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Play it on the biggest screen you have access to and crank the sound. If this doesn't make you feel like a dopey kid again with its sheer artistry and imagination, you are just stone cold and dead to the world
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Got dang double
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Welcome to my wife's life.  People either think we are kidding or that she is stupid...

 

That makes me sad... frown.gif

 

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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

Such a strange feeling listening to the MDR7550 after days of using my Nami-chan (a BMF DBV #3 T50RP mod), the RHA MA350 and occasionally the JVC FXT90, in that the Sony sounds stuffy and w/ recessed mids. I know this to be not true though, and just reminds me of how powerful our brain is.

But I still miss that MDR7550 sound, so Brain, work faster!!

 

So going by that... if I invest in a pair of truly craptastic IEMs, maybe the rest of my collection will sound heavenly?  wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

My MBV record showed up finally. I'm also waiting for Low's new album to arrive.

 

 

They all look so pretty... normal_smile%20.gif

 

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Originally Posted by 333jeffery View Post

Amazon says my copy of Infinite should be here in the morning. w00t!

 

You...  :: wags a jealous finger at Jeffrey ::  tongue.gif

 

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But why?  Why was the ass fat?  And also, I don't know this meme.

 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Catching up on something I meant to post earlier.

 

The perceived spatial character of audio gear---IEMs in particular---is a subject that fascinates me to almost no end. There's certainly a whole plethora of variables at work, and our minds are basically taking signals and constructing an itty bitty aural microcosm from certain cues. I think this makes it one of the most personal and subsequently difficult to discuss aspects of this hobby. I used to have discussions with kiteki about a certain type of presentation one finds among some in-ear monitors: a certain "heady" quality that translates into an intercranial aural microcosm of sorts. It's a quality I happen to like quite a bit.

 

I think an important distinction should be made here. On some transducers with phase issues, it sounds like two little speakers piping music into your ears; it's localized and lacks that illusion of space. For whatever reason our brains have more trouble making a cohesive whole out of it. When people speak of this, they sometimes say it sounds like it's "in their head" and they very much mean this in a negative context. That's not what I'm talking about here however. With certain earphones there's a quality I've taken to calling interior depth. It's "in the head" so to speak, but it's still a convincing illusion of space. For lack of a better descriptor: one seems to plumb the depths of a track without actually going anywhere. This is how I hear the Phonak Audeo PFE232. It's also how I hear the Flat4. With the Flat4, I don't hear an expansive out-of-head type of presentation. It definitely sounds large in scale, but for me it's still in a certain headspace.

 

To better explain, I'll compare it to the 1Plus2 which I feel is sort of the opposite of the Flat4 in terms of presentation. With the 1Plus2 I feel as though I'm most certainly in the audience observing a performance. The soundscape is always relative to my position: it's taking place in front of me, to the sides, etc. This is what I call "out of head." In fact, the 1Plus2 is one of the most "out of head" ear monitors I've ever heard. It's like sitting in a room with very high-end speakers and professional room treatments. There's a definite distance between me and the performance. I think Tom nailed a head with a hit when he said it's like being enthroned on a grand seat in a concert hall.

 

So now the Flat4. I never get a sense of an immediate relationship between my position as observer and the soundfield as a separate entity. Everything that happens does so more as a dream unfolds than as a performance on some stage relative to a viewer. It's as if the music is unfolding without me, and indeed If I forget myself for a moment and concentrate on the music I find that in a glorious moment of the ego's dissolution, I insofar as I am "me" have been replaced by an oceanic expanse, the rotary pulsation of soundwaves expanding and contracting on the shores of consciousness. As soon as I am reminded that there must be some observer, I realize that my only plausible position is outside looking in: the God's eye view. There is a vast expanse, but it has never actually left the confines of my ego's border. That vastness---the sense of scope you might call the "stage" of the music---is merely another detail in a crystal flower forever growing through folding, unfolding, and re-folding like infinite origami.

 

That's what intrigues me so much about the Floats. They seem to do both of these things simultaneously, cutting through my head like I wasn't even there while still maintaining a definite exterior relative to my position. It's as if I'm in the midst of a performance, but haunting it as a restless spook. Voices in particular seem to pass right through me. It's delightfully unnerving.

 

I don't for a moment harbor the assumption that anyone else hears things this way. I just thought I'd finally [try] to articulate something I've been meaning to for a while now, regardless of how obfuscatory it ends up being by necessity.

 

Leeroyyyy uh-Jennkkinnnss!!!  biggrin.gif

 

First of all, just wanted to say thanks for that.  In reading earlier descriptions of the phenomena, I've decided that this will be one of those things that I will need to relate to via experience.  For me, the Flat4 will be the single most expensive bit of kit for me to date.  Understandably, I'll probably have to wait a bit until I've got enough budgeted aside for it.  Just hoping I can get into it before y'all move to Flat8s.

 

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These are apparently useful... for something? Some kind of room treatment. Bass traps in the shape of a tea ceremony set? Audiophile magic at its best.

