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Thanks for the explanation. Then you should definitely read the manga Coq de Combat, as it starts off in the world of Combat Karaté then evolves towards free fight and is just great. It is nothing like Gaston Lagaffe though :)

 

That looks very stylish and artistic. I would love to try reading it. I'm not too experienced at reading manga though. I never really understood how they are supposed to be read. 

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I'm not too keen on warm weather at all. Not too cold either. When you walk outside in a sweater in the spring, that's when it's perfect. Not too cold, not too hot, just perfect.

 

I wish we had spring weather in Jakarta. :(

But then again, it's impossible. Oh well, scorching hot season and monsoon rain season with massive traffic jams is fine for me...

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I'm not too keen on warm weather at all. Not too cold either. When you walk outside in a sweater in the spring, that's when it's perfect. Not too cold, not too hot, just perfect.


If you have to wear a sweater I don't find that ideal either ;). I tend to like to be casual. T-shirt and shorts are good for me :P.

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Lay those down on the table cafe side and they'll bring you plenty of conversation and perhaps complimentary drinks.

 

Just don't do it at DF's cafe. You might have to tackle a transient who attempts to pilfer them.

 

 


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Flat4 it is then.  Wait, the Kaede or the Sui?  I ask because you listed both.  I'm guessing the Kaede since autumnholy is pretty clear on the Sui being noticeably V-shaped.

 

They're actually pretty similar to my ears. The KAEDE eliminates the slight glare on the SUI's treble, and it has a really fancy wood housing, but it costs twice as much. My default recommendation is for the SUI as a result.

 

I assumed you read some of my impressions for the Flat4, otherwise I would have mentioned it was U-shaped.

 

It's U-shaped.

 

The bass quantity is pretty sizable, the treble fairly bright. Mids are not recessed however. Like I said in my impressions, it's similar to the TH900 in that it's "fun" while still being a reference-grade listen. It excels at extracting low-level information and inner dynamics. Like, to an almost freaky level.

 

It's not at all "accurate" however. It's larger than life. Hyperreal.

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I wish we had spring weather in Jakarta. :(

But then again, it's impossible. Oh well, scorching hot season and monsoon rain season with massive traffic jams is fine for me...

It's kind of exciting though that we have different kinds of weathers depending on where we live though, isn't it? We really have the "four seasons" with a hot summer, cold snowy winter, perfect spring and a rainy autumn. A guy at work from venezuela explained that they don't really divide it into four seasons, but only two: dry season and wet season.

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If you have to wear a sweater I don't find that ideal either ;). I tend to like to be casual. T-shirt and shorts are good for me :P.

T-shirt and shorts weather is too hot for me. I wish there would be some kind of paradise island where it's spring all the time. That "just enough" weather that I find perfect. Then I wish they had some kind of perfect job position for me with a good enough pay for me to go visit hot summers and cold winters whenever I wish to do it.

 

Miss winters? Perfect, let's go on a ski trip.

Want sunny weather? Perfect, let's travel to some island around the equator.


Edited by Coq de Combat - 2/21/13 at 2:22am
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It's kind of exciting though that we have different kinds of weathers depending on where we live though, isn't it? We really have the "four seasons" with a hot summer, cold snowy winter, perfect spring and a rainy autumn. A guy at work from venezuela explained that they don't really divide it into four seasons, but only two: dry season and wet season.

T-shirt and shorts weather is too hot for me. I wish there would be some kind of paradise island where it's spring all the time. That "just enough" weather that I find perfect. Then I wish they had some kind of perfect job position for me with a good enough pay for me to go visit hot summers and cold winters whenever I wish to do it.

 

Miss winters? Perfect, let's go on a ski trip.

Want sunny weather? Perfect, let's travel to some island around the equator.


lol ideal temperatures for me would be around 72 degrees. I sorta miss my AC :(....

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Just don't do it at DF's cafe. You might have to tackle a transient who attempts to pilfer them.

 

 


 

They're actually pretty similar to my ears. The KAEDE eliminates the slight glare on the SUI's treble, and it has a really fancy wood housing, but it costs twice as much. My default recommendation is for the SUI as a result.

 

I assumed you read some of my impressions for the Flat4, otherwise I would have mentioned it was U-shaped.

 

It's U-shaped.

