Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy
I'm not able to swap FAST enough, but I SWEAR, Tdock's Q701 is voiced just a hint brighter than my Annie
. Not sure if it's driver variation or burn-in, etc, but it is brighter, even with Annie pads
. Either way, I do prefer the Q701 with Annie pads than the Q701 pads, so whether it's the same exact sound out of the headphones or not, I say the Annie pads are worth it, IMHO.
Either way, make no mistake, they are either the same sonically, or they are nearly 98% the same with a slight more warmth out of the Annie, though my Annie isn't as burned in as tdock's Q701, if you believe in that... what I do know is that my Annie is warmer and more bottom heavy and not as airy as his Q701 with the Annie pads.
edit: Absolutely. My Annie is warmer. Not a huge difference, but I can hear it. So it doesn't sound identical to HIS Q701, but it's close-ish. I don't want to commit to saying it is or isn't the same, but either way, the sound is very close, so if you own the Q701 and are fine with the headband, it's worth trying out the Annie pads.
Just remember, two of the same headphone can sound slightly different. Case in point, I had THREE DT990/600ohms in my house at the same time, and they all sounded a hair different from one another, one of them being noticeably more bassy and mid recessed compared to the other two.
I know it's hard to believe, but there is always a TINY possibility that the reason my Q701 is slightly brighter is due to the outer grill and foam behind it. I imagine the difference is barely audible. I tested some minor grill changes and did hear some slight differences. The biggest difference SOMEHOW was when removing the outer grills foam. I know I didn't like my Q701 as much with the K601/K701 outer grill (stock pads). It made it very very slighly less warm and thinner sounding. We're probably talking like a 3-5% difference. It only is noticeable in specific music. I was using some Tony Bennett songs with a good soundstage It's actually as bad as comparing the graininess of the HD-650 vs the HD-600. That also was only noticeable in music with a large soundstage. Some won't be able to hear any difference with most music.
I used the heck out of my Q701. I bet I have about 1000+ hours on it. I spent 120 hours in Skyrim alone. I don't recall my number, but I bought it in October 2011. I didn't notice any changes along the way, but it's possible.
I think comparing the difference in grills is a waste of time. Best thing for someone to do is to try one grill for a week and then switch to a different one. Otherwise the sound is way too similar. Only a complete nerd would do this (like me).
I imagine if I wanted the Q701 with Annie pads to sound 100% like the 65th, it would be a good idea to remove the Q701s outer grill foam OR get some K701 outer grills (slightly more open).
My old K601 actually got warmer/bassier when I removed it's outer grills. Weird. Maybe the 65th is similar in that it gets warmer/bassier when being made more open? Doubt that!
Strangely the same thing didn't apply to my Q701! I could be wrong though.
Feel free to remove any grills if you get bored. They turn counter clockwise Sounds weird, but those free priority mail tags work better than tape! Less sticky too.
My guess is that the foam and outer grill will make some area of the mids sound a tad more forward than the 65, but maybe not. The 65th probably has more forward (and fuller sounding) lower mids, but maybe not.
Sometimes it seems that when you have more warmth and more forward lower mids you get less forward upper mids and less treble. Guess it's all some weird balancing acting that i'll never figure out.
Edited by tdockweiler - 3/1/13 at 12:54pm