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post #2356 of 3233
MLE, I prefer the HE400 to the DT880 600ohm for most music even though I would say the DT880 are more neutral. The DT880 do seem to have better mids and a wider soundstage, but the HE400 seem to have a higher and deeper soundstage. I do prefer the 880 on some tracks though like Les Miserables On My Own. The vocals seem too recessed on the HE400 for that song. However, I prefer the HE400 on Adele's Rolling in the Deep.

Surprisingly, I don't prefer one over the other for a specific genre; it really depends on the mix of the song. On some bass heavy songs, the HE400 does seem overpowering.
Edited by Limniscate - 4/24/13 at 6:54pm
post #2357 of 3233
The Annie is more forgiving and smoother in the treble than either of those, though the mids are richer than both. As for bass, hmm, it might be comparable to the 880, and definitely not the HE400 which has the best bass outside of the LCD2 that I've personally heard.
post #2358 of 3233
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Annie is more forgiving and smoother in the treble than either of those, though the mids are richer than both. As for bass, hmm, it might be comparable to the 880, and definitely not the HE400 which has the best bass outside of the LCD2 that I've personally heard.

Best bass, or most bass?

post #2359 of 3233

Yeah the LCD2 is just amazing.

post #2360 of 3233
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Best bass, or most bass?

Best =/= most

Most bass would go to the many, many bass heavy cans out there in the world.

The LCD2's bass is natural, incredibly deep, and meaty, without truly being emphasized. If you want the MOST bass while still being refined overall, I'd say that belongs to the Denon D7000s out of the ones I have heard. That's a party happening next to your ears.
post #2361 of 3233
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I know -- I work as a sound engineer ;-)
Thats why I said 'for my private listening': I don't want to have more in my signal path than absolutely necessary.

I agree, everytime I activate any sound processor, be it foobar eq, TV's 'vocal enhance', Max volume, or whatever you call it, I know the sound always become less smooth, or harsher.
post #2362 of 3233

OK, I have had my Annies for a day now.  I listened to them all evening yesterday.  I am finding the bass somewhat lacking and the soundstage not quite as good as I was expecting.  What is a good burn-in for these?   Will a proper burn-in improve the bass and soundstage?  Also, if I am burning them with bass raised in the EQ, will it have an impact on how the drivers settle in the end?

post #2363 of 3233

What headphones are you use to - or what bass are you comparing these to?

post #2364 of 3233
His name is BassMan...

With a name like that, no wonder you don't find the Annie to have enough bass. These are well balanced headphones, not bass heavy.
post #2365 of 3233

Well, I demoed the HD 650 and thought the bass was just right with those.  The bass is not as satisfying here.  The sub bass of the ANnies sounds good, but when you start approaching the mid bass it does not sound very rich.
 

post #2366 of 3233
That's because the HD650 is mid bass heavy. The Annie is more fleshed out and linear in the bass. The 650 doesn't touch the Annie's sub bass.
post #2367 of 3233

I am definitely looking for a balanced sound.  I do love bass of course, but not at the expense of the mids and highs.  So far my initial impression for the Annie is great mids and highs and lacking mid bass.  I felt the HD 650 had good bass and mids, but lacking highs.
 

post #2368 of 3233
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Will a proper burn-in improve the bass and soundstage?

 

You'll get zero benefit from burn-in if those two you feel should improve.

post #2369 of 3233
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Originally Posted by BassMan X View Post

I am definitely looking for a balanced sound.  I do love bass of course, but not at the expense of the mids and highs.  So far my initial impression for the Annie is great mids and highs and lacking mid bass.  I felt the HD 650 had good bass and mids, but lacking highs.

 

If someone makes a graph, I'm certain the mid bass is right on par with the mids. You're just used to a mid bass hump (which is fine, I normally do too).

If you could ever afford it, the LCD2 is what you'd want. Bass is linear but amazing and full, mids are amazing, and treble is better than the HD650's treble.

Oh, but soundstage is definitely not on par.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 4/25/13 at 2:15pm
post #2370 of 3233

Well, I was pleasantly surprised to see that my AKGs were returned by Harman today!

 

 

I looked at the packing slip to see what they did, and I saw this:

 

"Faults Reported: RIGHT SIDE IS OUT - warranty resolder

 Action Taken:  resoldered wire." 

 

What? Right side is "OUT"??  confused.gif  Um....Nooo?

That was an immediate red flag.  That's not what the problem was.  And how is resoldering a WIRE going to help fix a physically rattling driver?

 

Unfortunately I plugged them in and confirmed the worst.  They didn't "repair" anything, and the driver rattles exactly like before.

 

I specifically stated that the problem was the right driver rattled during strong low bass.

How did they completely ignore that and come to the conclusion that the entire right side was "OUT" and could be fixed by a simple resolder of one of the outside wires???  AKG had a failure in communication somewhere.

 

So now I get to go through the whole process again!  YAY!!!!

 

I guess I need to get on the phone with some people and try and hammer in why the failed, so as I to avoid just having them fail to fix it again if I send it in a second time. At this point, I'd actually prefer they print me an insured shipping label, as it cost me $20 to ship it to them the first time, and now I have to do it again.  I'm out $40 for my "in-warranty repair" because they failed to fix it the first time.

 

mad.gif

 

EDIT: After ~40 minutes of being transferred around on the phone with AKG, they've agreed to ship me a new replacement pair of K702 Anniversaries.


Edited by chicolom - 4/25/13 at 7:23pm
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