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post #1171 of 3252
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

 

Tight controlled bass, sweet treble, and a lush midrange? The only thing under $500 for that is the Mad Dog headphones. There was a change in the design of them officially announced yesterday. Right now, I think this is the best headphone in the sub $500 price range. I don't know if the measurements are published yet, but you'll be shocked when you see them vs. the LCDL-2 measurements. 

 

+1  Agreed.

post #1172 of 3252
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

 

Tight controlled bass, sweet treble, and a lush midrange? The only thing under $500 for that is the Mad Dog headphones. There was a change in the design of them officially announced yesterday. Right now, I think this is the best headphone in the sub $500 price range. I don't know if the measurements are published yet, but you'll be shocked when you see them vs. the LCDL-2 measurements. 

 

I think you have started something here wink.gif

post #1173 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post

p.s. On the other hand,  on AKG website, specifications are identical, except that they say to have tuned the sound for better low frequencies, so, last impressions from Sophonax are closest to that, mean, they are still the same, but with a little better lower end. If thats so, than all users try or simply expressivly driving them from warmish systems, there is no way to get from transparent headphones a warmer sound if they are drived by neutral and transparent system. My K702 are warm when the rocord is warm and they are cold when its cold, but if Annies are warmish all the time, while still transparent, well, you know the answer...

What you seem to be asking is whether the Annies emphasize bass to the extent that there is distinct coloration (i.e. "warmth")? personally I don't really think so, I had both K702s and Annies simultaneously and did a fair amount of A/B comparisons over the course of a couple days before I had to make a decision between Annies, K702s or HD 650s. In the end I went with Annies due to a feeling that the bass/mid bass was accurately represented in the mix. With the HD 650s the bass was too emphasized, it didn't feel accurate, but it was fun. This fun however ruined my listening experience with some genres. Also, I wear glasses and the HD 650s were uncomfortable for wearing more than an hour. With the original K 702s I was having to fiddle with the low end EQ to hear elements in the mix that I KNOW should be there. The bumps in the headband scared me off a bit as well, having read stories of people getting permanent dents in their heads from wearing them.

Anyway, you might read this as some kind of Goldilocks story, which I guess in some way it is. But they aren't warm, they just reflect the sound of your source and other elements in the chain.
post #1174 of 3252

Headband bumps arent a problem for me, I just worry about possible midbass, because presense of more lower end, which can push the mids pretty nasty and I am not looking for that. Also, they have been compared to HD650 many times up here, which is no go for me.

But, if Anniversary edition have kept their balance, then we have a winner, I guess...

 

THX

 

 

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What you seem to be asking is whether the Annies emphasize bass to the extent that there is distinct coloration (i.e. "warmth")? personally I don't really think so, I had both K702s and Annies simultaneously and did a fair amount of A/B comparisons over the course of a couple days before I had to make a decision between Annies, K702s or HD 650s. In the end I went with Annies due to a feeling that the bass/mid bass was accurately represented in the mix. With the HD 650s the bass was too emphasized, it didn't feel accurate, but it was fun. This fun however ruined my listening experience with some genres. Also, I wear glasses and the HD 650s were uncomfortable for wearing more than an hour. With the original K 702s I was having to fiddle with the low end EQ to hear elements in the mix that I KNOW should be there. The bumps in the headband scared me off a bit as well, having read stories of people getting permanent dents in their heads from wearing them.

Anyway, you might read this as some kind of Goldilocks story, which I guess in some way it is. But they aren't warm, they just reflect the sound of your source and other elements in the chain.
post #1175 of 3252
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Originally Posted by muxamed View Post

 

I think you have started something here wink.gif

 

Yeah, I don't believe it could touch LCD-2... I've tried T50RP both modded (bluemonkeyflyer's) and unmodded and it was nowhere near clarity, transparency, detail and openness of rev2.

 

However, for the price...

post #1176 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post

Headband bumps arent a problem for me, I just worry about possible midbass, because presense of more lower end, which can push the mids pretty nasty and I am not looking for that. Also, they have been compared to HD650 many times up here, which is no go for me.

But, if Anniversary edition have kept their balance, then we have a winner, I guess...

