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post #1666 of 3330

^ for some reason I've never gotten my Q701 to ever have a very airy soundstage on any amp. I mean it is, but not like a K601, K400 or AD700. It's soundstage is basically perfect for me though. Not too massive, but smaller than the K400 I have with the same setup. Maybe mine is warmer than some other Q701s, but highly unlikely.

 

I do remember feeling that my old Asgard made the k702's soundstage TOO BIG. However that's possible. I guess if I wanted a larger soundstage I could try the Asgard 2 or something with my Q701.

 

You know what headphone I really kind of miss? The MDR-SA3000? It was so similar to the K702 I had that it got about zero use. It also had weird pads. I guess the SA3000 and 5000 are discontinued. K702 had better bass anyway.

 

One of my favorites is still the ATH-AD2000, but I couldn't deal with it's awful pads. The wing design on that thing is perfectly ok unlike the AD700. I think the AD2000 and K400 have to be two of my favorites for acoustic music.

 

Not sure why this K400 has a larger soundstage than the Q701, but I guess I should expect that due to less bass, less warmth and possibly more treble. I'm not usually a fan of massive soundstages. The K501's was over doing it.

 

EDIT: Guess this isn't the Q701 thread. Whoops normal_smile%20.gif

post #1667 of 3330
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

This is so funny, I am about to buy a pair of Qs right now. The circle of something ...

 

Wait what?! But still keeping 700s, right?

post #1668 of 3330
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

This is so funny, I am about to buy a pair of Qs right now. The circle of something ...


LOL

 

Why are you coming back for more AKG?

 

By the way, your K702s say "Hi!"...

 

post #1669 of 3330

I think I'm going to get the pads and just put them on the Q's when I want a little more bass and use the angled pads for gaming.  

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Same.  I wouldn't give up the Q701 for the anniversary.  Luckily the Q701 pads + Anniversary  = Q701 sound k701smile.gif

post #1670 of 3330
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

EDIT: Guess this isn't the Q701 thread. Whoops normal_smile%20.gif

 

GET OUT!!!!!

 

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Tdock, you should try some AD900x then let me know how they are....

post #1671 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

I think I'm going to get the pads and just put them on the Q's when I want a little more bass and use the angled pads for gaming.  

Dunno why, when the Annie pads are still very revealing, and amazing for all forms of gaming. It is still god mode inducing. Honestly don't see any reason to have the non-Annie pads unless you're just a sucker for extra air or treble. I find the Annie to have an incredibly large soundstage as is, particularly when paired up for gaming use. You may as well go for the AD700 if you want more air and space.

Yes, the Annie may be warmer and more 'fun' in comparison to the Q701 and others, but it is still a very balanced headphone, and still very revealing. While the Q701 was slightly bass deficient, the Annie isn't and instead trades off a little of the treble. That is the major difference. One has more bass, one has more treble. That is what gives them their flavors.

Compared to the LCD2, the Annie is borderline analytical.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/28/13 at 10:15pm
post #1672 of 3330

I think your misunderstand me, I want the pads because if they sound like the Annie's it would be cheaper.  And if I don't like it for gaming than I can switch back to the Q's pads.  Why does this seem to bother you?  If I don't like the sound I'm getting with the Annie's while gaming than its my problem and it can be regulated by just simply switching out the pads, not paying $400+ just to get a little more bass.  $70 vs $400+...

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Dunno why, when the Annie pads are still very revealing, and amazing for all forms of gaming. It is still god mode inducing. Honestly don't see any reason to have the non-Annie pads unless you're just a sucker for extra air or treble. I find the Annie to have an incredibly large soundstage as is, particularly when paired up for gaming use. You may as well go for the AD700 if you want more air and space.

Yes, the Annie may be warmer and more 'fun' in comparison to the Q701 and others, but it is still a very balanced headphone, and still very revealing. While the Q701 was slightly bass deficient, the Annie isn't and instead trades off a little of the treble. That is the major difference. One has more bass, one has more treble. That is what gives them their flavors.

Compared to the LCD2, the Annie is borderline analytical.
post #1673 of 3330

I've fallen in love with both of their sounds.  For those who feel the same way as me, there's nothing wrong with keeping a set of each pad around.

 

$70 isn't too bad to own both sounds IMO (assuming AKG ever gets their pads in stock).

 

 

I'm also starting to fall in love with the way the Anniversaries look.  I feel guilty "cheating" on my beloved Q701s... frown.gif

 

Perhaps I should think of it as a three-way....


Edited by chicolom - 2/28/13 at 10:44pm
post #1674 of 3330
Hot Q on chico on Annie action? Sure sounds kinky... tongue.gif

What do regular foam/velour pads tend to sell for? Like the Q701's or Beyer's...
Edited by Impulse - 2/28/13 at 10:50pm
post #1675 of 3330
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Hot Q on chico on Annie action? Sure sounds kinky... tongue.gif

What do regular foam/velour pads tend to sell for? Like the Q701's or Beyer's...

 

It's hard to tell where one pad ends and the other begins!

 

According to Dougr33, Fred at AKG quoted the Q701/K702 pads at $14.75 a pad.  That's probably what I'm going to go for - sell the Q701 and keep the Anniversary and pick up two K702 pads direct from AKG.

post #1676 of 3330
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Wait what?! But still keeping 700s, right?

