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post #1216 of 3233
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

Yikes, heard the Senn HD 700s today and I'm kinda tempted to send the Annies back considering I can pick the Senns up for a flat $729.00 from Crutchfield. Don't know if I should do it or not, I'm really conflicted ... I mean the Annies are amazing but after hearing the 700s and how much fun they sound while still remaining a serious listening tool I don't know anymore.

Gah! What should I do???

My biggest problem with the HD 700's was always their price, because $1k is just too close to the price of the HD 800's to compete. But if you can get them for under $800? go for it! 

post #1217 of 3233
Crutchfield has factory refurbed ones for $729, free shipping, no tax. I'm fine with refurb, I got my Amperiors that way for $160 -- more than 1/2 off MSRP.

Blerg. I think I'm going to order some and may the best can win. I only have until the 28th to return the Annies. My b-day is on the 28th, I can pretend it's my present to myself right?

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_143HD700R/Sennheiser-HD-700-Factory-Refurbished.html?showAll=N&search=refurbished_hd_700&skipvs=T
post #1218 of 3233

Does the current K702 have the ridiculous bumpy headband still? 

post #1219 of 3233

I would imagine it does. All the pictures from the places they sell at have the bumps on the headband. 

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So rawrster... is the Annie a keeper for you? Is the Mjolnir too bright for it? 

 

 

Do any of you have HD600, HD650 and the Annie on hand? I've got the HD600 and HD650 now, and there is obviously a bit of overlap. I'm curious if I get the Annie which of the two it might displace... 

post #1221 of 3233
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So rawrster... is the Annie a keeper for you? Is the Mjolnir too bright for it? 

 

 

Do any of you have HD600, HD650 and the Annie on hand? I've got the HD600 and HD650 now, and there is obviously a bit of overlap. I'm curious if I get the Annie which of the two it might displace... 

 

It's doubtful they will be keepers. I can't use them with my Mjolnir since the mini xlr connection is only 3 pin and not 4 so balanced would take some effort. I wouldn't say the Mjolnir is bright however but aggressive. I think it's more a poorly matched components when people say the Mjolnir is bright or the dac is not up to par depending on the headphone. I use it with my Anedio D1 only but that is no slouch either. The dac is top notch and the amp is great. I thought it was better than my V200 amp. 

 

Unfortunately I do not have the HD600 or HD650 anymore. The Senns are definitely warmer and they have more weight in the bass range esp with the HD650. Other than that there's not much I can really offer with how these differ than the HD6x0. It's been too long since I had either and never was able to keep them since the pads sqeaked a lot and drove me crazy when I had them so they didn't last long.

post #1222 of 3233

650 most likely. The 65s are similarish due to a tad of warmness in the midrange/low end -- just a dollop, not a full scoop like the 650s, but it's close enough that I think it would displace the 650s first.   The 65s also have a very clean low end, not as muddy as the 650 can be at times, but the bass impact is kind of similar I think.  The low end of the 65s seem like a cleaned up version of the 650s, but slightly attenuated towards neutrality if that makes sense.

 

65s are very nice, I like mine quite a lot but thinking about parting with them now for something that may not even really be an upgraydd.

post #1223 of 3233
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Does the current K702 have the ridiculous bumpy headband still? 

 

Yes, they still have it.   I wonder if the bumps give people with hot-dog neck a waffle effect if they wear the cans around their necks for an extended period of time.

post #1224 of 3233

The HD700's are obviously going to sound better than the annies over all; they're great headphones but they're just over-priced. They are flawed in a way that they aren't a great reference phone nor are they the most natural sounding in their price range.

 

At 729$ though, why not though! rolleyes.gif

post #1225 of 3233
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

The HD700's are obviously going to sound better than the annies over all; they're great headphones but they're just over-priced. They are flawed in a way that they aren't a great reference phone nor are they the most natural sounding in their price range.

 

At 729$ though, why not though! rolleyes.gif

 

How can you be sure about this?

post #1226 of 3233

Why go for HD700? Can't you get second hand 800s for almost the same price. And they should be far superior according to multiple reviews. I have always wonderer why they even made those 700s? More affordable and inferior 800s... problem is they aren't even that much cheaper that I'd ever consider to get them for myself. I've always loved 800s and if I ever upgrade from annies they are probably going to be 800s. In Finland the 700s retail for 795 euros and 800s for 999 euros. In top of that I can pick up used 800s for 700 euros from Finnish hifi forums.

post #1227 of 3233
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

Why go for HD700? Can't you get second hand 800s for almost the same price. And they should be far superior according to multiple reviews. I have always wonderer why they even made those 700s? More affordable and inferior 800s... problem is they aren't even that much cheaper that I'd ever consider to get them for myself. I've always loved 800s and if I ever upgrade from annies they are probably going to be 800s. In Finland the 700s retail for 795 euros and 800s for 999 euros. In top of that I can pick up used 800s for 700 euros from Finnish hifi forums.

He mentioned being able to get them for $729, that's nearly a 30% discount from new. I haven't been able to find any used HD 800's go for that low; and trust me, I looked hard before I got my pair. Even a super beat-up, dinged, dirty pair of those with no original packaging went for over $950 on ebay!

So even though I own a pair of HD 800's, I still think the HD700's are nice cans, they're just unreasonably priced normally.  If they went for about $750 regularly, then they would be a great deal, but at $1k? I'd agree that It'd be better to just go for the 800's.  The soundstage and imaging on the HD 700's is still really good, and it's some of the best you can get in the sub-$1000 price range, but it does fall noticeably short of the epic soundstage that the HD 800's have. Basically, the HD 700's are like sitting in a nice hifi apartment home theater setup, whereas the HD 800's are like being in front of a real pro studio setup.  When I first heard the HD 700's (before I tried the 800's), they were really impressive, and the coloration of the sound was actually kind of nice and very reminiscent of other sennheiser phones. But, I didn't feel that they justified the $1000 price tag.  Fast forward to when I demoed the HD 800's, and my jaw immediately dropped. They were absurdly neutral, and the soundstage was out of this world. In less than 20mins of listening to them, their price tag was immediately justified.

So yeah, the HD 700's are a good can, sennheiser just screwed the pooch with the pricing and cursed them with 'little-brother syndrome'. For ~$700 though, they're a good deal.


Edited by oblique63 - 2/10/13 at 11:41pm
post #1228 of 3233

Ok so it's a great bargain. I get it now. For how much are the used 800s going for in the States?
 

post #1229 of 3233

While I never tried HD700, I second that, better to save a little more and get, or at least try HD800, unless HD700 are more forgiving and less picky to the system, however never found HD800 that picky in my.

 

THX

 

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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

Why go for HD700? Can't you get second hand 800s for almost the same price. And they should be far superior according to multiple reviews. I have always wonderer why they even made those 700s? More affordable and inferior 800s... problem is they aren't even that much cheaper that I'd ever consider to get them for myself. I've always loved 800s and if I ever upgrade from annies they are probably going to be 800s. In Finland the 700s retail for 795 euros and 800s for 999 euros. In top of that I can pick up used 800s for 700 euros from Finnish hifi forums.

post #1230 of 3233
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

Ok so it's a great bargain. I get it now. For how much are the used 800s going for in the States?

 

On average, about $1100 (or 822 euro), and the lowest I've seen them go for is about $960 (717 eur), but those aren't usually in the best condition and are rare. I think some better deals have sprung up on the FS forum more recently, but I haven't really been following it anymore.
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