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post #2671 of 3188

So... do you hear a difference? If not -- all is well, you've got a solution to your problem.

It's your headphones, your ears. If everything is OK for you without that foam layer why simply not keep it that way?

post #2672 of 3188

you're right, and i've removed them already since yesterday :D

 

But do they have some impact? - i cant hear any difference ... 

post #2673 of 3188
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Originally Posted by minion1990 View Post

 - i cant hear any difference ... 

 

That's all that matters...

post #2674 of 3188

from this point on, it's just curiosity.

why are there such pads - they have to change something or?

post #2675 of 3188
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Originally Posted by minion1990 View Post

how much impact do they little foam rings behind the earpads have on the sound?
with them removed, my ear doesn't touch the driver anymore...

Makes a very large difference. Personally, removing those rings made them too hard to listen to for my ears (very harsh, grating).
post #2676 of 3188

Of course its possible that AKG installed those pads to alter the sound in a specific way. But it might also be just to protect the drivers from hair, dust etc. I think its more of the latter...

So if you don't hear any difference that bothers you -- enjoy the increased comfort :-)

post #2677 of 3188

Just a quick question: Is it okay to put the memory pads without thinking about which sides it needs to be on? I've took those out to clean it and when I try to put it back on, I was confused which side needs to be at bottom or top etc.

 

I remember K701 having pads where the top sides (top of your ear) were bigger than the bottom sides (bottom ear) so it was easily distinguishable. However, for Annie's pads these looks evenly laid out so I'm kind of confused which side to put on. 


Edited by chococya96 - 6/13/13 at 3:10am
post #2678 of 3188
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Originally Posted by chococya96 View Post

Just a quick question: Is it okay to put the memory pads without thinking about which sides it needs to be on? I've took those out to clean it and when I try to put it back on, I was confused which side needs to be at bottom or top etc.

 

I remember K701 having pads where the top sides (top of your ear) were bigger than the bottom sides (bottom ear) so it was easily distinguishable. However, for Annie's pads these looks evenly laid out so I'm kind of confused which side to put on. 

 

With the memory foam pads, they're symmetrical so it doesn't matter which way you put them on.

 

The angled pads go: Thicker side behind your ear, thinner side in front of your ear.

post #2679 of 3188
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

 

With the memory foam pads, they're symmetrical so it doesn't matter which way you put them on.

 

The angled pads go: Thicker side behind your ear, thinner side in front of your ear.

 

So Annie's pads are symmetrical?

 

Oh I didn't know the thicker sides goes on "behind" your ear... always thought it was bottom of your ear.

post #2680 of 3188
That's some vertical soundstage you'd be getting that way, lol.
post #2681 of 3188

Maybe all this different pad / pad position talk depends on the shape of the head, lol biggrin.gif

 

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post #2682 of 3188
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Originally Posted by plakat View Post

Of course its possible that AKG installed those pads to alter the sound in a specific way. But it might also be just to protect the drivers from hair, dust etc. I think its more of the latter...

So if you don't hear any difference that bothers you -- enjoy the increased comfort :-)


Just like they do in IEMS, a small film protects from dust, but also I suspect have a small effect on high frequencies (harmonics).


Edited by musiclife - 6/18/13 at 6:15am
post #2683 of 3188

So after about 3 weeks of listening to music with the Annies through the STX and the O2, I've come to the conclusion that I prefer listening through the STX.  The O2 is underwhelming.

 

It's up on eBay.

post #2684 of 3188

Anyone using an Audio Quest Dragon Fly to run these? If so what do you think?

 

Thanks!

post #2685 of 3188

Ok for the last couple of days I’ve been analyzing and comparing the angled spring foam K702 pads against non-angled memory foam anniversary pads in my K702 anniversaries. I’ll start my impressions by showing you a side by side photo of the pads.

 

 

 

From the photo you see that the anniversary pads are about as thick as the thinnest part of the K702 pad. The spring foam feels lighter against your skin and doesn’t compress practically at all, which means they don’t produce much heat or hot spots. With K702 pads you’re left with plenty of space between your ears and the drivers. Anniversary pads, on the other hand, compress a lot more, which means they also seal better and the drivers are located closer to your ear. Accordingly, you need less amplification in terms of loudness. The anniversary pads seem to collect a lot of dust, hair and other impurities, but they are quite easy to clean.

