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Okay, now you're confusing me. So here's the above information a little more verbosely, let me know if it helps.

Headphones are neither single-ended nor balanced. Those are the shorthand terms we use for describing how they connect to amps, but they don't mean quite the same things that are meant among active electronics designers (the people making the amps, DACs, etc.)

Every working speaker circuit needs two wires between amp and speaker: one + and one -. Stereo sound requires two circuits: One for the left ear, one for the right ear. Your headphone has two speakers, thus two circuits.

"Single-ended" means that the cable or plug will connect left and right channels through the - line.
"Balanced" means that the left and right channels never touch*: There has to be four wires between amp and headphone, and requires four connection points at the amp.

You can't use your Q701 with a balanced amp because the cable only has three wires in it: The - is common from the amp plug to inside the headphone shell. If you make an adaptor to use with your ALO, you'll bridge the channels, and bad things might happen**. That's it; Short of cracking the headphone open and rewiring it, you will never safely use it with a balanced amp.

If LFF is making you a headphone, you can order it with balanced wiring and this is totally okay.

*("Balanced" actually means that there are two amplification circuits per channel out of phase with each other. Speakers are passive devices reacting to an electrical signal and will react exactly the same way to exactly the same signal regardless of whether the device providing it is single-ended or balanced. "Balanced" headphone wiring only means that your headphones are wired to ensure the - does not get bridged; your average non-balanced-electronics home stereo speaker setup is wired in exactly the same way.)
**(Actually, what will probably happen is the amp will have a protection circuit that shuts it down before damage occurs, but that still means your amp isn't working.)

The original idea was for an adapter to be made so that I could use my Partadox with its SE plug with an adapter on my ALO MKIII-B to it's balanced out plug. My Paradox although it has a SE plug is currently being rewired with a mini xlr cable which is removable and can be interchanged with Audeze cables. I told LFF if he thought the adapter could be safely implemented with the Paradox to carry on. From what I've read the adapter would be a no go on my Q701 due to its cable wiring unless i had the Q701 hard wired differently from stock?


Edited by DigitalFreak - 3/27/13 at 7:32am
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Oh. My. God. I prided in myself for keeping up with English after 12 years of classes during school years and I messed up WRITE?!

 

I was gonna pretend it never happened.. but since you mentioned it, I'm obligated to quote it.  tongue.gif

 

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I played Infinite all last night, and I must say this is definitely going to be Game of the Year. Wonderful attention to detail, and the Skyhook system is a blast to use. I wish all game developers put this much thought into their games.

 

Just so you know, I'm totally happy for you, and kinda jealous.  But since I'm not picking up my copy until later on in the week, if you spoil anything for me, Ima have to skyhook yer face.  Gently and with all due respect of course.  biggrin.gif  BTW, what platform are you on?

 

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I hope that's the original 91 release not the 2009 re-release. Dynamic range went from 10 to 6.

Yep, original 1991 release. It's sounding pretty stunning on the Q701.

 

See?  Now Ima have to go dig that CD out of storage.  Y'all gone make me lose my mind up in here.

 

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@warren: Yeah, I'm feeling fine.  Also the aforementioned friend has been idle on aim for a few minutes so I assume he's well.  I just freaked out last night because his mother contacted me asking if I knew where he was.  He usually keeps in touch with her.

 

Okay!  Good to hear.  Silent and I never got very far in making that healing & pain management playlist.  I think we only got two tracks deep.  Good to hear that it's no longer necessary.  As for your buddy being okay, now you can relax a bit.  You can beat him up later for putting you through that.

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Yeah. Basically: Anything that connects one channel to another -- in other words, it goes through a three-wire line or a three-element plug like your standard 3.5mm TRS headphone plug -- has to be avoided at all costs.

If anything, you should have LFF wire up your headphones with a balanced connector (RSA if you know you're sticking with portable, otherwise 4-pin XLR), and then make a 3.5mm -> balanced adaptor. That's what will make your Paradox versatile.
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It's interesting how various albums sound at ultra-low volume. Last week I remarked that m b v sounded like folk music with occasional electric organ. Today I'm noticing that OK Computer is like two AM radios in another room.

This experiment doesn't work so well with albums that have good, natural-sounding dynamic range, since anything other than the peaks are close to inaudible.
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See?  Now Ima have to go dig that CD out of storage.  Y'all gone make me lose my mind up in here.

 

 

You've been evaluating a headphones and haven't been using Pearl Jams Ten album. For shame, get that CD and while you're at it you better be grabbing Jazz At The Pawnshop, Fat Of The Land and anything by Nik Bärtsch's Ronin. Now march soldier, you're an audiophile your final impressions mean everything

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See?  Now Ima have to go dig that CD out of storage.  Y'all gone make me lose my mind up in here.

 

You've been evaluating a headphones and haven't been using Pearl Jams Ten album. For shame, get that CD

 

I was, you know, just haven't, because, okay... redface.gif

 

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and while you're at it you better be grabbing Jazz At The Pawnshop, Fat Of The Land and anything by Nik Bärtsch's Ronin. Now march soldier, you're an audiophile your final impressions mean everything

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But, I don't even have those!  please don't hurt me...

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I am using silicon tips on the KAEDE. Do the Complys tame the trebble ?

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I think the treble balance is best with the Complys personally, but on the KAEDE it's not as big of a deal as with the SUI because the treble is better controlled anyway. On the SUI it's too glaring for me with most silicon tips I've tried.