 

Next you'll be telling me that they're exhorbitantly expensive, probably because they have to make up for only 1:3,565,800 people buying them.

 

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Wait, you guys serious on getting discounts for CIEMs during meats meets? eek.gif mind=blown

 

Does it work like that for other gear too?

 

It's not consistent for non-CIEM products.  For example, at the 2012 L.A. Meet, Mr. Speakers was giving about 20% off Mad Dogs.  But at the most recent S.F. Meet (Changfest), he wasn't. 

 

As for CIEMs, I didn't check on UE at either meet because sound dialy machine thing + free audiolgist + probable discount = trouble for the wallet.

 

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

 

tbh even as a child I've never been able to stomach those sugary abomination. Sadly us Canadians will continue to have them available and produced.

 

I'm sorry, what was that?  How is that possible?

 

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I'm a be part of this thread now... biggrin.gif

 

Okay!  smile.gif

 

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Like the way your avi turned out! 

 

It is pretty darn cute isn't it?


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Well haven't used the Dell 3007 in quite some time. On 2560 by 1600 it is by far the most immersive experience I'd had in gaming :).
 

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I'm a be part of this thread now... biggrin.gif

 

That is probably the most forward introdution to this thread yet!

 

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Well haven't used the Dell 3007 in quite some time. On 2560 by 1600 it is by far the most immersive experience I'd had in gaming :).

 

The most immersive experience I've ever had is playing slightly with the HMZ-T2. Though I didn't really try it long enough to become un-immersed due to comfort issues.

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Pineapple and gin? :P.

 

I remember eating  too much pineapple and it making my mouth raw. Kinda like eating too many funions lol.

I'm not a fan of alcohol and fast cars. Of course having them together would be foolhardy but even whilst separate I can't warm up to either.

 

But pineapples all day. Add some salt and it gets rid of the rawness and tingle real fast.

 

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I'm sorry, what was that?  How is that possible?

Which part? The part where I profess my true, self-hateful tendencies and swear off my own kind forever? That part?

 

I don't like them. I think they have a weird aftertaste. I also like keeping my arteries unclogged for future....business transactions (the customers want quality). I never understood the popularity. But it had good potential as an arbitrary symbol for randomness at the time, hence the username. Also I like replacing k's with Q's. I'm fanatical for the letter Q. Qt, queries, Q as in the James Bond Q. It's the greatest letter in the alphabet and I am willing to face a fight to the death against anyone that disagrees.

 

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Well haven't used the Dell 3007 in quite some time. On 2560 by 1600 it is by far the most immersive experience I'd had in gaming :).

Pentium 4s.

coughnochanceforgamingherecough

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Cool so that is that like 3D/virtual reality type stuff? :). My Ben Q monitor is 3D capable but I think I need nVidia hardware to utilize it. Had too many issues with that company to go green again lol.
 

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I'm not a fan of alcohol and fast cars. Of course having them together would be foolhardy but even whilst separate I can't warm up to either.

 

But pineapples all day. Add some salt and it gets rid of the rawness and tingle real fast.

 

Which part? The part where I profess my true, self-hateful tendencies and swear off my own kind forever? That part?

 

I don't like them. I think they have a weird aftertaste. I also like keeping my arteries unclogged for future....business transactions (the customers want quality). I never understood the popularity. But it had good potential as an arbitrary symbol for randomness at the time, hence the username. Also I like replacing k's with Q's. I'm fanatical for the letter Q. Qt, queries, Q as in the James Bond Q. It's the greatest letter in the alphabet and I am willing to face a fight to the death against anyone that disagrees.

 

Pentium 4s.

coughnochanceforgamingherecough


lol time to upgrade your CPU :P. I had a Pentium 4 back in High school :P. It did the trick for school work but I never used it for gaming. Then got the first Dual core (Pentium D).


Regarding drinking. Well I'm not much of one myself. Barely ever do but once in a while :). Li Hing Mui powder goes good on Pineapple. It even goes good on that sour watermelon candy. Dammit I'm salivating now :P.

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@warren, you're implying that Nami-chan, the MA350 and the FXT90 are crap, which they are not.
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Catching up on something I meant to post earlier.
IEM musings (Click to show)
The perceived spatial character of audio gear---IEMs in particular---is a subject that fascinates me to almost no end. There's certainly a whole plethora of variables at work, and our minds are basically taking signals and constructing an itty bitty aural microcosm from certain cues. I think this makes it one of the most personal and subsequently difficult to discuss aspects of this hobby. I used to have discussions with kiteki about a certain type of presentation one finds among some in-ear monitors: a certain "heady" quality that translates into an intercranial aural microcosm of sorts. It's a quality I happen to like quite a bit.