 

 

K702 pads:

 

Spring foam is not the best material for sealing purposes. K702 pads can leave leakage points, especially to below the ears / jawbone area. It goes without saying that such leakage points have negative effect on both the sound and the feel of immersion. I use my K702 pads as they should be used = thick parts pointing back. The spring foam feels light and soft, definitely comfortable. I see myself correcting headphone position equally much with both pad types.

 

The sound is very transparent, layered and filled with micro-detail. The sense of air and openness is wonderful, but can sometimes feel slightly unnatural. With K702 pads the mids and highs feel very crisp and forward.

 

Low frequencies have good resolution and they feel natural. Bass and drums are round, smooth, detailed and easy to follow. Sometimes kicks feel slightly distant and hollow. The bass department makes me consider a stronger amplification.

 

With pop, rock, blues, rap, EDM etc. the K702 pads feel a bit too sterile, analytical and dry. The warmness and kick, which are known to make these genres fun and playful, are not quite sufficient in my opinion. The amazing clarity and big sound stage are best suited for classical, jazz, instrumental and acoustic music.

 

 

K702 anniversary pads:

 

Memory foam pads are better for sealing. The warmer the pads get the more they compress and the better seal they provide. This might cause your ears to touch the drivers as some (elves) here have noticed. The memory foam also creates more heat than the spring foam pads and could, in extreme cases, cause hot spots for some. Memory foam pads are considerable option for people using glasses.

 

Anniversary pads have fuller wet sound. The bass is more abundant and the whole signature is warmer. Changing straight from K702 pads to anniversary pads the bass feels slightly exaggerated, like being EQ’d. After playing more songs my brain gets used to the sound and the increased bass pushes the rest of the spectrum back a bit. Mids and highs don’t feel as forward and the overall sound is more balanced.

 

The warmness and musicality comes with a cost of details. You definitely lose some details, clarity and sense of air. The sound stage is again very large, but feels more focused. I have to agree with Blackmore, anniversary pads sound darker and less airy with more closed back feeling.

 

Anniversary pads are practically suited for everything you find the standard K702 pads to be lacking. They turn K702s into very versatile headphones that can be used for gaming, movies and all kind of music.

 

 

Bottom line:

 

Changing from K702 pads to anniversary pads you lose and gain some. K702 pads have absolutely amazing sense of air and transparency, while anniversary pads make the headphones more balanced and versatile. Ultimately, K702 pads are more Hi-Fi because of their unparallel accuracy and detail. However, this doesn’t necessarily make them more enjoyable pads especially in the normal use. In my opinion, the K702 pads are best suited for analytical listening, classical and jazz. Anniversary pads are for more fun musical listening. Tyll would probably describe anniversaries as the "gentleman's" version of the K702.

 

It was about time AKG did some tweaking to the sound of this headphone line. They didn’t, however, hit the jackpot with the anniversary pads. The bass increase and warmness are very nice and we have more balanced cans, but we also lose something in the process. For better mix of crispness and warmness AKG needs to release totally new product(s).

 

It seems really stupid to write and compare these two pads in order to find the better one. They both serve different purpose and should be considered as complementary pads to each other. What the anniversary pads do is make the X70X even better more versatile cans. We should keep in mind that we are practically talking about accessories. For K702 owners getting anniversary pads is cheaper (and arguably better) option than getting HD650. I'm pretty sure that most of the anniversary haters don't like the HD650 and the HD650 lovers will like the anniversaries. Pad switching is very easy. Just push and turn. Both pads should be included to every X7XX package imo.

 

 

Anniversary pads (part number 5021871)

 

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Frank Rodriguez
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AKG /Soundcraft /Studer /Crown Microphone

 

Harman/Microphone/Mixer Division
8500 Balboa Blvd
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Northridge, CA 91329

E-mail: frank.rodriguez@harman.com
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