 

THX

 

Maybe you should just order them from Thomann. Test for a couple of days and send back. They are expensive enough to get the free delivery and they have the 30 days money back guarantee. We have tried our best to explain how they sound, but it would be best for you to try them yourself. They sound good straight out the box so you get good impressions without spending too much time for the burn in process. From the conversations we've been having I think these might not be the headphones for you, but who knows. At least one thing is for sure, we have different kind of use for them. You listen mainly classical while I listen practically everything from blues to hip hop and from folk to jazz, watch lots of movies and occasionally play some games. I don't want to shuffle through many headphones while doing all this listening so annies fit my needs. If I feel like tweaking the sound I switch tubes. For me the bumby headband was a really big turn off and I also prefer the sound annies produce over everything else I've tried from AKG. You also seem to be happy with your current headphones (sound and comfortability wise) so this probably is not the upgrade for you. Do the Thomann trick before they are sold out. Just for sh*ts and giggles if nothing else.

post #1177 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

Do the Thomann trick before they are sold out.

 

Actually the *are* sold out -- I literally got the last pair from Thomann. Should be back in stock end of february according to their product details page.

post #1178 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

 

Maybe you should just order them from Thomann. Test for a couple of days and send back. They are expensive enough to get the free delivery and they have the 30 days money back guarantee. We have tried our best to explain how they sound, but it would be best for you to try them yourself. They sound good straight out the box so you get good impressions without spending too much time for the burn in process. From the conversations we've been having I think these might not be the headphones for you, but who knows. At least one thing is for sure, we have different kind of use for them. You listen mainly classical while I listen practically everything from blues to hip hop and from folk to jazz, watch lots of movies and occasionally play some games. I don't want to shuffle through many headphones while doing all this listening so annies fit my needs. If I feel like tweaking the sound I switch tubes. For me the bumby headband was a really big turn off and I also prefer the sound annies produce over everything else I've tried from AKG. You also seem to be happy with your current headphones (sound and comfortability wise) so this probably is not the upgrade for you. Do the Thomann trick before they are sold out. Just for sh*ts and giggles if nothing else.

 

Maybe is possible... but half of this time you'll need to cook them to get the 350 hr burn in.

post #1179 of 3252

You really think these have better low bass extension than the Q701 and K702? I mean if so is it more forward sounding? I found this really hard to believe if it's the same driver.

I imagine it just has more mid/upper bass and sacrifices the treble a little. There some recordings i've found lately with low bass that's inaudible on my HD-650 and Q701. It's so uncommon that it's not a big deal.

 

Hopefully the imaging is as good as the K601 and I think it will be.

 

I just have this feeling that if AKG released a 701/K702 headphone with completely flat bass down to 10hz it would ruin it's sound. You add something to one part of the signature and something else gets messed up. I never want to sacrifice my mids for more bass.

 

I'm a bit worried this might have too forward of low mids, but it's highly unlikely.

post #1180 of 3252
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post


I just have this feeling that if AKG released a 701/K702 headphone with completely flat bass down to 10hz it would ruin it's sound. You add something to one part of the signature and something else gets messed up. I never want to sacrifice my mids for more bass.

 

I'm a bit worried this might have too forward of low mids, but it's highly unlikely.

 

No necessary, but they'll need to change this driver to get to 10Hz.

post #1181 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post

No necessary, but they'll need to change this driver to get to 10Hz.

They'd also need to change everyone's ears
post #1182 of 3252
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post


They'd also need to change everyone's ears

 

The HD-800 are great at 10-15Hz... I'm waiting for AKG new drive, but this may take another decade.

post #1183 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post

 

The HD-800 are great at 10-15Hz... I'm waiting for AKG new drive, but this may take another decade.

 

I don't see why a headphones performance in the 10Hz to 15Hz range matters.

post #1184 of 3252
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

I don't see why a headphones performance in the 10Hz to 15Hz range matters.

 

To contain the bass full resolution.

post #1185 of 3252
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post

 

To contain the bass full resolution.

 

I think that having bass go down that low is impractical from a design sense. I think it's more important to tune the other frequency ranges accurately. 

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