Originally Posted by grandpatzer
Thanks for the good post.
"Fun" to me propably would be getting sucked into a game or movie.
When I listen to music it's usually eminem and propably I prefer havin good amount of bass.
Also "feeling" bullets and explosions is something that I prefer.
Based on the above I think closed headphones are the best, however for competitive gaming they say open headphones is the way to go.
Generally I don't like paying for a product if it's overpriced, propably won't buy the K702annie at 569euro's.
I'm generally spending 80% on gaming and 20% on movies/tv shows.
Because I mainly do gaming and positional sound is important(footsteps & knowing where enemy is) I looked at this guide:
I based my list of that guide, even though I exclusively game on PC (that link is for console gaming).
The Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 250ohm is also cheap (cheaper then Sennheiser PC360).
According the link above it got Fun: 9 and Competitive: 8.
Ultimately because I do game alot and want every edge in competitive gaming I propably should buy PC360/AD700/K701/Q701/K702/702annie (for competitive they all got 9.5 or better).
Considering I never tried anything Hi Fi earphones before I could aswell just order Sennheiser PC360 and call it a day :D
I was seriously considering PC350 but I read so many bad things it fell out of buying list.
I have been on a quest to find some headphones that are balanced in the fun/competitive areas and so far have tried the AKG Q701 and the Beyerdynamic DT990 250. Both of these I have tested with a Fiio E17 amp and I use a Astro Mixamp for gaming.
AKG Q701- It didnt take much listening to realize this is a truly special headphone. The sound signature is slightly warm but very balanced with incredible instrumental separation and a massively euphoric soundstage that will place instruments all around you creating a very "orchestraic" experience. With gaming this results in incredible positioning/directional accuracy and detail retrieval resulting in a very analytical feeling sound signature/experience. While the soundstage is enormous and airy, it dies off in the sub bass department very noticeably. It simply with not "thump, thwack, boom, etc." like the DT990 will. This for me, as petty as it may sound, was enough to try something else as the lack of bass simply ruined the immersion factor for me with games. Explosions were analyzed and not in my face like I wanted them to be, shotgun shots sounded like pellet bursts and not a satisfying boom like you want them to be. (even though they technically are pellet bursts). All in all I just could not be happy with the lack of sub bass for a set of gaming cans. However, these headphones have such a special sound when it comes to music that I may one day return to them. Even for rock they were awesome. I played some Deadmau5 type stuff and while they bass was certainly present, it just was as impactful as I wanted it to be. EQ'ing in more bass starts to muddy the mids and mess with the soundstage/signature too much so that is was not much of an option either.
DT 990- Ahhh, theres the bass Ive been looking for. You will immediately notice these cans are quite pronounced in the bass and treble department. But damn is the bass incredible; so responsive, powerful, immersive and welcoming. It does not overwhelm the soundstage but it does make the mids feel recessed in comparison. The treble is certainly bright and MILDLY fatiguing but you can effectively EQ that down without messing with the rest of the sound. The soundstage is quite large though certainly smaller than the Q701s. The positional/directional accuracy is great but also a small step below the Q701s as it does not clearly separate each direction out as well. For example you will have a harder time telling if something is coming from back right or straight back as the separation is not quite as clear as it is with the Q701s. For competitive gaming this is not a huge loss because in Dolby Surround you will still have great awareness. Unless you are a VERY competitive gamer (league play) you shouldnt be too concerned. What these cans do bring to the table is immersion and it is mostly due to the deep sub bass and warm, in your face treble. Explosions, gun shots, electronic sounds, etc. are all awesome sounding and well realized/felt with the DT 990. Rap music/electronic etc. all sound great. They do well with rock as well. However, they do not have the massively euphoric soundstage (sound space really) that the Q701s do. I found myself getting lost in the music with the Q701s much more than with the DT990s which are more fatiguing overall.
One last part about the comfort. I found the Q701s to have a neat suspension design for the headband but it did start to dig in on the crown of my head and become uncomfortable after an hour or so. The DT990 pro that I have are quite comfortable by comparison. Some say they are clamply although I dont think so and if they are for you just stretch them out a bit. Both are constructed very well too.
For gaming, Id go with the DT 990 with what you describe as your preferences. Then grab a clip on mic of some sort and call it a day!