass bloated - the NT6 is the clearest most transparent thing I have heard yet. I usually don't like what is considered balanced as they are usually missing both ends of the sound spectrum taking me to a bright (lack of bass) or boring presentation - the NT6 Pro is very balanced but extended to include the full spectrum at both ends creating a very exciting presentation. I still want a SE 5-Way, but I feel it will be complementry rather than competitive in sound signature.

post #109 of 396
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

Update to my early impressions: After 10 more hours of listening, all weirdness is gone leaving nothing but goodness. The full sound spectrum blends effortlessly and naturally. The way I would describe the signature now is full fidelity. Although it is described as extended at both ends, I see it as capable of effortlessly playing the full spectrum while the competition is truncated sounding small. The music sounds as if it is coming from full sized humans in the same room with me rather than coming from shrunken humans the size of ants. In addition, all instruments and voices are scaled naturally and correctly and 3D sounding as if they are in the same room standing around me. The competition often puts the drummer or and the singer in another room down the hall with the door shut and in the worse case, the whole band. This is very close to the experience of listening to my large Maggies with all their planer goodness paired with dual M&K subwoofers through a dedicated Rotel 1000 watt amp.

 

As for brightness, I don't see how this is a bright CIEM - this was my biggest holdup in choosing the NT6 Pro after reading the reviews. It feels clear and natural and is in no way fatiguing. However, the rumble and definition in the bass notes are what call the most attention to itself as exceptional. Normally, bass this good covers up the detail rather than adding to the detail. In this case, I can clearly hear the different resonance characteristics coming from the singers voice, the bass guitar, the lead guitar, and a flat bass kick from the drummer. These are usually muddied up into a single bloated bass note.

 

Although the NT6 Pro makes every source sound its best, it definitely scales well through the lower tier sources. Going from the iPhone/iPod to the Sansa family (Clip+/Zip/Fuse) there is a clear improvement moving to a much clearer cleaner presentation that is much fuller and more resolving. Moving up to a Colorfly C3 / C&C BH2 combo, the presentation again becomes even cleaner clearer and more resolving with a bigger more dynamic sound and fuller bass note. I hate to say it, but there is likely to be a ibasso DX100 or R10 in my future. 

 

I am very happy with my choice and all my fears were for not. I don't like bright presentations as I find them irratating - I don't find the NT6 Pro bright or sibilant but rather well balanced and clear. I don't like dark presentations as I find them lacking in detail or bass bloated - the NT6 is the clearest most transparent thing I have heard yet. I usually don't like what is considered balanced as they are usually missing both ends of the sound spectrum taking me to a bright (lack of bass) or boring presentation - the NT6 Pro is very balanced but extended to include the full spectrum at both ends creating a very exciting presentation. I still want a SE 5-Way, but I feel it will be complementry rather than competitive in sound signature.

Wonderful news Barra. However you made my decision harder now about which ciem to choose biggrin.gif

post #110 of 396

Get all of them, obviously

post #111 of 396
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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

Get all of them, obviously


Obviously. So I will not be the only one to do so.

post #112 of 396
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Barra View Post

Update to my early impressions: After 10 more hours of listening, all weirdness is gone leaving nothing but goodness. The full sound spectrum blends effortlessly and naturally. The way I would describe the signature now is full fidelity. Although it is described as extended at both ends, I see it as capable of effortlessly playing the full spectrum while the competition is truncated sounding small. The music sounds as if it is coming from full sized humans in the same room with me rather than coming from shrunken humans the size of ants. In addition, all instruments and voices are scaled naturally and correctly and 3D sounding as if they are in the same room standing around me. The competition often puts the drummer or and the singer in another room down the hall with the door shut and in the worse case, the whole band. This is very close to the experience of listening to my large Maggies with all their planer goodness paired with dual M&K subwoofers through a dedicated Rotel 1000 watt amp.

 

As for brightness, I don't see how this is a bright CIEM - this was my biggest holdup in choosing the NT6 Pro after reading the reviews. It feels clear and natural and is in no way fatiguing. However, the rumble and definition in the bass notes are what call the most attention to itself as exceptional. Normally, bass this good covers up the detail rather than adding to the detail. In this case, I can clearly hear the different resonance characteristics coming from the singers voice, the bass guitar, the lead guitar, and a flat bass kick from the drummer. These are usually muddied up into a single bloated bass note.

 

Although the NT6 Pro makes every source sound its best, it definitely scales well through the lower tier sources. Going from the iPhone/iPod to the Sansa family (Clip+/Zip/Fuse) there is a clear improvement moving to a much clearer cleaner presentation that is much fuller and more resolving. Moving up to a Colorfly C3 / C&C BH2 combo, the presentation again becomes even cleaner clearer and more resolving with a bigger more dynamic sound and fuller bass note. I hate to say it, but there is likely to be a ibasso DX100 or R10 in my future. 

 

I am very happy with my choice and all my fears were for not. I don't like bright presentations as I find them irratating - I don't find the NT6 Pro bright or sibilant but rather well balanced and clear. I don't like dark presentations as I find them lacking in detail or bass bloated - the NT6 is the clearest most transparent thing I have heard yet. I usually don't like what is considered balanced as they are usually missing both ends of the sound spectrum taking me to a bright (lack of bass) or boring presentation - the NT6 Pro is very balanced but extended to include the full spectrum at both ends creating a very exciting presentation. I still want a SE 5-Way, but I feel it will be complementry rather than competitive in sound signature.

