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post #916 of 3282
I like the Annie over everything that isn't the D7000. Both the HE-4 and HE-400 lack the open soundstage, air, and tonal balance. Both are harsher in the treble, and mid recessed next to the Annie.
post #917 of 3282

So I have decided to put my Annies up for sale. On that Canadian audio selling site. If interested please pm for ad address as I don't want to break any head-fi rules.

The comfort is getting to me. The clamp on my jaw bone is killing me! I finally was growing to adore the sound on all music too. 

 

I am really hoping the HE400s I have on order is more comfortable for me personally. I tested my DT990pros again this morning and that fit just welcomed me back like a friend. I wanted to step up to more mids and warmer sound but the Annies aren't it for me as much as I use headphones having a headache at the end of every day was to much for me.

 

So I guess I am the first to fail you all. beyersmile.png


Edited by Hailin - 1/26/13 at 9:27am
post #918 of 3282

So no shouty lower mids on he 65th? With the flat pads, that's the one thing i'm worried about. You can't use K601 flat pads on the Q701. Sounds terrible.

Is any range in the mids more forward than the Q701? For me the forwardness of the mids are perfect. To my ears the K601's mids are much more forward. I think in the upper mids and lower treble though.

 

It'll probably be like the Q701 and K702 and measure the same despite sounding different biggrin.gif

 

BTW one idea I had was using the K601 inner grills on the Q701 and using the flat K601 pads. Maybe this will make he mids not so forward with K601 pads.

It's strange but K601 pads on he Q701 give you much less bass.

post #919 of 3282

Am I the only one who prefers the original K701 over the K702 Anniversary Edition?

 

To me, they sound very different... the K702 Anniversary Edition is warmer and lacks the 'sparkle' in the highs that I love about the K701.

 

As for comfort, the memory foam pads are definitely nice, but I never had comfort issues with the K701. The bumps didn't bother me at all, so the upgrade with the K702 Anniversary Edition was marginal.

 

Well, I'm definitely keeping the K702 Anniversary Edition because 'special edition!!' but... I'm just a little disappointed.

post #920 of 3282
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Originally Posted by YoJinBro View Post

Am I the only one who prefers the original K701 over the K702 Anniversary Edition?

 

To me, they sound very different... the K702 Anniversary Edition is warmer and lacks the 'sparkle' in the highs that I love about the K701.

 

As for comfort, the memory foam pads are definitely nice, but I never had comfort issues with the K701. The bumps didn't bother me at all, so the upgrade with the K702 Anniversary Edition was marginal.

 

Well, I'm definitely keeping the K702 Anniversary Edition because 'special edition!!' but... I'm just a little disappointed.

 

This is an unfortunate pattern of head-fi, more than other audio sites. When a new product is released, many people are excited about it, buy it and say super positive things. When other people buy in, they get disappointed. 

post #921 of 3282
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Originally Posted by YoJinBro View Post

To me, they sound very different... the K702 Anniversary Edition is warmer and lacks the 'sparkle' in the highs that I love about the K701.

 

As for comfort, the memory foam pads are definitely nice, but I never had comfort issues with the K701. The bumps didn't bother me at all, so the upgrade with the K702 Anniversary Edition was marginal.

 

I'm just a little disappointed.

 

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This is an unfortunate pattern of head-fi, more than other audio sites. When a new product is released, many people are excited about it, buy it and say super positive things. When other people buy in, they get disappointed. 

 

Well the sound of annies is clearly described in this thread. Many times. For me the annies are everything I wanted the Q701s to be. Comfortable, warm, balanced and versatile. I still don't understand people who get these if they are happy how their Q/K 70Xs sound. People who read this thread should be familiar with the fact that annies sound warmer and can lack the "sparkle" that K701s have. Annies are great and people should be excited about them.

 

Edit: For me there seems to be almost as much blaming people of hyperbole than the actual hyperbole itself.


Edited by Salvatore - 1/26/13 at 2:13pm
post #922 of 3282
People think the K701 is better? Lol, wow.

Sure, if you love plastic mids, harsh, dry, purely analytical sound. To get them to sound anywhere close to the Annie, you'd have to invest in some truly warm devices.

Sorry, but the K701 is one of the worst purchases I ever made on Head-fi in terms of music enjoyment.

The Annie and the K701 aren't even in the same bracket, as far as I'm concerned.

Different strokes for different folks.

The K701 is for people who wanna analyze sound. The Annie is for those who wanna enjoy it.
post #923 of 3282
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People think the K701 is better? Lol, wow.

Sure, if you love plastic mids, harsh, dry, purely analytical sound. To get them to sound anywhere close to the Annie, you'd have to invest in some truly warm devices.

Sorry, but the K701 is one of the worst purchases I ever made on Head-fi in terms of music enjoyment.

The Annie and the K701 aren't even in the same bracket, as far as I'm concerned.

Different strokes for different folks.

The K701 is for people who wanna analyze sound. The Annie is for those who wanna enjoy it.

 

We all have our own preferences and there is nothing strange that people prefer certain headphones above others, no matter what other people think. I for instance like HD650 more than LCD2. Kill me.