 

The bass quantity is pretty sizable, the treble fairly bright. Mids are not recessed however. Like I said in my impressions, it's similar to the TH900 in that it's "fun" while still being a reference-grade listen. It excels at extracting low-level information and inner dynamics. Like, to an almost freaky level.

 

It's not at all "accurate" however. It's larger than life. Hyperreal.

 

I would put the "similar to the TH900" with a grain of salt. The Flat-4 is very energetic like being in a rock or electronic concert while the TH900 feels a bit more relaxed, like dancing a waltz in a ballroom.

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So, how 'bout that PS4?

 

 

As a Playstation fanboy (yes I belong in that generation) and part of the youth in this generation, I am highly disappointed in it................... I think I will have to think long and hard before deciding to buy or not buy on launch day. (Which tells us how Sony has withered over the years, usually a Playstation is some what of a must buy for me, times must have changed...) 

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I would put the "similar to the TH900" with a grain of salt. The Flat-4 is very energetic like being in a rock or electronic concert while the TH900 feels a bit more relaxed, like dancing a waltz in a ballroom.

 

Hey, the TH900 can rock out with the best of them.

 

But I agree: the comparison is lose. The mids of the Flat4 are more forced and inside your head, which could very well contribute to that added sense of energy. It's a more immediate listen. The Flat4's treble is also less tame.

 

I did qualify the statement by saying the similarity lies in their being U-shaped reference-class devices. In other words, I feel there's a similar philosophy behind their approach. In the impressions I gave jgray I further qualified this by saying the Flat4 was definitely more extreme.

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As a Playstation fanboy (yes I belong in that generation) and part of the youth in this generation, I am highly disappointed in it................... I think I will have to think long and hard before deciding to buy or not buy on launch day. (Which tells us how Sony has withered over the years, usually a Playstation is some what of a must buy for me, times must have changed...) 
I remember getting my first PS3 on launch day well when I say launch day, I had it a couple of months before it was officially released in Europe (I was living in Europe back then). The story was: after the announcement of the PS3 we went to a game shop that is importing a couple of PS3s from Japan. We put an order for one (60GB version) and of course, being an early adopter means a premium price. It was way higher than MSRP, I think almost double (we alsoordered some games too). The day that I finally got it, I was completely mesmerized by the graphics and details and everything. Ridge Racer 7 was incredible on it. Now that I look back, it's kind of okay. The good thing is, because I have the fat PS3 with all of those overkill features, it's the only SACD player that I have.
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Hey, the TH900 can rock out with the best of them.

But I agree: the comparison is lose. The mids of the Flat4 are more forced and inside your head, which could very well contribute to that added sense of energy. It's a more immediate listen. The Flat4's treble is also less tame.

I did qualify the statement by saying the similarity lies in their being U-shaped reference-class devices. In other words, I feel there's a similar philosophy behind their approach. In the impressions I gave jgray I further qualified this by saying the Flat4 was definitely more extreme.
I know, the TH900 is like a butler, a very nice butler. biggrin.gif When I heard it for the first time, I was astonished by it. The sound was sooooo smooooooth. Every music I threw at it, even the badly mastered ones are listenable and enjoyable. It's like a very obedient dog.
The Flat4, I would compare it more to the FitEar 334. To my ears, both have a U-shaped frequency response, only the 334 is much more defined in every way.
I would consider the Flat4 as baby 334s.
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I remember getting my first PS3 on launch day well when I say launch day, I had it a couple of months before it was officially released in Europe (I was living in Europe back then). The story was: after the announcement of the PS3 we went to a game shop that is importing a couple of PS3s from Japan. We put an order for one (60GB version) and of course, being an early adopter means a premium price. It was way higher than MSRP, I think almost double (we alsoordered some games too). The day that I finally got it, I was completely mesmerized by the graphics and details and everything. Ridge Racer 7 was incredible on it. Now that I look back, it's kind of okay. The good thing is, because I have the fat PS3 with all of those overkill features, it's the only SACD player that I have.

Wait the Fat PS3 is an SACD player? I still have mine but its gotten the infamous YLOD, so I abandoned it and bought a new one. Maybe its a good time to fix it and turn it into a nice little CD player......... 