 

Thank you for your excellent post, it is an exceptional CIEM.  Reading your last paragraph, I am not 100% sure you will prefer the SE5 over the NT-6 pro, but it is a compliment for sure.

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I like the analytical talents of NT6 pro but I am afraid if it is too bright for me. Barra said it is not bright. Joe mentioned they are on the brighter side of the spectrum. So these ones are still analytical sounding ciems with a little bit musicality in them? I think they would fit my preferences more than SE5 way because I never liked bass so much but the treble on the NT6 pro can be tiring that kinda scares me.

 

This sickness is killing me, I just can't decide. One day I should get drunk and buy one of the ciems I am currently interested so it will be done and done. I think that's the only way.

 

One of my friends told me, if you can't decide between 2 items, just flip a coin. When it is in the air you suddenly wishes for the side you want to see on the coin but now I know this it won't be fair and won't make my decision easier redface.gif

 

Yeah I am on holidays it is 03.14 am in here and I am thinking about ciems... Loving and enjoying music is bless and curse at the same time I guess.

post #114 of 396
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I like the analytical talents of NT6 pro but I am afraid if it is too bright for me. Barra said it is not bright. Joe mentioned they are on the brighter side of the spectrum. So these ones are still analytical sounding ciems with a little bit musicality in them? I think they would fit my preferences more than SE5 way because I never liked bass so much but the treble on the NT6 pro can be tiring that kinda scares me.

 

This sickness is killing me, I just can't decide. One day I should get drunk and buy one of the ciems I am currently interested so it will be done and done. I think that's the only way.

 

One of my friends told me, if you can't decide between 2 items, just flip a coin. When it is in the air you suddenly wishes for the side you want to see on the coin but now I know this it won't be fair and won't make my decision easier redface.gif

 

Yeah I am on holidays it is 03.14 am in here and I am thinking about ciems... Loving and enjoying music is bless and curse at the same time I guess.


If you like detailed yet musical, SE5 is the way to go. Unless you like very wide soundstage then no. At this level of performance, I do not think you can be really disapointed.

post #115 of 396
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Originally Posted by AmberOzL View Post

I like the analytical talents of NT6 pro but I am afraid if it is too bright for me. Barra said it is not bright. Joe mentioned they are on the brighter side of the spectrum. So these ones are still analytical sounding ciems with a little bit musicality in them? I think they would fit my preferences more than SE5 way because I never liked bass so much but the treble on the NT6 pro can be tiring that kinda scares me.

This sickness is killing me, I just can't decide. One day I should get drunk and buy one of the ciems I am currently interested so it will be done and done. I think that's the only way.

One of my friends told me, if you can't decide between 2 items, just flip a coin. When it is in the air you suddenly wishes for the side you want to see on the coin but now I know this it won't be fair and won't make my decision easier redface.gif


Yeah I am on holidays it is 03.14 am in here and I am thinking about ciems... Loving and enjoying music is bless and curse at the same time I guess.

Well the nt6 pro is alot cheaper!
post #116 of 396
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If you like detailed yet musical, SE5 is the way to go. Unless you like very wide soundstage then no. At this level of performance, I do not think you can be really disapointed.

 

Mim, soundstage is one of the most important things for me. Is it that bad on SE5way or it is just, it could be better at this price point?

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Well the nt6 pro is alot cheaper!

Did you already order yours?

post #117 of 396
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Mim, soundstage is one of the most important things for me. Is it that bad on SE5way or it is just, it could be better at this price point?

You understood me COMPLETELY WRONG :) The soundstage on the SE5 is ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE HEARD. To me soundstage is measured based on several factors:

  • Where you are positioned (in the middle of the music vs facing the music etc.)
  • How wide
  • How deep
  • Quality / realism of placement

 

On the SE5, depth and and realism / quality of placement are just crazy good, but the sound stage is not very wide. This is not necessarily good or bad. Some people prefer a smaller scene...

post #118 of 396
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You understood me COMPLETELY WRONG :) The soundstage on the SE5 is ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE HEARD. To me soundstage is measured based on several factors:

  • Where you are positioned (in the middle of the music vs facing the music etc.)
  • How wide
  • How deep
  • Quality / realism of placement

 

On the SE5, depth and and realism / quality of placement are just crazy good, but the sound stage is not very wide. This is not necessarily good or bad. Some people prefer a smaller scene...

Ops, sorry man my bad, sometimes English can be a problem for me happy_face1.gif So SE5way puts you in the middle of the music or it is making you face the music? I honestly prefer feeling like being in the middle of the music.

post #119 of 396
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Ops, sorry man my bad, sometimes English can be a problem for me happy_face1.gif So SE5way puts you in the middle of the music or it is making you face the music? I honestly prefer feeling like being in the middle of the music.


I would say more in the middle. The only iem I own that gets close to realistic soundstage (which is face to the music like in a concert) is the 1Plus2. But I also like being in the middle too :)

post #120 of 396
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


I would say more in the middle. The only iem I own that gets close to realistic soundstage (which is face to the music like in a concert) is the 1Plus2. But I also like being in the middle too :)

Any suggestions for being in the middle ciem?

 

Maybe NT6 pro can do that? If AJ or other users can shed some light about the soundstage type I would appreciate it.

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