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post #31 of 91

They must all leave their brightness at atrocious levels. Never had a single issue with my iPhone 4. Which only loses maybe...50 percent battery during a 9 hour shift in which it sees use fairly regularly.

 

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The iPhone 4's battery would get to early afternoon, then need a recharge. It's the same with my wife & her sisters, an ALL my coworkers using iPhone 4's or 4S's. The battery on the iPhone is horrid.
Now, on my Lumia 900, it lasts all day. The family and coworkers are actually jealous. Well, the RAZR MAXX owners still say my battery sux!!! Lol!!! tongue.gif

 

Makes sense, considering the new dock is all digital.

 

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I went from iPhone 4 to the Lumia 900 and can agree that the battery is better on the Lumia 900. 

 

What I'm really hoping for is that on the Lumia 920 you can do an audio out through the micro USB.  That's about the only feature I miss from my iPhone.

 

I'm also interested to see if Fostex or ALO (or others) come out with any new DACs for iPhone 5 but I'm pretty sure I read that with the new doc connector you can still use the HPP1 or AlgoRythm Solo. 

post #32 of 91
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They must all leave their brightness at atrocious levels. Never had a single issue with my iPhone 4. Which only loses maybe...50 percent battery during a 9 hour shift in which it sees use fairly regularly.


Makes sense, considering the new dock is all digital.
No, none of them have the brightness set to "atrocious" levels. They just "use" their phones. I guess you don't use yours as frequently,...so it's mostly on standby.

I do hope the battery, at least, on the iPhone lives up to OR surprises us all by having mega-life. A welcome surprise IMO.

I'll say this, that I'm hoping the iPhone 5 is much better than we're all expecting. If it is, I may consider it over the Lumia 920. Right now it's not proving itself as a worthy upgrade - more like a functionally lateral move. Though, in all honestly, only an iDevice does multimedia correctly. NO OTHER PHONE DOES!!!
Edited by tds101 - 9/14/12 at 11:21am
post #33 of 91
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Heh, the apple fonbois' are starting to arrive. The iPhone 5 is not innovative, and for the last & this generation apple has been playing catchup. The camera is no longer considered #1, and their processor is not the fastest when it comes to performance.
And, the Nokia phones aren't "niche" phones, and the Lumia 900 camera topps the iPhones that I've owned. The new Lumia 920 is actually considered innovative - hardware AND software wise.
As for ease of use, it's got that going for it. But, it's also a stagnant OS, it's easy to use because it never changes. Well, those "incremental innovations" count, right?!?!?! Apple steals all the features it'd been missing, then claims it as new. And lets face it, it's become a boring device in general.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot. iOS and the iPhone are no longer #1. And were never #1 world wide.
An iPhone is actually more status symbol than function. I personally love how iTunes handles my media when it comes to putting it on or taking it off of my iDevices. I actually enjoy the sq these toys produce. No WAY will I blindly claim it's as good as the apple keynote claimed. Especially since the candy-colored hues have been pulled out of the hat. Apple has finally "jumped the shark", and it's now only a matter of time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

Their camera was never number one, their camera matched up and were on hand with Samsung and other company flagships with a tied rating on most sites for both the 4 and 4S. Megapixels do not equal quality. The Nokia ones now do have better ones so every other brand is now number 2 as of right now.

 

Incremental? You are talking about last generation as well so here is a few benchmark pics of last gen performance ON LAUNCH as current gen one is not yet released.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

SunSpider Javascript Benchmark 0.9.1 - Stock Browser

 

Rightware BrowserMark

 

 

GLBenchmark 2.1 - Egypt - Offscreen

GLBenchmark 2.1 - Pro - Offscreen

 

 

 

Keep in mind that the iPhone 4S is 800MHz A5 or ARM A9 as well as the others.

 

So how does it do this? Through some of the most innovative practices they employ. The practices they are using may not be theirs and have already been founded by other companies but they are the ones using it and thus they are using innovative measures. What are these innovative measures? Innovation is not anything big. look it up, it can be incremental if it has to be , it is still called innovation.