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I have to totally disagree with you on the "baby TO GO 334" thing. For one thing, the treble on the Flat4 is far more pronounced than on the TO GO 334. People have complained that to their ears the TO GO 334 is too dark. That is something one would never see the Flat4 get labeled lol. The TO GO 334 is generally perceived as polite and laid back, a definite studio monitor on steroids. The closest comparison to a full-sized headphone for the TO GO 334 I can think of is the Stax SR-007, another headphone that is notoriously labeled as dark and too polite (when under-amped). While I don't agree, others have likened the TO GO 334 to the LCD-2. I think that descriptor is more fitting for the Heir 8.A personally.

 

Another area where they differ drastically is in presentation. The TO GO 334 is more of a traditional monitor with regard to imaging and spatial representation: it's "outside the head" but not airy or expansive like the K3003. It's very focused and coherent, more along the lines of the FI-BA-SS in scale. The Flat4 on the other hand is the antithesis of "outside the head," with an almost bottomless inner depth and more definitely cerebral presentation.

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Wait the Fat PS3 is an SACD player? I still have mine but its gotten the infamous YLOD, so I abandoned it and bought a new one. Maybe its a good time to fix it and turn it into a nice little CD player......... 

Only the first generation 60GB and 80GB PS3s had SACD so make sure to check which PS3 model you have or a more simple way, it's usually written on the side of the PS3.

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I have to totally disagree with you on the "baby TO GO 334" thing. For one thing, the treble on the Flat4 is far more pronounced than on the TO GO 334. People have complained that to their ears the TO GO 334 is too dark. That is something one would never see the Flat4 get labeled lol. The TO GO 334 is generally perceived as polite and laid back, a definite studio monitor on steroids. The closest comparison to a full-sized headphone for the TO GO 334 I can think of is the Stax SR-007, another headphone that is notoriously labeled as dark and too polite (when under-amped). While I don't agree, others have likened the TO GO 334 to the LCD-2. I think that descriptor is more fitting for the Heir 8.A personally.

 

Another area where they differ drastically is in presentation. The TO GO 334 is more of a traditional monitor with regard to imaging and spatial representation: it's "outside the head" but not airy or expansive like the K3003. It's very focused and coherent, more along the lines of the FI-BA-SS in scale. The Flat4 on the other hand is the antithesis of "outside the head," with an almost bottomless inner depth and more definitely cerebral presentation.

I did audition the 334 with the ALO SXC 24 cable without auditioning the stock cable so that might change the sound somewhat. I also auditioned it with the HP-P1 which is a bit known to have a "hot" sound with BA IEMs maybe that's why I did found the 334s not dark at all. Ok treble wise, it's not as pronounced as the Flat4 but it is very present and very detailed when I auditioned it. I might even say that the 334 surpasses the HD800 in some regions.

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Now that's a gorgeous DIY amp if I ever saw one. If I had known you guys were doing a group build I would have been PMing you begging you to let me join so I could get one of my own. So how does it sound and is there any chance of there being a second group build?


Another gorgeous looking piece of gear. Mind if I ask where you got the artwork from or was it offered on site?
You kids have all the cool looking toys.
Thanks for the interest. I had it on FB a couple times.

This was more of a regular anime thread member unit. It was a proof of concept. That we could even build and get such a unit out.

I have gotten many many inquiries into owning the unit. But as of this moment production is closed pending executive decision. B10 labs is working on another B22 project right now. But further projects can happen in the future.

A link in my signature links to an explanation post.

But basically due to bulk ordering. The entire component cost(minus case) was $85. This breaks down into $40 for CS flagship DAC. And $45 for a completed O2, custom microprocessor and RAM based command hub PCB, volume pot pcb, and finally all knobs, buttons and jacks.

The efficient cost of this unit was another note worthy thing.

So how does it sound? Good. The CS flagship holds itself up well against Dual WM8741 and the amp is a full fledged (desktop) Ow with Burr Brown op amp.

Full unit cost including donation was only $150. Shipping was another $25-35 and wall wart was $13

This put it within or near the $200 mark for
Most people.

We may have more projects in the future.
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Only the first generation 60GB and 80GB PS3s had SACD so make sure to check which PS3 model you have or a more simple way, it's usually written on the side of the PS3.

 

Brilliant all I need is some heat putty to fix my old PS3 and Id have an SACD player biggrin.gif

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