 

I am getting Qs for my lady, she is a terror to headphones, but I was so impressed by the sturdiness of the Annies that I don't think she could break them if she tried.   She broke my Shures tonight and I'm not going to bother getting them repaired.   Since she always busts the cable or the cable input the mini-xlr/replaceable nature of these should do the trick.

 

I am going to start looking for a 700 replacement though (but in no hurry), Miles Davis' Porgy and Bess is really strident through the 700s and it's kind of disappointing, especially the crescendo of Prayer (Oh Doctor Jesus) Miles Davis – Prayer (Oh Doctor Jesus).  This is one of my favorite records.   They have been A+ for everything else, and now this is like a low C.


Edited by toschek - 2/28/13 at 11:19pm
post #1677 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Hawaiiancerveza View Post

I think your misunderstand me, I want the pads because if they sound like the Annie's it would be cheaper.  And if I don't like it for gaming than I can switch back to the Q's pads.  Why does this seem to bother you?  If I don't like the sound I'm getting with the Annie's while gaming than its my problem and it can be regulated by just simply switching out the pads, not paying $400+ just to get a little more bass.  $70 vs $400+...

Lol, it doesn't bother me. Don't know what gave you that impression. People get really defensive lately, lol.

I'm simply stating that if someone had the Annies, there really isn't any reason to step down to the older models if it's for gaming purposes. Both pad types do gaming incredibly well, but the Annie pads has the extra advantage of being more linear with bass and mids. The non-Annies advantage is a thinner, more airy sound, with more treble. To me, that's all good for competitive gaming, but the Annie already does that so well.

Of course, if you already own the Q701, then getting the pads is a logical method of getting new sound and saving money. I would still personally go for the Annie for the much more comfy headband, and limited edition aesthetics (which is IMHO quite a step above the standards models).

If the standard model's headband was so easy to swap out, I wonder why almost no one as done the swap. Ive seen about 2 people having used the K601 headband (which aesthetically on fits the K701's color scheme/gray pads).
post #1678 of 3330
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Chico, wait until you try it for gaming. I think Dolby Headphone will make the soundstage differences not as different as you may think. The Annie thows a pretty large soundstage for gaming and movies.

 

 

MLE, I have to say, I might have to take back some of what I said about the soundstage differences, and the Q701 still projecting out a few feet more.  I think the anniversary is actually very close to the same size, but I just wasn't used to their sound and their weight.

 

They're now sound more like a similar situation to when I compared the old K702 to my Q701, where the weight could throw you off about the soundstage size. 

I knew going in to watch out for that, but I think my initial impressions still got influenced by it some.

 

Now that I'm more used to the anniversary sound, I can listen "through" the weight a little better to the sound position behind them, and they sound more like they are actually coming from a similar place as the Qs.  They are just bigger and more grounded and take up a little bit more space in the soundstage.   BTW, bigger sounding instruments also usually means a slightly taller soundstage, and that's what I hear with the anniversaries.

 

So the Q701 can still give off the impression of having slightly roomier soundstage - the sounds themselves are a little smaller and have more "personal space" around them.  The anniversary sounds are bigger so less free space in between the sounds.   The Q701s also have more air in between sounds, where the anniversaries have a darker, blacker background.  The Q701 sounds are lighter and have more of that "floating" quality, which is something a lot of K70x owners love.  The anniversary just has more of a grounded quality to the sounds.  Weightier sounds don't "float" as well!

 

BTW, I'm not just talking about gaming/dolby headphone, but stereo music as well...

 

 

Well, before I posted my initial impressions, so everything I said was fair at the time.  I'm just letting you know my more recent impressions.


Edited by chicolom - 2/28/13 at 11:42pm
post #1679 of 3330
Mad...you replied to me and you did missunderstand me...lol I stated that I was going to get the Annie's pads and put them on the Q's because I already have them...lol. im not upset but more baffled that you replied and didn't fully read or just missunderstood what I said...lol
Edited by Hawaiiancerveza - 2/28/13 at 11:45pm
post #1680 of 3330
Lol, it's all good. That's the same impression I had with all three AKGs I have owned. Old K701 having the biggest due to the thinnest body of sound, Q701 having more body making soundstage seem smaller though it wasn't, and now again with the Annie.

Having spent all this time with the Annie, I could tell that the soundstage was just as big as I remember of the others, but that extra body in sound really takes up more space, so it's not as easy to tell that the soundstage is as expansive.

Been using the Annie for gaming since I've got them, and they are definitely on par with the Q701 for me in terms of positioning, soundstage, and detail. Just, that extra body really changes up the signature, so its not as immediately noticeable.

In reality, I would give all three models a 9.5 for competitive use, but few micropoints go towards the K701 over the Q701, and a few micropoints go towards the Q over the Annie due to immediacy. When you're in the middle of a gaming session however, all three have clear positional cues.

The reason why I say the Annie is the ultimate all rounder, is because it adds a natural quality to the sound in addition to all that gaming goodness.

I think people should understand that the Annie may have extra bass which adds fun, but that doesn't mean it's a bassy can. It just means that NOW, the tonal balance has been perfected and bass is no longer a deficiency. The Annie is the most natural sounding headphone I've heard to date.

I can't wait to get tdock's Q701 and put the Annie pads on. If it sounds like the Annie, it will from now on be my first recommendation for around $300.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/28/13 at 11:49pm
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