 

They have a specific way of doing their business that they have learned and perfected in their mind from past failures decades ago. That 3rd party can not and will not achieve their dreams. They have to take it into their own hands if they want something and from personal experience and as we can see, it works.

 

They get specific OEM's by the force of their power to build secret and well spec'd and measured equipment on boards and using components that have been tested to work well. Yes as many others note, they are more or less the "same" hardware but how it is implemented and the care it took to implement is differnent. As we can see with OEM PC's , the quality of implementation and hardware quality check on sub $500 PC's are nowhere near, this is what I mean. Through using specific parts that DIRECTLY match up to their closed OS that will not accept anything else, they can get the most performance out of the device using only parts and specifically made and implemented components.

 

At the next level, with their OS, they made one that runs well. One probelm of Android is that it was made too fast. IT was supposed to be a keyboard OS back when it started but then came the iPhone. For reasons I am not sure of, multi touch features were added hapzardly and thus are not rendered in real time priority on Android as opposed to iOs and a suite of other software caused performance hogs. Think of Firefox's memory leak. Inefficiency basically. As Android is so open, so does it creates a further gap in efficency. The model that many apps run on in Android and some in iOS is DVM, Dalvik. DVM is easy to mass eject onto many different devices but it does this without being as efficent as JVM(java) which needs more specific conditions that Android can't give on all their phones as Android is availble to anyone. This is accounted towards Google and can be seen as Apple's win as Apple's way works and so does Android and Googles. I was mearley pointing out that Microsoft and Google themselves were the ones that choose to use such a 3rd party reliant system as oppose to Apple's closed one. We keep hearing tech lovers crying out about little 3rd party love and we see that Apple largely doesn't care much. Why? Because the numbers they are getting shows that their system works. A centralized OS that can use system resources at the most efficent level as well as allowing for older applications as they use the same baseline to take advantage of next gen hardware performance boost WITHOUT any new code or hardships on their part.

 

This is why as the benchmarks show, an 800MHz A9 kicks 1.2GHz A9's ass's. Not that the 800MHz A9 is faster than a faster clocked exact same A9, but because of the SoC it is on. Most ARM A9's or ARM's in the market or either unmodified or slightly modified. Slightly modified in Apple and most others causes and heavily modified in Qualcomm's case. Depending on how they modify it and what type of implementation to put on the SoC delivers very different results in performance.

 

That is performance innovation, in the 4S they have done many things, with a second generation Audience chip on a specific custom platform they designed, they were able to use their system to cancel out sound. Big? Not really, not innovational but none others have done it so well on a massive scale.Massive scale is always the key word and done well as well. Many of the things I have mentioned have been used before but the differnce was that they failed due to messing up somewhere, you mess up somewhere on the device in any aspect and it's over. Literally it needs to be perfrect.

 

 

Basically I am tired of typing, look at the 4S, it is thin. And packs these feautures, yes the RAZR is thinner in a sense but it has many bad con's against it due to how thin it is such as a slow down in speed as the CPU downclocks as it gets too hot and other things like battery. They this time around have placed the sensors along with the screen into the same installation and what not and other things to make it even thinner.

 

I am even more tired now. They didn't change their winning formula, they further improved it. However this formula doesn't work too long as Nintendo has shown us. So let's await the future.

post #34 of 91

Post Steve Jobs, apple release is like it's more about continued refinement than it is about radical differences

post #35 of 91
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Post Steve Jobs, apple release is like it's more about continued refinement than it is about radical differences

Remember that the iPhone 5 was actually the last project Jobs himself worked on. So no, it's not post Jobs yet. He was actually much into the iPhone 5.

post #36 of 91

I woke up at 5am today (EST) and pre-ordered with Rogers here in Canada. I'm in the 500s for the country...so looks like I'll be getting mine next Friday. smile.gif

 

Can't wait! My iPhone 4 is great, but the bigger screen was plenty enough for me to justify this purchase.

post #37 of 91
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I woke up at 5am today (EST) and pre-ordered with Rogers here in Canada. I'm in the 500s for the country...so looks like I'll be getting mine next Friday. smile.gif

 

Can't wait! My iPhone 4 is great, but the bigger screen was plenty enough for me to justify this purchase.

