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post #1156 of 3253

These headphones to me are something that do little wrong. They do everything good but nothing great. I was hoping that they would narrow the gap between the level of the flagships of 5-10 years ago and the ones we have today such as the HE500 but unfortunately that wasn't the case. I was hoping it would be between the HD650 and HE500 in level but it remains a step below the HE500. I'm not sure how much lower as I no longer have a headphone at the HD650 level or something like a DT880 but I would imagine it would be around there. At $499 retail they are quite overpriced based on what I am hearing so far. 

post #1157 of 3253
Realistically speaking, I think they should cost $350. As well as the HD650.
post #1158 of 3253
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190579040573?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1427.l2649

Figured it'd be easier to have a spare cable to keep connected to my Compass 2, while the stock cable stays on my receiver. It gets old constantly unplugging betweern the two.

Anything to justify spending $40 on a cable. rolleyes.gif

Thinking about it...

Once again you come through. I ordered one of these on Monday (16' custom job, less than $50 shipped). Now I can sit on the couch comfortably distant from my 60" TV and enjoy my Annies with movies too. SQ is noticeably better than the stock cable when hooked up to my headphone amp also. The cable itself is a little stiff right now, but I'm sure it'll get better with time.
Edited by toschek - 2/7/13 at 8:55pm
post #1159 of 3253
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post


Once again you come through. I ordered one of these on Monday (16' custom job, less than $50 shipped). Now I can sit on the couch comfortably distant from my 60" TV and enjoy my Annies with movies too. SQ is noticeably better than the stock cable when hooked up to my headphone amp also. The cable itself is a little stiff right now, but I'm sure it'll get better with time.


Yes - bought one (the 3m version) about a year ago for my K702's

and decided against selling them.  As you say, the SQ (and build quality)

is noticeably better than the stock cable.  Great bang for the buck.

post #1160 of 3253
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Originally Posted by Sophonax View Post

  • I have a bit of a mechanical issue with my K702/65.  The small grates on the outside of both ear cups (the ones with the K702 logo on them) are a little loose, and they rattle a bit when I move my head around.  I never had this problem with any of the other K701s or K702s that I had in the past.  I can easily fix this with a bit of Loctite or hot glue or whatever, and it's not a big enough issue that I'd send the headphones back as defective.  But on principle, it irritates me a little that I'd need to fix brand new $400 headphones out of the box.

 

There has been few similar cases. I strongly advice to get them replaced. Don't see any point of keeping defective items.

post #1161 of 3253

After careful considerations of various heaphones and recommendations, I am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on some 'annies'. 

 

I am planning on running them on an O2 amp with e17 DAC.  Will this be sufficient?

 

Also, will ebay be a safe bet to buy these? Especially, as I am currently staying in Indonesia. 

 

Anyone know any stores in Indonesia or Singapore that stock them?

 

Thankyou

post #1162 of 3253
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Originally Posted by Contrails View Post

After careful considerations of various heaphones and recommendations, I am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on some 'annies'. 

 

I am planning on running them on an O2 amp with e17 DAC.  Will this be sufficient?

 

Also, will ebay be a safe bet to buy these? Especially, as I am currently staying in Indonesia. 

 

Anyone know any stores in Indonesia or Singapore that stock them?

 

Thankyou

 

Annies work fine with E17 +6db gain. If you want to use E17 as dac only I think you need L7 stereo dock cable to bybass the E17 amp. I would be really interested to hear some E17 (amp/dac) vs E17 (dac) + O2 (amp) comparisons with annies.

post #1163 of 3253

Now we have read enough impressions, especially bass department, so, how well the bass defined, detailed, articulate, deep and tight. Do you feel that bass is kicking equally, no matter which record you use or its still dependable of it? Does it have enough separation from the mids, cos I hate midbass or any other not natural mixing.

At the moment that Mad Lust Envy posted that they kick ALL THE TIME, instead of only when the source offer, I become very suspicion if they are still that linear and transparent as I really want them to be.

 

To me, when the headphones become more responding to the sent signal, like high sensitivity speakers, that's a different story when they simply umph a certain region to create extra warmth or whatever, that's what I may call fun and less natural presentation, also you may call it certain coloration, mean extra rich presentation that for example one tube have more than another, simply their nature, because they were MADE like this.

 

 

So far, I can only conclude that they have sacrificed transparency and linearity to coloration or some kind of fun factor in the sound and thats why still unsure and have  pretty mixed feelings. I kind of give up my hope to read an close review vs. K702, driving both from fairly neutral, very well matched and transparent system.

 

 

 

THX

 

p.s. On the other hand,  on AKG website, specifications are identical, except that they say to have tuned the sound for better low frequencies, so, last impressions from Sophonax are closest to that, mean, they are still the same, but with a little better lower end. If thats so, than all users try or simply expressivly driving them from warmish systems, there is no way to get from transparent headphones a warmer sound if they are drived by neutral and transparent system. My K702 are warm when the rocord is warm and they are cold when its cold, but if Annies are warmish all the time, while still transparent, well, you know the answer...


Edited by Blackmore - 2/8/13 at 4:44am
post #1164 of 3253
Wait, what? What I meant by the bass hitting at all times, I meant that it wasn't like the K701/Q701 where there were instance where subtle bass section didn't have impact, and only strong bass sections did. With the Annie, the bass whether subtle or strong is always gonna have impact. The Annie does NOT add bass where there is none.

