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post #1201 of 2709
2/10/13 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

I've never experienced any sort of burn-in with dynamic or orthodynamic headphones... Maybe my imagination is not good enough for that?

 

I have heard K701 in the past and didn't like it very much for their artificial sound... I am now interested in K702ANV or HD650, need an open-back headphone for my girlfriend.

 

lol, looks like you have a great imagination, especially if you're talking about things that you don't know about.

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post #1202 of 2709
2/10/13 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

 

Graphs are worthless when comparing the sound of the K702/K701 and Q701. You really need to try the Q701 to understand the better balance. Not sure if you've heard it.

There was a person here a few months back who measured the Q701 and K702 and they measured exactly the same and yet sounded very different.

I think amps sometimes sound this way too despite measuring the same. One can be kind of warm and the other cold and analytical.  Yet both measure flat.

I guess they say you can measure warmth, but it sure doesn't seem like it!!

 

The Q701 is definitely more balanced to me, but some may still prefer the K701/K702 for studio use. I remember at one point I felt the Q701 was making some music seem warmer than it should be. This was in comparison to the K601 and KRKs though. I think the Q701 is a bit smoother for very bad (and harsh) recordings.

 

BTW I don't think anyone has confirmed if the Anv. has new foam over the driver. I doubt it. Someone can check the part numbers.

 

You can trust the graphs if they measure the hps on the same equipment, and in the same method.

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2/10/13 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post

 

lol, looks like you have a great imagination, especially if you're talking about things that you don't know about.

 

Not sure what you are refering to... At least, I am not talking about spectacular changes thanks to burn-in when there aren't any, from my experience with several dynamic headphones. Funny thing is that burn-in seems to deliver ONLY changes to THE BETTER SIDE, according to burn-in fanboys... When someone is telling me he used pink noise for a week or two to achieve improvements, it's sounds like "haha, one is actually wearing out the drivers" to me. Whatever.

 

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Originally Posted by Acix View Post

 

You can trust the graphs if they measure the hps on the same equipment, and in the same method.

 

Of course... But what makes you think that K702ANV measure the same as K701/Q701/K702?


Edited by RustA - 2/10/13 at 9:34am
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2/10/13 at 9:42am
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

Not sure what you are refering to... At least, I am not talking about spectacular changes thanks to burn-in when there aren't any, from my experience with several dynamic headphones. Funny thing is that burn-in seems to deliver ONLY changes to THE BETTER SIDE, according to burn-in fanboys... When someone is telling me he used pink noise for a week or two to achieve improvements, it's sounds like "haha, one is actually wearing out the drivers" to me. Whatever.

 

 

Of course... But what makes you think that K702ANV measure the same as K701/Q701/K702?

 

Okay, let's talk again when you'll get your new K702ANV.

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post #1205 of 2709
2/10/13 at 10:02am
To be fair I have never heard changes from new to 200 hours of use of anything I have heard.
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post #1206 of 2709
2/10/13 at 10:27am
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Ordered.  Wil be here on Monday according to UPS..

I look forward to your impressions, although I've had mine for a few weeks now.  I have an Audio Technica AD2000X i'm expecting sometime this coming week that I can make comparisons with the K702 65th if anyone is interested.  Also my Resonessence Labs Concero DAC should arrive Monday to throw in my chain and see how the Anni's respond to source changes.  Currently using a modest but decent Schiit Modi paired to an Audio-GD SA-31.

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post #1207 of 2709
2/10/13 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by Dougr33 View Post

65th ANNIE PADS SOON IN STOCK, VERY REASONABLY PRICED!!

 

Considering that the driver units are the exact same part number on both 702 versions, I'm hoping the pads make a nice improvement to my broken-in 702s!

 

I have Frank's permission to let you know that you can order pads thru AKG Pro's service dept; he'll be stocking up.

Shipping is Free. Here are his instructions, and his contact info at bottom:

 

If you would like to place an order, please provide the following information via e-mail fax or phone, and I can process the order for you.

 

5021871        $36.84 ea

 

Name:

Address:

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Ph:

CC#:

Exp:

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Frank Rodriguez

Customer Service Administrator

AKG /Soundcraft /Studer /Crown Microphone

 

Harman/Microphone/Mixer Division

8500 Balboa Blvd

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Northridge, CA 91329

E-mail: frank.rodriguez@harman.com

Phone: 818-920-3279

fax: 818-920-3218

 

According to this post the drivers have the same part number... but after checking the specification pdf on both 702 versions I found a change in the part number, The K702 part # 2400Z00070, and the K702 Anv # 2400Z00080. Now, I don't know the meaning or the differences between those number, and if there is any. AKG didn't announce any new drivers on the Anniversary version, and re-tuned doesn't mean new driver. Sorry for the disinformation before.