 

 

Bigger screen ???

 

They look like giraffe neck....tall slim...little more width would have been good

post #38 of 91
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Bigger screen ???

 

They look like giraffe neck....tall slim...little more width would have been good

16x9 screen ratio...That's standard. 4" compared to 3.5". I don't want it wider...not ergonomic. That's my issue with the Galaxy...too wide.

post #39 of 91
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Wanted to pre-order iPhone 5 but I just can't justify the $450 upgrade. My 4S is still running like a champ. I've never had to charge the battery before my nightly docking. 

To all the non believers that say apple is only improving on its products I'd say that THREE world changing advancements in the past few years is quite a feat. Not to mention everything that went into those unbelievable products. I think people just expect apple to change the world, again, with every new product. You HATERS just need to sit back a buckle your seat belts because apple is just getting warmed up in my opinion.  

post #40 of 91
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Wanted to pre-order iPhone 5 but I just can't justify the $450 upgrade. My 4S is still running like a champ. I've never had to charge the battery before my nightly docking. 

To all the non believers that say apple is only improving on its products I'd say that THREE world changing advancements in the past few years is quite a feat. Not to mention everything that went into those unbelievable products. I think people just expect apple to change the world, again, with every new product. You HATERS just need to sit back a buckle your seat belts because apple is just getting warmed up in my opinion.  

I held off the 4S upgrade when my plan was due...I knew the 5 was Jobs' last product to work on and I really wanted it (along with the bigger screen). Now I'm sitting tight waiting on the new 27" iMacs to be released. popcorn.gif

post #41 of 91
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I held off the 4S upgrade when my plan was due...I knew the 5 was Jobs' last product to work on and I really wanted it (along with the bigger screen). Now I'm sitting tight waiting on the new 27" iMacs to be released. popcorn.gif

I'm on the 27" iMac right now. What's gonna be different on the new one?

post #42 of 91
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I'm on the 27" iMac right now. What's gonna be different on the new one?

Not sure, but the existing line-ups been out for over 500 days (avg. release is like 280 days). Likely just a CPU upgrade with more RAM and USB 3.0. I seriously doubt a Retna display at these sizes.

post #43 of 91

I'm using my girlfriend's upgrade to get my iPhone 5 for $200. She would never pay 200 bucks for a new phone so she gets my iPhone 4 and I get a 5. :D

 

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Originally Posted by Rawdawg3234 View Post

Wanted to pre-order iPhone 5 but I just can't justify the $450 upgrade. My 4S is still running like a champ. I've never had to charge the battery before my nightly docking. 

To all the non believers that say apple is only improving on its products I'd say that THREE world changing advancements in the past few years is quite a feat. Not to mention everything that went into those unbelievable products. I think people just expect apple to change the world, again, with every new product. You HATERS just need to sit back a buckle your seat belts because apple is just getting warmed up in my opinion.  

post #44 of 91
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Not sure, but the existing line-ups been out for over 500 days (avg. release is like 280 days). Likely just a CPU upgrade with more RAM and USB 3.0. I seriously doubt a Retna display at these sizes.

Well I love this computer and the minimalistic look of it. Only problem is it gets Hot. I mean really Hot. It's a common occurrence and nothing to worry about but it gave me a scare the first time it happened. Seems to be the worst when playing video games. Diablo 3 had this thing nearly smoking.

post #45 of 91

Yeah, probably all that and maybe a slight redesign. I hope we see more versatile upgrades in the 21" models. Mainly video.

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Not sure, but the existing line-ups been out for over 500 days (avg. release is like 280 days). Likely just a CPU upgrade with more RAM and USB 3.0. I seriously doubt a Retna display at these sizes.

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