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post #3016 of 3330
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

 

That yellow foam looks identical to what I found within Hifiman's pleather earpads, which was not really REAL memory foam, more like heat-activated foam.

 

I don't know what "real" memory foam is like.

I just know that when you press down on this stuff is takes awhile for it to come back to it's original shape.

You can compress it down to nothing and it will slowly expand back. It's definitely not hard at all.

 

I bet AKG could come up with an over-stuffed pad that had as much depth as the Q701 pads when compressed.

They could maybe use a combination of different types of foams inside.

 

I want an HD-650 killer!!

 

Maybe AKG could experiment with the harder memory foam that doesn't compress as much.

Some memory foam seems to turn into a brick during winter. I wonder if the Annie pads will? Doubt it.

post #3017 of 3330

Since I don't own any AKG's, I can't say for sure, but dampening vents (or holes) on the underside of a pad (i.e. Beyerdynamic velour pads) help tame the treble significantly (jergpads for the HE-400 and HE-500 for example). I'm not sure if the vents you are referring to are what I am picturing, but exposing the foam on the driver side of the pad should decrease treble, I would think.

post #3018 of 3330
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

The main reasons I don't love the Annie is that it's darker and less airy than even my HD-650. Yet it's sound is too forward in some areas like the low mids (K601 pads cause the same thing to occur, but without adding warmth). If the K712 pushed things back a tad I might prefer that sound. I don't know for sure if the reason I dislike the Annie is due to it's upper mids like I originally thought.

 

I wonder if the K712 is darker and bassier than the HD-650? BTW I think the Annie might have been even warmer/darker than my HD-650!

 

 

Well, if the Anniversary is darker and warmer than your HD650, than the K712 will be for sure since it's darker than the Anniversary.  The K712 does push things back a little (less intimate), which was one of the main reasons I bought it.  This is 100% due to the deeper pads, as when I put the Anniversary pads on the K712 it then sounds more intimate than the Anniversary due to its fuller signature.

post #3019 of 3330

I must be a real nerd if I just posted a 10 page commentary on headphone pads. Ugh. I need to get another hobby!

I guess I'm just all for perfecting my idea of the best sounding Q701 variation. I'll hear it maybe sometime. Q701 is good enough.

A little more low bass without much else changing is ALL I need.

 

It really is interesting how pads an alter a headphone's sound so dramatically. It's sometimes enough to ruin the sound of a headphone with the wrong pads.

 

My darker K400 EP is pretty awful with Q701 pads but my LP (more trebly) sounds great with them.

 

Can't wait to try those Gel pads. I just asked the parts guy at AKG about them. I imagine it will be 6 months before we see them here in the USA!

Took me nearly 3 months to get Annie pads.

 

OK, off to listen to my Q701 for once. I haven't listening to that in nearly a week. That must be a record.

Actually I used them for Zelda: A link to the past on the SNES. Felt like listening to speakers :biggrin:

 

It's not bad with my new O2, but Micro Amp is way better with the Q701/Annie. Not because it's colored. I actually think it's more transparent.

Yep, I said it..I need to find a Micro Amp killer for under $500. Nothing too warm or dark, but good with everything. Maybe I can try the Asgard 2 sometime.

Not a fan of the Asgard1.

post #3020 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

Since I don't own any AKG's, I can't say for sure, but dampening vents (or holes) on the underside of a pad (i.e. Beyerdynamic velour pads) help tame the treble significantly (jergpads for the HE-400 and HE-500 for example). I'm not sure if the vents you are referring to are what I am picturing, but exposing the foam on the driver side of the pad should decrease treble, I would think.

 

That is weird. I would have thought it'd be the complete opposite with the AKG headphones.

I just know that with my K400 EP pads they are less open (totally closed off vents) and are much darker. Bass seems a little more present on the EP but not by much. The K400 LP, K601 and Q701 pads all have the foam exposed in the back around the "vents". I think the Q701 pads have more bass than K601 pads because the foam is harder.

 

Thought when the pads are clicked in place they're basically 75% closed off I would think.

post #3021 of 3330

Can anyone please tell how the Annie does classical (solo) piano, chamber music and big orchestral music like Mahler and Shostakovich?

 

Any thoughts? thanks!!

 

-edit- I guess what I really want to know is would it be worthy to own this HF besides my K501, considering I mainly listen to the genre's I mentioned


Edited by Quinto - 9/16/13 at 2:42am
post #3022 of 3330

I'm also interested to know how the Annies compare with the Shure SRH1840

post #3023 of 3330
The Annie is a fantastic all rounder. I don't see them doing ANY genre any injustice.
post #3024 of 3330

I just jumped on a pair of Annies. A 3rd party seller was selling a single pair for $365 yesterday and I couldn't pass it up! I'm hoping that these fit somewhere between the DT880 and the X1. I love the bass on the X1, but they could definitely be a little overpowering at times. The DT880's have the same issue with treble. I'm shooting to have the bass of the X1 (though slightly less quantity) and the highs of the DT880 (though slightly less metallic sounding). Hopefully these will be a good match!

post #3025 of 3330
The Annies have less treble than the X1 and DT880...
post #3026 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Annies have less treble than the X1 and DT880...

 

Well, I'm sure I'll still enjoy them. Not sure where I had interpreted them as having better treble than the X1... oh well. Do you mean that the treble doesn't extend as well or that they are more laid back like the HD600/580?

post #3027 of 3330
They're more laid back/less emphasized/smoother.
post #3028 of 3330

Well, I got them in last night and I'm diggin' them so far. They are probably the most spacious/airy headphone I've heard. The Alessandro MS1 with the MS1000 mod has a really great wide soundstage but I think the Annies sound a bit more real as the depth and width are more realistic compared to one another. Also, while it has been a couple months since I had my X1's, I find the treble to me more powerful on these. I will not speak for the treble extension, but the energy is there and it gives the headphone a great amount of clarity despite it's warm signature (something the HD600/580 struggles with due to the really laid back treble). Also, I found them to not be quite as bassy as I had expected but it is very tight and the lower mids are so rich and full, I love it. I find that the HD600/580 has better bass extension but at the expense of having a much more closed sound.

 

Build quality wise... I guess I can't complain. They look and feel much cheaper in person, but they are so light! Plus it seems (from what I've read) that the plastic is actually rather durable despite the cheap feel and appearance.

 

And oh man, are they comfy... :)

post #3029 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

Well, I got them in last night and I'm diggin' them so far. They are probably the most spacious/airy headphone I've heard. The Alessandro MS1 with the MS1000 mod has a really great wide soundstage but I think the Annies sound a bit more real as the depth and width are more realistic compared to one another. Also, while it has been a couple months since I had my X1's, I find the treble to me more powerful on these. I will not speak for the treble extension, but the energy is there and it gives the headphone a great amount of clarity despite it's warm signature (something the HD600/580 struggles with due to the really laid back treble). Also, I found them to not be quite as bassy as I had expected but it is very tight and the lower mids are so rich and full, I love it. I find that the HD600/580 has better bass extension but at the expense of having a much more closed sound.

Build quality wise... I guess I can't complain. They look and feel much cheaper in person, but they are so light! Plus it seems (from what I've read) that the plastic is actually rather durable despite the cheap feel and appearance.

And oh man, are they comfy... smily_headphones1.gif
If the 580/600 has better bass extension I better stay miles away from these
post #3030 of 3330

I'm not sure about the Anniversary, but the K712 has stronger sub bass than the HD650.  Last time I compared the Anniversary and HD650 (just one time at a meet) I thought it did as well.

 

 

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