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I'm thinking about building myself a desktop/tower monster.

 

Do you guys think it'd be better to have one GTX 690 or two 680 in SLI or perhaps a three-way 670 SLI? The thing about the GTX 690 is that it is so expensive. Should I go the 680 road, I could snag another 680 later on for less money than another 690, making it a three-way 680 SLI.

 

I know I'm talking about overkill here, but that's also kind of the purpose; I want to build my own little monster with overkill CPU, GPU, RAM, SSDs in raid 0 and so on.

 

 

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I won't use it for Facebook games wink.gif


Edited by Coq de Combat - 9/17/12 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Meh, no real reason I guess. I just liked what I heard from the 250 ohm version and I'm curious to hear the 600 ohm version. I've read somewhere on here the 600 ohm version sounded more refined.

 

It shouldn't matter too much between the 250 and 600.  FWIW I did hear a 990/250 and a 990/600 on the same day once with the same source but different amps (most people would probably consider the 250's amp to be "better," but I don't really know myself) and I thought the 600 sounded much better.  Other people have reported they're almost identical sounding.  Could be product variation (OTOH Tylls numbers on the 32, 250, and 600 ohm 880s are very consistent and they're completely different drivers...), could have been in my head, could have been the amp, who knows?

 

If like me, you're the kind of person who always worries about "what if?" you might as well get the 600s since they usually aren't too much more expensive than the 250s.

 

From a more practical point of view, the 600 ohm version will just need a bit more voltage to get loud than the 250.  With some amps (tube or SS) the 600 will sound better just because it has a higher impedance with similar efficiency.  Amps usually produce more distortion the more current they're asked to deliver and the 600's higher impedance at about the same efficiency trade away current draw for a higher voltage requirement.  It's basically just being more polite to the amp.

 

You may want to consider the 990 Pros.  I haven't head them myself, but they're supposed to be the 250 ohm drivers in an uglier shell with a tighter clamping head band that make it a little less comfy but adds a little bass and smooths out the treble a bit from pushing the drivers close to your ears.

 

I really wish I liked the DT990 just because it looks so damn cool.  Especially the manufactur in matte black and chrome...

 

 

 

Also not to sound like I'm trying to give you a hard sell or anything but I've been meaning to sell my Bottlehead Crack since I've sold most of the headphones I had that were suited to it but have never got around to prettying it up and posting an ad.  If you decide you want one and aren't up to the DIY I could give you a deal on mine.  I can even stain/paint the base whatever style/color/finish you like since I keep putting that off too.  My procrastination know no bounds, so don't feel pressured for time...

 

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

Originally I was talking about individual views and attitudes in response to what you were saying, merely pointing out that they were still around even in contemporary times. I think such views have existed throughout history, to varying degrees, and social institutions are one type of manifestation of them (which in turn influence the individual).

 

Obviously trying to speak of the prevalence of such views among individuals in contemporary times would be speculation on both our parts, however unlike some "archaic" views like thinking the world is flat or that yetis exist, such views are no mere eccentricity, as they are held by individuals who will inevitably come into contact with women in their personal lives, be it a coworker or girlfriend or wife or daughter. Also whether or not it's a "normative" view in certain cultures today or not, I think the frequency with which such atrocities as the ones I mentioned before still occur is unsettling. It's wide spread enough.

 

I don't even know what we were supposed to arguing about anymore.  It probably doesn't even matter.  Maybe we can boil it down to what does matter?

 

We've made good progress for women's rights in the "west" but there are still a few more things to fix around here.  There are also large portions of the world where women lack even basic freedoms and that needs to be fixed too.

 

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Right?  Maybe?

 

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I've never been into Facebook. I liked Live_Journal back in the day, before it became a ghost town. It was fun connecting to people in various groups, and I discovered a *ton* of amazingly literature, film, and music that way. Also, it seems to me like the LJ format was more accommodating to writers and those who like expressing themselves in text versus Tumblr which seems more visually oriented, more appealing for those into the visual mediums.

 

Live Journal is for writers.  Tumblr is for artists and photographers.

 

Facebook and twitter must be for meth-addicted squirrels or something...