 

As an aside, someone asked about the bass of the Flat4 versus the IE800. For me the IE800 is more problematic in the lower region for some reason. The Flat4 is definitely a bass behemoth, but something about the overall balance makes me go for the EQ less than with the IE800. Really it's a shame Sennheiser had to WUB WUB WUB out their flagship earphone. The IE800's midrange is just exquisite, so why overshadow that with all the bloat? If they could release a more linear version I think it would be a monster of an IEM.

 

My issue with Complys on the SUI is that they do more harm to the bass than good to the treble. The hybrid/silicons sound only a smidgen more treble happy to these ears, but much clearer in bass.

 

@MF, I case you're referring to my request, I actually asked whether the 1Plus2 had even more bass than the Flat4 and IE800.

 

And of course X2 on a more linear version of the IE800. Right now our best bet is to pair it with a rolled-off source, a bass light Yang for a bloated Yin. Something like the Tera Player, or the Samsung HS3000 for those who want to go wireless. Rin's FR-graph shows better than a thousand words why I love the HS3000 + IE800 combo.

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My issue with Complys on the SUI is that they do more harm to the bass than good to the treble. The hybrid/silicons sound only a smidgen more treble happy to these ears, but much clearer in bass.

@MF, I case you're referring to my request, I actually asked whether the 1Plus2 had even more bass than the Flat4 and IE800.

And of course X2 on a more linear version of the IE800. Right now our best bet is to pair it with a rolled-off source, a bass light Yang for a bloated Yin. Something like the Tera Player, or the Samsung HS3000 for those who want to go wireless. Rin's FR-graph shows better than a thousand words why I love the HS3000 + IE800 combo.
The bass on the 1plus2 is great to my ears, good level, nice punch, but with control and detail. Nowhere near as boosted as the IE800 where after the first 10 seconds I was like: too much bass.
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Oh. My. God. I prided in myself for keeping up with English after 12 years of classes during school years and I messed up WRITE?!

 

I'm that way with French, and I studied it for 14 years.  That is, when I even notice how bad I am at it....

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My issue with Complys on the SUI is that they do more harm to the bass than good to the treble. The hybrid/silicons sound only a smidgen more treble happy to these ears, but much clearer in bass.


Generally speaking I'm not at all a fan of Complys, but interestingly I'm not hearing the bass issues so much with them on my SUI or KAEDE. That is the bass response isn't problematic for me. However most other tips I've tried make the SUI almost unlistenable in terms of treble glare. I'll have to try the hybrids.

 

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@MF, I case you're referring to my request, I actually asked whether the 1Plus2 had even more bass than the Flat4 and IE800.


Sorry, I didn't see your request before now; I guess it got lost in the shufle now that this thread has picked up steam again.

 

The 1Plus2 does not have more bass overall than the Flat4 or IE800 thank God. Or in this case: thank Gavin. It can pump out more high quality sub bass than just about any IEM when the track calls for it however. It has one of the most visceral and speaker-like bass responses of any IEM I've come across.

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The Birthday Party's The Bad Seed / Mutiny in Heaven doesn't really work with the ultra-low volume treatment. It's a quieter version of The Birthday Party, nothing else.

Rowland S Howard's guitar and Nick Cave's voice are too potent to transform into something else by dilution.
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A word of warning to people interested in BioShock Infinite: avoid the comments sections of reviews for the game. Some clown tools think they're being clever trolls by spoiling major plot points.

 

I can't imagine how terrible it must be to be the sort of person who is simultaneously so miserable and uncreative that they manage to derive a modicum of fleeting satisfaction from doing stuff like that. It's about as tired and possesses as much false "edginess" as tweens who draw their favorite anime characters dressed as Nazis on DeviantArt, only without even the infinitesimally slight whiff of higher functioning that requires.

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I haven't even read any reviews yet. 

 

Also, my SR009's came in early.  Wish I could do something with them.

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A word of warning to people interested in BioShock Infinite: avoid the comments sections of reviews for the game. Some clown tools think they're being clever trolls by spoiling major plot points.

 

Thanks for the heads up there.  I've been trying hard to avoid any mention of the game's details anywhere.  It's been tough, but it's for my own good.  smile.gif

 

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I can't imagine how terrible it must be to be the sort of person who is simultaneously so miserable and uncreative that they manage to derive a modicum of fleeting satisfaction from doing stuff like that. It's about as tired and possesses as much false "edginess" as tweens who draw their favorite anime characters dressed as Nazis on DeviantArt, only without even the infinitesimally slight whiff of higher functioning that requires.

 

And to think... their only motivation is [probably] to convey that they own the game already.  Wow, great job ******, you know how to spend $60!  rolleyes.gif

 

BTW, sorry that you had to find out about the spoilers-in-comments by actually reading the spoilers-in-comments.  frown.gif

 

EDIT:  Okay, apparently the word for a feminine rinse is censored... unless preceeded by "nwav"

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

A word of warning to people interested in BioShock Infinite: avoid the comments sections of reviews for the game. Some clown tools think they're being clever trolls by spoiling major plot points.

 

I can't imagine how terrible it must be to be the sort of person who is simultaneously so miserable and uncreative that they manage to derive a modicum of fleeting satisfaction from doing stuff like that. It's about as tired and possesses as much false "edginess" as tweens who draw their favorite anime characters dressed as Nazis on DeviantArt, only without even the infinitesimally slight whiff of higher functioning that requires.

 

I try to avoide game reviews altogether. They spoil it for me by making me expect things going into a game. I just look at the overall numerical score to see if they think it's worth playing.

 

 


 

 

In other news, I really like this whole tube thing...

 

 

 

 

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