The Annie is in no way, shape, or form, a basshead can. It's a very linear frequency curve to my ears, with maybe just a slight tip up on the bass, and smoothing on the treble. The Annie is the most balanced can I have heard to date, with an extra layer of warmth. If being warm is too colored for you, then stick to the non-Annies.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/8/13 at 4:51am
post #1165 of 3253
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Wait, what? What I meant by the bass hitting at all times, I meant that it wasn't like the K701/Q701 where there were instance where subtle bass section didn't have impact, and only strong bass sections did. With the Annie, the bass whether subtle or strong is always gonna have impact. The Annie does NOT add bass where there is none.

The Annie is in no way, shape, or form, a basshead can. It's a very linear frequency curve to my ears, with maybe just a slight tip up on the bass, and smoothing on the treble. The Annie is the most balanced can I have heard to date, with an extra layer of warmth. If being warm is too colored for you, then stick to the non-Annies.

 

Have you heard LCD-2 rev2? I am asking because your description of Annies interests me... I am searching for an open-back headphone that is sub 500USD and have calm but near-to-neutral treble with good mids and clear and tight bass (the bass itself does not necessarily need to be ultra-Audeze-flat like), with no sense of boom.

 

I am considering HD650 and K702 Annies right now...


Edited by RustA - 2/8/13 at 5:01am
post #1166 of 3253
That sounds like a good description of the Annies. The Annie has more neutrality in it's treble than the smoother and more laid back HD650.

As for the LCD2, I'm currently #2 on the Headamp loaner waiting list, so I expect to be hearing it in just over a week.
post #1167 of 3253

How does these compare to the K601? I've had my K601's for nearly 3 years now and I absolutely love them. I'm looking at getting another pair of headphones just because I'd like to try something else, though. I was set on the HD 650's as these seem to be quite different from the AKG "house sound" from what I've read, and I would like something that actually sounds a little different from my 601's. But then, these look fantastic and for my head, AKG's have close to perfect comfort. And since I already know I love the AKG sound, I'm starting to wonder if these wouldn't be a better route to explore.

 

Anyone heard both and can give me a rough comparison? I listen to pretty much all genres of music, though I suppose my main genres, at least at the moment, would be "indie rock" and ... well, black metal. 


Edited by Adrgha - 2/8/13 at 5:43am
post #1168 of 3253
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That sounds like a good description of the Annies. The Annie has more neutrality in it's treble than the smoother and more laid back HD650.

As for the LCD2, I'm currently #2 on the Headamp loaner waiting list, so I expect to be hearing it in just over a week.

 

That's great, could you please let me know when you get it? Or are you going to discuss your impressions here?

 

To clarify, I am already sure nothing can beat LCD-2 rev2 with my system since I really tuned everything to be dead-neutral to my ears (I am going to stop purchasing for a while). However, if Annies or HD650 can come close in terms of overall balance, non-fatiguing treble, nice flat mids, apparent and clear bass, my girlfriend would very appreciate that headphone! It must be an open-back headphone - and I am not sure how much "open" Mad dogs sounds... My experience with T50RP mods are that they cannot compete with my LCD-2s, and their sound is rather closed than open...


Edited by RustA - 2/8/13 at 5:55am
post #1169 of 3253
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

Have you heard LCD-2 rev2? I am asking because your description of Annies interests me... I am searching for an open-back headphone that is sub 500USD and have calm but near-to-neutral treble with good mids and clear and tight bass (the bass itself does not necessarily need to be ultra-Audeze-flat like), with no sense of boom.

 

I am considering HD650 and K702 Annies right now...

 

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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

That's great, could you please let me know when you get it? Or are you going to discuss your impressions here?

 

To clarify, I am already sure nothing can beat LCD-2 rev2 with my system since I really tuned everything to be dead-neutral to my ears (I am going to stop purchasing for a while). However, if Annies or HD650 can come close in terms of overall balance, non-fatiguing treble, nice flat mids, apparent and clear bass, my girlfriend would very appreciate that headphone! It must be an open-back headphone - and I am not sure how much "open" Mad dogs sounds... My experience with T50RP mods are that they cannot compete with my LCD-2s, and their sound is rather closed than open...

 

Tight controlled bass, sweet treble, and a lush midrange? The only thing under $500 for that is the Mad Dog headphones. There was a change in the design of them officially announced yesterday. Right now, I think this is the best headphone in the sub $500 price range. I don't know if the measurements are published yet, but you'll be shocked when you see them vs. the LCDL-2 measurements. 

post #1170 of 3253
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

 

Tight controlled bass, sweet treble, and a lush midrange? The only thing under $500 for that is the Mad Dog headphones. There was a change in the design of them officially announced yesterday. Right now, I think this is the best headphone in the sub $500 price range. I don't know if the measurements are published yet, but you'll be shocked when you see them vs. the LCDL-2 measurements. 

 

Do they sound open? From my experience with T50RP modded headphones, they provide rather "closed-in" feeling... Definitely more closed-in than for example Denons D7000. And of course LCD-2 rev2.

 

However, I am very interested in seeing the new measurement, is it going to be available somewhere? And what the change in the design involves?

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