 

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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

Google+ has some of the air of Livejournal in its heyday. It defiinitely has the potential, in terms of community and posting structure. For example, you have explicit control over who you see and who can see you, you can construct group sets and fragment your online identity in any way you see fit (so like, in my previous comment, any audio-related posts I make need only be limited to the people I've marked as wanting to read them). It's probably not a total coincidence that bradfitz has been a googler since he parted ways with 6A. (Edit: To the best of my knowledge, he's not directly involved in G+; I'd be surprised if he wasn't consulted with while the circles and privacy methods were designed, though, since it inherits more from LJ's friends/followers system than from most other social networks I've used or read about.)
There's a lot of baggage and Major Social Media Platform context to G+ that will prevent it from ever being Livejournal II, though. Not least because it was at the nexus of the nymwars a year-and-change ago, and because there's been active effort in the past to keep the community from getting too weird; I won't expect a vigorous and vocal furry community to develop there, for example.
Dreamwidth is better-positioned as the direct inheritor of LJ's western-hemisphere userbase of outlier demographics, but it is probably too late for it to be more than a nostalgia trip for some people.

 

You had me curious about G+ right up until the nymwars...

 

That incident seems to have flown under my usual not-giving-a-crap-about-social-networking radar...

post #693 of 21760
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

I'm thinking about building myself a desktop/tower monster.

Do you guys think it'd be better to have one GTX 690 or two 680 in SLI or perhaps a three-way 670 SLI? The thing about the GTX 690 is that it is so expensive. Should I go the 680 road, I could snag another 680 later on for less money than another 690, making it a three-way 680 SLI.

I know I'm talking about overkill here, but that's also kind of the purpose; I want to build my own little monster with overkill CPU, GPU, RAM, SSDs in raid 0 and so on.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I won't use it for Facebook games wink.gif

I don't know the answer to your question, but don't forget to make sure you get enough power supply & cooling to feed a 2-way or 3-way SLI config. You'll probably be able to roast marshmallows on that thing...
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post


I don't know the answer to your question, but don't forget to make sure you get enough power supply & cooling to feed a 2-way or 3-way SLI config. You'll probably be able to roast marshmallows on that thing...

Yeah, I've had enough of heating problems so cooling is the last thing I'd forget. Though I'm really on the fence about choosing between water cooling or conventional fans. Water cooling seems to be the way to go, but I'd feel a little paranoid knowing I'd have water inside of my computer.

 

The thing about heating/cooling has actually struck me more than once: I'm thinking that if I choose to go with only one 690 instead of SLI:ing several lesser GPUs, then heating should naturally be less of a problem. One card versus several on top of each other sounds like the optimal solution when thinking of airflows and such. That is, if I don't bite the bullet and go with water cooling anyway.

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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

I'm thinking about building myself a desktop/tower monster.

 

Do you guys think it'd be better to have one GTX 690 or two 680 in SLI or perhaps a three-way 670 SLI? The thing about the GTX 690 is that it is so expensive. Should I go the 680 road, I could snag another 680 later on for less money than another 690, making it a three-way 680 SLI.

 

I know I'm talking about overkill here, but that's also kind of the purpose; I want to build my own little monster with overkill CPU, GPU, RAM, SSDs in raid 0 and so on.

 

That sound like overkill.  It sure is fun though.

 

I don't really keep up with the latest hardware though so I couldn't tell you much about GPUs.  I just recently got a GTX 550Ti which is pretty old news.  The 8800 GT it replace died suddenly and I just needed something cheap that wouldn't choke on newer games.  I'm still rockin' a CRT monitor so if I need to boost the frame rate I can just turn turn down resolution in nice little steps without having to worry about scaling issues.

 

My CPU and mobo are more than 3 years old now but I still rarely find anything that challenges my i7 920 with it's 50% overclock and 3.9ghz clock speed.  It's been rock solid stable at that level for the whole 3 years too.  I'm pretty amazed that it doesn't feel old and slow after all this time.

 

My last upgrade was an Intel 520 Series 180gb SSD.  Since I'm paranoid and use TryeCrypt WDE it strangle it's performance potential but it still beats the crap out of the WD 74gb 10krpm VelociRaptor it replaced.  You can run into similar issues RAID-ing SSDs since most RAID controllers won't pass trim commands to the actual disks.  The disks need to be over-provisioned so they've always got empty cells to write to and having to erase it right before they write to it slows thing down a lot.

 

In my case it's even worse.  First I have to disable trim since it's an attack vector and over-provision the drive.  What's even worse is that all the hot new super-fast SSD chipsets use on the fly compression to speed up reads and writes which doesn't play well with encrypted data since it already have nearly maximum entropy anyway...

 

You probably already knew some or all of that but I felt like rambling...

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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

I'm thinking about building myself a desktop/tower monster.

 

Do you guys think it'd be better to have one GTX 690 or two 680 in SLI or perhaps a three-way 670 SLI? The thing about the GTX 690 is that it is so expensive. Should I go the 680 road, I could snag another 680 later on for less money than another 690, making it a three-way 680 SLI.