I think an important distinction should be made here. On some transducers with phase issues, it sounds like two little speakers piping music into your ears; it's localized and lacks that illusion of space. For whatever reason our brains have more trouble making a cohesive whole out of it. When people speak of this, they sometimes say it sounds like it's "in their head" and they very much mean this in a negative context. That's not what I'm talking about here however. With certain earphones there's a quality I've taken to calling interior depth. It's "in the head" so to speak, but it's still a convincing illusion of space. For lack of a better descriptor: one seems to plumb the depths of a track without actually going anywhere. This is how I hear the Phonak Audeo PFE232. It's also how I hear the Flat4. With the Flat4, I don't hear an expansive out-of-head type of presentation. It definitely sounds large in scale, but for me it's still in a certain headspace.

To better explain, I'll compare it to the 1Plus2 which I feel is sort of the opposite of the Flat4 in terms of presentation. With the 1Plus2 I feel as though I'm most certainly in the audience observing a performance. The soundscape is always relative to my position: it's taking place in front of me, to the sides, etc. This is what I call "out of head." In fact, the 1Plus2 is one of the most "out of head" ear monitors I've ever heard. It's like sitting in a room with very high-end speakers and professional room treatments. There's a definite distance between me and the performance. I think Tom nailed a head with a hit when he said it's like being enthroned on a grand seat in a concert hall.

So now the Flat4. I never get a sense of an immediate relationship between my position as observer and the soundfield as a separate entity. Everything that happens does so more as a dream unfolds than as a performance on some stage relative to a viewer. It's as if the music is unfolding without me, and indeed If I forget myself for a moment and concentrate on the music I find that in a glorious moment of the ego's dissolution, I insofar as I am "me" have been replaced by an oceanic expanse, the rotary pulsation of soundwaves expanding and contracting on the shores of consciousness. As soon as I am reminded that there must be some observer, I realize that my only plausible position is outside looking in: the God's eye view. There is a vast expanse, but it has never actually left the confines of my ego's border. That vastness---the sense of scope you might call the "stage" of the music---is merely another detail in a crystal flower forever growing through folding, unfolding, and re-folding like infinite origami.

That's what intrigues me so much about the Floats. They seem to do both of these things simultaneously, cutting through my head like I wasn't even there while still maintaining a definite exterior relative to my position. It's as if I'm in the midst of a performance, but haunting it as a restless spook. Voices in particular seem to pass right through me. It's delightfully unnerving.

I don't for a moment harbor the assumption that anyone else hears things this way. I just thought I'd finally [try] to articulate something I've been meaning to for a while now, regardless of how obfuscatory it ends up being by necessity.

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lol time to upgrade your CPU :P. I had a Pentium 4 back in High school :P. It did the trick for school work but I never used it for gaming. Then got the first Dual core (Pentium D).


Regarding drinking. Well I'm not much of one myself. Barely ever do but once in a while :). Li Hing Mui powder goes good on Pineapple. It even goes good on that sour watermelon candy. Dammit I'm salivating now :P.

Self-masochist. I like having limitations. Everything apart from the family desktop and my Lappie is < P4. Netbook's a Celeron (original), a couple of P2s, P3s. Nothing AMD (not intentional atm). One advantage is low-power consumption (as I have all 8-9 on at the same time for various reasons), low-cost ($50 a pop for one machine, get a cluster for under a grand easy), educational purposes (getting busybox + musl to work with Exherbo was enlightening), recyclable parts (I now probably have more wireless cards than anyone else alive), forced awareness of resources so that you squeeze out more productivity per MiB. Oh, and no fans, so quiet as a whisper (I keep my stuff in good condition so no weird clinky-clanky noises).

 

Another pineapple convert? :D

I've been getting into baking, why I'm stuck on pineapples atm. All that talk about food at 2am does not help though :P

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@warren, you're implying that Nami-chan, the MA350 and the FXT90 are crap, which they are not.

 

LOL, no.  Wait, I thought you were implying that the 7550 was less impressive than you remembered?  Anywho, I'm actually implying that the more crappier stuff that I've got, will make the less-crappier stuff I've got sound even less crappier.  smile.gif  It's science.


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post #9028 of 21760

I'm making me a honey smoked ham sandwich with some mayo and Swiss cheese :). I actually haven't had pineapple in a long time. For some reason a lot of people don't like pineapple lol. I think it's due to it being rather strong and acidic. I like it though. I remember having pineapple and peperoni pizza a long ago.. I think it was from Domino's or little Cesar's (pizza pizza :P)..
 


Edited by lee730 - 3/26/13 at 2:38am
post #9029 of 21760

Just put down an order for the AD1000X. The Amazon Japan prices seem so low for them atm I couldn't resist. I have no idea what they will sound like since everyone either seems to go for the AD900X or pay the extra for the AD2000X... I'm hoping the AD1000X is the darker of the three.

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LOL, no.  Wait, I thought you were implying that the 7550 was less impressive than you remembered?  Anywho, I'm actually implying that the more crappier stuff that I've got, will make the less-crappier stuff I've got sound even less crappier.  smile.gif   It's science.

Agreed and agreed. She's just larger than life and without a good night's sleep, she'll just give you a false impression. wink.gif

In fact most that went on The Journey was probably the victim of science and greed: crap stuff making marginal increases sounds earth-shattering and greed made them spend haphazardly for that Objet petit A in a destructive spiral.
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