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2/10/13 at 10:44am
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Double post

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post #1209 of 2709
2/10/13 at 10:55am
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According to this post the drivers have the same part number... but after checking the specification pdf on both 702 versions I found a change in the part number, The K702 part # 2400Z00070, and the K702 Anv # 2400Z00080. Now, I don't know the meaning or the differences between those number, and if there is any. AKG didn't announce any new drivers on the Anniversary version, and re-tuned doesn't mean new driver. Sorry for the disinformation before.
I really couldn't find that info. According to the service manuals I am looking at (from akg home page) k702 and k702anv have the same part number for driver while K701 has a different part number.
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2/10/13 at 11:04am
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I really couldn't find that info. According to the service manuals I am looking at (from akg home page) k702 and k702anv have the same part number for driver while K701 has a different part number.

#17 is the different part number: http://www.akg.com/mediendatenbank2/psfile/datei/4/k70248b2a8664eaf0.pdf

And here is the K702 manual: http://www.manualslib.com/manual/204696/Akg-K-702.html#manual

 

I actually have no idea what any of this stuff means. I don't even know which part is the driver! 


Edited by imackler - 2/10/13 at 11:09am
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post #1211 of 2709
2/10/13 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

#17 is the different part number: http://www.akg.com/mediendatenbank2/psfile/datei/4/k70248b2a8664eaf0.pdf
And here is the K702 manual: http://www.manualslib.com/manual/204696/Akg-K-702.html#manual

I actually have no idea what any of this stuff means. I don't even know which part is the driver! 
Sorry but #17 is only one part number with two last digits 80. It is used in both cans according to the linked document. The first file covers both versions of k702
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post #1212 of 2709
2/10/13 at 11:22am
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Sorry but #17 is only one part number with two last digits 80. It is used in both cans according to the linked document. The first file covers both versions of k702

I have no idea, like I said. But the original poster is right that there are two different part #'s for #17 on the two different files. 

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post #1213 of 2709
2/10/13 at 2:48pm
Yikes, heard the Senn HD 700s today and I'm kinda tempted to send the Annies back considering I can pick the Senns up for a flat $729.00 from Crutchfield. Don't know if I should do it or not, I'm really conflicted ... I mean the Annies are amazing but after hearing the 700s and how much fun they sound while still remaining a serious listening tool I don't know anymore.

Gah! What should I do??? Has anyone heard/own both? Care to share your thoughts? It really came down to bass for me, the K 702 annie bass is really good, but the HD 700 seems even better. I know from looking at the graphs that its supposed to have terrible treble, but when I was demoing it I thought the treble was wonderful; I tried with a sample CD with a few different genres and every single time the HD 700 aced it in treble, contra the graphs, I noticed no spikes or dips, just honey dripping sweet smoothness with a little bit of sparkle. Mids were great, bass was like a clean scrubbed HD 650 ... Sonically I felt like it could do no wrong. I might be wrong here and just crushing on something new though. Anyway, talk me down, tell me I'm a fool and that the Annies are close enough that it doesn't justify another $320.

OTOH I am getting a little leery of the limited edition-ness of the Annies. What happens if they break in 5 years and I need a repair? Will drivers/pads/cups be available or will they just break and die forever? Senn usually has models available for years and years and years -- repairs, no problem.

Maybe I should just buy the 700s and demo them at home for a week or two and then really decide. I'm used to an angry wife as it is smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by toschek - 2/10/13 at 3:31pm
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post #1214 of 2709
2/10/13 at 2:50pm

You know, maybe they decided to put the newer drivers into all newer K702's...

 

We know there was a difference between the K701's, so maybe they've done it again.

 

The only way to prove this is for a early K702 buyer to buy a new one with a REALLY high serial number. And I'm pretty sure no one wants to do that.

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post #1215 of 2709
2/10/13 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by 2enty3 View Post

You know, maybe they decided to put the newer drivers into all newer K702's...

 

We know there was a difference between the K701's, so maybe they've done it again.

 

The only way to prove this is for a early K702 buyer to buy a new one with a REALLY high serial number. And I'm pretty sure no one wants to do that.

 

Seriously hate it whenever this happens, but AKG seems to love doing it.

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