 

I know I'm talking about overkill here, but that's also kind of the purpose; I want to build my own little monster with overkill CPU, GPU, RAM, SSDs in raid 0 and so on.

 

 

 

 

That depends. Do you know if the 690 uses SLI? If it doesn't, I'd personally go the 690 route to avoid all the driver issues associated with SLI. Also, since it's one PCB, it'd probably use less power, and it wouldn't hog as much space as two separate 680s.

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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post

 

The 8800 GT it replace died suddenly

 

Were you getting artifacts, black screens, or was the system just freezing?

 

If it was any of those, you can probably revive your card by stripping it down to the PCB, removing all paste and memory pads, and baking at 420 F for 10-12 mins. That'll let the solder joints reflow, and you'll have your card back. I've done it several times for friends whose PCs crapped out on them.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Were you getting artifacts, black screens, or was the system just freezing?

 

If it was any of those, you can probably revive your card by stripping it down to the PCB, removing all paste and memory pads, and baking at 420 F for 10-12 mins. That'll let the solder joints reflow, and you'll have your card back. I've done it several times for friends whose PCs crapped out on them.

 

Nothing at all.  The motherboard didn't even see it anymore.

 

I'll keep the DIY reflow idea in mind for the next time all other hope is lost.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Were you getting artifacts, black screens, or was the system just freezing?

If it was any of those, you can probably revive your card by stripping it down to the PCB, removing all paste and memory pads, and baking at 420 F for 10-12 mins. That'll let the solder joints reflow, and you'll have your card back. I've done it several times for friends whose PCs crapped out on them.

As long as you don't overdo it and the solder flows into a bridge. Also, be careful of small insulated wire jumpers - you can bake the insulation off the wire at a spot and create an opportunity for a short. Home oven temp controls are notoriously inaccurate - a small, cheap oven thermometer is probably a good idea.
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My buddy got around to posting some pics of the headphone meet I attended yesterday. There was only a half dozen of us so we decided to just set up our gear in the garage and do a BBQ while we played around with gear. It was far from a fancy affair but it was a very fun time and I enjoyed myself immensely. It was also nice to finally be able to meet some of the local head-fiers in my city and see the faces behind the posts on head-fi. Besides the HE-6 being a huge hit the home made apple pie by Armaegis was also a huge hit amongst all the head-fiers. Many thanks and respect goes out to Armaegis for setting up and hosting the meet. Feel free to click on the pics to enlarge and get a better view of the gear. Oh by the way, the second last pic showing the guy messing on the netbook holding the DT 990, that's my arm and leg lol

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by DigitalFreak - 9/17/12 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post

 

That sound like overkill.  It sure is fun though.

 

I don't really keep up with the latest hardware though so I couldn't tell you much about GPUs.  I just recently got a GTX 550Ti which is pretty old news.  The 8800 GT it replace died suddenly and I just needed something cheap that wouldn't choke on newer games.  I'm still rockin' a CRT monitor so if I need to boost the frame rate I can just turn turn down resolution in nice little steps without having to worry about scaling issues.

 

My CPU and mobo are more than 3 years old now but I still rarely find anything that challenges my i7 920 with it's 50% overclock and 3.9ghz clock speed.  It's been rock solid stable at that level for the whole 3 years too.  I'm pretty amazed that it doesn't feel old and slow after all this time.

 

My last upgrade was an Intel 520 Series 180gb SSD.  Since I'm paranoid and use TryeCrypt WDE it strangle it's performance potential but it still beats the crap out of the WD 74gb 10krpm VelociRaptor it replaced.  You can run into similar issues RAID-ing SSDs since most RAID controllers won't pass trim commands to the actual disks.  The disks need to be over-provisioned so they've always got empty cells to write to and having to erase it right before they write to it slows thing down a lot.

 

In my case it's even worse.  First I have to disable trim since it's an attack vector and over-provision the drive.  What's even worse is that all the hot new super-fast SSD chipsets use on the fly compression to speed up reads and writes which doesn't play well with encrypted data since it already have nearly maximum entropy anyway...

 

You probably already knew some or all of that but I felt like rambling...

Yeah, overkill is the name of the game. Needless to say but this will not only serve as my super duper mega monster desktop, but also as my gaming rig, and so on.