 

I don't really understand why some people are saying that k701 has "plasticky mids". What exactly is meant by that? And how can anything be "plasticky" and "harsh" at the same time? Enlighten me.

post #924 of 3282
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The K701 is for people who wanna analyze sound. The Annie is for those who wanna enjoy it.

 

post #925 of 3282
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Very true, lol. biggrin.gif

I prefer the Q701 which was better balanced, and enjoyable, even for a neutral-ish can tipping on slight warmth.

Keep in mind, I'm referring to the old, 7 bump K701. No idea what the newer ones sound like. The old one was definitely subpar vs the Q701 and now the Annie.

The old K701 has the worst upper mids I have ever heard. It just stuck out like a sore thumb. It was fatiguing to hell.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 3:35pm
post #926 of 3282
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Very true, lol. biggrin.gif

I prefer the Q701 which was better balanced, and enjoyable, even for a neutral-ish can tipping on slight warmth.

Keep in mind, I'm referring to the old, 7 bump K701. No idea what the newer ones sound like. The old one was definitely subpar vs the Q701 and now the Annie.

 

What's funny is that I don't even think the K701 is that neutral (but close), but I haven't heard one in maybe 2 years I think.

I'm perfectly ok with the warmth of the Q701 so I don't need any more. I'd still like to hear the 65th eventually. The q701's treble quantity is PERFECT for me. Any less and it might bother me.

I imagine the 65th has less treble.

 

I heard the weird plasticy resonance on a very old K701, but it was when I was using it with a Yamaha receiver. Strangely I was comparing it to the HD-600 at the same time.

When I got the K702 it didn't have that plasticy sound. The plastic baffle on some of the K701's is actually different.

 

I like a neutral sound with some mild coloration. Q701 is OK. The HD-650 is my absolute limit in warmth and coloration. The D2000 has too much bass for me yet it's listed as "neutral" bass. Weird.

 

For amps I prefer them to be not warm at all. But yet I don't like the cold and analytical sound. You can not have that and still be very transparent and ruler flat it seems.

 

For anyone that cares, I once preferred the K601/K501 to the K701/702, but prefer the q701 to all of them. I only sold my K501 due to the Q701.

 

 

 

it seems though that i've yet found any open headphones with neutral/flat low bass, but I don't care. Q701 is fine.

 

Hopefully years from now (if the 65th is a success) they'll have another model that's similar. Maybe they will lie and not stop at 3000 units or whatever it was. 3000 sure doesn't seem like a heck of a lot! I probably won't be able

to afford the 65th for a loooong time.

 

I think only two headphones are in my love/hate list. K702 and HD-600. if I had to live with one it' probably be the K702 though. HD-600 just annoys me more than any other headphone. I like the 580 though, which is barely any different.


Edited by tdockweiler - 1/26/13 at 3:49pm
post #927 of 3282
Hmm, well the Annie is between the HD650 and Q701 in warmth and treble, so if you're okay with a midpoint, you'll like the Annie. I feel the treble to be similarkto the Q701 actually. Definite sparkle compared to the smoothness of the HD650. Its the mids and bass that are more like the HD650.
post #928 of 3282

MLE, do you have any experience with Stax in terms of gaming? I'm selling my Q701 in order to buy the Stax 202 and an amp.

post #929 of 3282
No, no experience with them. Always wanted them though.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 5:50pm
post #930 of 3282
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

 

 

Well the sound of annies is clearly described in this thread. Many times. For me the annies are everything I wanted the Q701s to be. Comfortable, warm, balanced and versatile. I still don't understand people who get these if they are happy how their Q/K 70Xs sound. People who read this thread should be familiar with the fact that annies sound warmer and can lack the "sparkle" that K701s have. Annies are great and people should be excited about them.

 

Edit: For me there seems to be almost as much blaming people of hyperbole than the actual hyperbole itself.


Hey hey hey -- I wasn't blaming anyone! Not at all! I made the decision to buy these because I love the K701, and I want the super special limited edition version!

No harm done by buying them -- I can listen to the K701 and look at the K702 at the same time! Double the fun!

 

Glad you like the K702 Anniversary Edition more; I just wanted to share my experience with them, show a 'on the other hand, this weirdo actually doesn't like them as much'.

 

I didn't want to start a flame war, I was just stating what my experience was like!

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

People think the K701 is better? Lol, wow.

Sure, if you love plastic mids, harsh, dry, purely analytical sound. To get them to sound anywhere close to the Annie, you'd have to invest in some truly warm devices.

Sorry, but the K701 is one of the worst purchases I ever made on Head-fi in terms of music enjoyment.

The Annie and the K701 aren't even in the same bracket, as far as I'm concerned.

Different strokes for different folks.

The K701 is for people who wanna analyze sound. The Annie is for those who wanna enjoy it.

 

Alright. Like you said, different strokes for different folks...

What if I enjoy the analytical sound? I must be doing something wrong.


Edited by YoJinBro - 1/26/13 at 8:05pm
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