 

I actually did not know about that when it comes to SSDs. Here's the thing, it has been a long ago since I built my last PC (apart from the life saving upgrades I had to do a couple of years ago because the mobo got fried). So, you mean to tell me that RAID-ing SSDs can become problematic? The thing is that newer laptops come with SSDs in RAID 0. For example the unreleased Asus Zenbook U500 (very promising looking ultrabook that actually packs a punch), and the gaming laptop MSI GT70-0NE. I know this because I am also planning on buying myself a new laptop as well, because my old Vaio is pretty much poo at this point. It's tired. It needs to become my wifes surfing laptop and not a laptop with lots of programming and other heavier tasks, so to say.

 

Thanks for letting me know about RAID-issues with SSDs. I might just have to plan on getting a bigger SSD along with one or two mechanical storage HDDs.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

That depends. Do you know if the 690 uses SLI? If it doesn't, I'd personally go the 690 route to avoid all the driver issues associated with SLI. Also, since it's one PCB, it'd probably use less power, and it wouldn't hog as much space as two separate 680s.

The 690 is just one card, that is capable of SLI (up to quad I believe). That's another good point about the drivers. Sounds more and more like I should aim for the $1000 690.

 

It's actually the fastest card on the market today, so I'm kind of putting my trust in it being able to at least work with gaming a few years down the road. I know I shouldn't think like that, but I mean, my old 9500 gt actually works with games that are only a couple of years old, and it was FAR from being a high-end GPU at the time. Should I buy the 690, it'd better work with games for a couple of years.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

[Lots of fun pictures...]

 

 

 

Sounds like you guys had some fun times over there with BBQ and headphones!

 

...but what a cable mess! eek.gif


Edited by Coq de Combat - 9/17/12 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

 SSDs. 

 

The 690 is just one card, that is capable of SLI (up to quad I believe). That's another good point about the drivers. Sounds more and more like I should aim for the $1000 690.

 

It's actually the fastest card on the market today, so I'm kind of putting my trust in it being able to at least work with gaming a few years down the road. I know I shouldn't think like that, but I mean, my old 9500 gt actually works with games that are only a couple of years old, and it was FAR from being a high-end GPU at the time. Should I buy the 690, it'd better work with games for a couple of years.

 

 

 

 

The 690 should be as future proof as they come. With this new Kepler architecture, I see awesome possibilities. My laptop's GTX 260m can run most games on high detail, 1050p, with a dash of AA thrown in there. I'd worry more about DirectX 13 compatibility though.

 

If you do get the 690, PLEASE let me come to your house and play Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3.

 

Getting an SSD was the best computer upgrade decision I've ever made. I've become so accustomed to the speed that even 10K RPM HDDs are frustrating to use.


Edited by eke2k6 - 9/17/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

The 690 should be as future proof as they come. With this new Kepler architecture, I see awesome possibilities. My laptop's GTX 260m can run most games on high detail, 1050p, with a dash of AA thrown in there. I'd worry more about DirectX 13 compatibility though.

 

If you do get the 690, PLEASE let me come to your house and play Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3.

 

Getting an SSD was the best computer upgrade decision I've ever made. I've become so accustomed to the speed that even 10K RPM HDDs are frustrating to use.

That's what's makes the 690 even more intriguing, the kepler arcitecture. Not only does it provide better performance, but it should also draw less power and generate less heat. In practise though, I'm pretty sure that it will generate heat when under load.

 

If I do get the 690, which I'm kind of set on to do, you're more than welcome to play those games. But, an airplane ticket to Sweden might cost as much as a new 690 so it'd be smarter to get one yourself, LOL. I'm kind of setting the goal to build this rig to about christmas time, or january. That's depending on whether I find the need of a decent laptop more important than a gaming rig. The battery life on my current Vaio is about 10-15 mins under power saver mode, so it's very, very possible that I get myself a new laptop first.

 

As for the SSD, yeah I figure it's pretty much a must nowadays. I'm actually sitting on a 5400 RPM HDD right now, so I'm kind of thinking that whatever SSD solution I get, it'll be more than enough of an upgrade to bring a smile on my face. My current desktop is absolutely hideous to start now. Let's put it this way: I often go out to take a smoke while it's starting up so it's ready when I get back.

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The GTX 780 will be out in just a few months, so I wouldn't put too much money in videocards until then.

Anyone here playing Black Mesa? Here's some comparison footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2TI4KWbYFs&feature=youtu.be

So far, it's a blast. Plenty of great memories from playing the original in college.

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Originally Posted by 333jeffery View Post

The GTX 780 will be out in just a few months, so I wouldn't put too much money in videocards until then.

Anyone here playing Black Mesa? Here's some comparison footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2TI4KWbYFs&feature=youtu.be

So far, it's a blast. Plenty of great memories from playing the original in college.

Sounds like it would fit well with buying an ultrabook first. Thanks for the tip.

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