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In one of my recent dreams, I was taking part in the Sitges Zombie Walk.

 

...I've been wanting to for a while. Seems like it would be really fun.

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Sometimes it feels like being in a reverse closet. Even the idea of partners as being binary opposites or complementary pairs confuses me. I'm attracted to what I wish I could be;

 

You mean physically?

 

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Last year we spent our wad on a 10 day trip to Australia. 3 weeks later I was laid-off and was out of work for 5 months. We're still digging out from that fiasco. So - nothing special planned....

Go big or go home.  In this case you actually did both, which is quite a feat.  beerchug.gif  No one can know what the future holds.  Hope it was fun!

 

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Well at least you wont have to go to Australia for another 20 years......... Its not like it changes a lot........ 

 

Well, they might like it - in which case they'd want to go back soon.

 

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My resistance is crumbling.

 

Not sure what the resistance is based on.  Do you have any good reason to deny yourself this?

 

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I'm also talking to Marty from Martin Custom Audio about a possible Magnum V4 build. I'm requesting black and white ebony cups in an "extra wide" style with nickel-plated gimbals (left side).


Wow those look really beautiful, MF. I've heard many great things about Magnums, I hope to hear one eventually.

 

I dude named Sluker had a whole bag full of these at the L.A. Meet recently.  It didn't occur to me to ask for a listen until AFTER I had left the meet.  *bonehead*

 

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I don't think one needs to go back that far to find such a viewpoint. : P

 

I can't say I've studied this in detail but I think you'd have to go back pretty far before women get equated with inanimate objects or animals as opposed to 'just' second or third class citizens.  OTOH if you go back to before agriculture I'm pretty sure it evens out again...

 

Well...  Let's not forget that - in the United States - women weren't even allowed to vote until a century ago.  As racially divided as this country once was, a black man was allowed to vote nearly a half-century before any woman.  And technically speaking, the people in this country that aren't allowed to vote aren't considered second or third class citizens.  They're not considered citizens at all.


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Well...  Let's not forget that - in the United States - women weren't even allowed to vote until a century ago.  As racially divided as this country once was, a black man was allowed to vote nearly a half-century before any woman.  And technically speaking, the people in this country that aren't allowed to vote aren't considered second or third class citizens.  They're not considered citizens at all.

 

That's what I'd call a second or third class citizen.  They still had some rights, just not as many as others.

 

I'm going with generalized definitions here.  Using a particular country's legal code is silly because we're talking about something that transcends a single country.

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That's what I'd call a second or third class citizen.  They still had some rights, just not as many as others.

 

I'm going with generalized definitions here.  Using a particular country's legal code is silly because we're talking about something that transcends a single country.

 

Fair enough, but my point was that it wasn't all that long ago.


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Fair enough, but my point was that it wasn't all that long ago.

 

Yes, second or third class citizenship for women wasn't all that long ago but being a second class citizen is still a lot better than being treated as chattel which was further back in history..

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Hmm. Are Magnum drivers are still in production? I thought that Rhydon stopped making them?


The V4 drivers are still very much in production.

What Rhydon stopped doing was offering full builds, including aluminum cups branded with the Magnum name. Now he just sells the drivers as a stand-alone.

Ahh I see. So what's the current rate for a Magnum V4 driver now?
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As long as you don't let anyone know you frequent Head-fi.org or do 10-minute-long unboxing videos, you should be absolutely fine.

Oh no, I've sent my youtube channel and homepage with all kinds of unboxing videos. Man, that website is so good looking and it even has a "Sales" page, where I sell everything I unbox. I have so many companies sending me all kinds of freebies over here because of that, and all I have to do before selling is to make an unboxing video.

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In my short experience with university so far I have learned that they do a good job in creating a closer relationship to your professors and tutors. But I heard that it varies a lot between different faculties as well. My course is the quantitative science department, which is a relatively small department in any case.

Really? That's great. Over here, I think overall, students have a lot less relations to their teachers. BUT, I have seen the programming teachers wander about in those study rooms sometimes. Never happened to me though .. or anyone close to me.

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Oh, you are hiring Coq De Combat? Take me too. I can stand on my head, for example. What else can I do? Hm.

You could be my nerf gun protector. Apparently offices have a need of nerf gun warriors, so .. 

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Anything else to stand out from the crowd? Think hard...

 

    

 

LOL, interesting.

 

One is a bird?

One is black and white?

One uses a tux and bow tie?

One has a hand under his chin?

One has blue eyes?

 

Is mutabor one in that specific crowd btw?


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Well...  Let's not forget that - in the United States - women weren't even allowed to vote until a century ago.  As racially divided as this country once was, a black man was allowed to vote nearly a half-century before any woman.  And technically speaking, the people in this country that aren't allowed to vote aren't considered second or third class citizens.  They're not considered citizens at all.

 

Wait...not so fast. Sometimes, what's recorded on the books and what's actually enforced are different realities. Yes, the 15th Amendment to the Constitution granted Black men the right to vote, 3 February, 1870. This promise wouldn't be realized for nearly 100 years later because the Southern States continued to scheme and dream of ways to disenfranchise black people and effectively kept them from registering to vote.

 

That is why the country has the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which addressed these wrongs in the South. Much earlier than this, White women, once allowed to vote, could do so without a hitch, hose or German Shepard (intimidation).

 

So, while I understand the point you expressed, it was not that simple or correct in the rear view mirror. And worth breaking my silence for...

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Anything else to stand out from the crowd? Think hard...

    

This would be more accurate in my case:

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My 15 year old daughter is Type I, diagnosed at 22 months. How do you like the Omnipod? My daughter has been using an Animas pump for several years. She also occasionally wears a Dexcom Sensor & monitor, but usually only when her Endo wants to collect some data for analysis. She has had a habit of losing the Dexcom monitors (I think we've had to buy 3 or 4 of them and they ain't cheap!)
It drives me crazy that there still isn't a closed-loop sensor/monitor/pump on the market!

 

I'm sorry I haven't responded yet Billybob, I haven't forgotten you. I'm going to a concert soon and won't be back till late, so expect a pm sometime tomorrow. My opinion is quite divided, so I'll try to summarize my feelings on it. Again, sorry for making you wait.

 

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What a gorgeous human being. *swoon*

 

I love androgyny.


It saddens me to say this, but Hizaki has nothing on that...and without makeup? NO WAY.


Edited by Sylverant - 9/17/12 at 6:55am
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Actually, I would disagree that considering women little more than objects or animals is something that was limited to ancient cultures. In fact in some cases women enjoyed a higher status in some of those pre-modern cultures than they did later on in history, and the "progress" of women's rights can't really be viewed as a linear succession. What is it that distinguishes the human being from other animals? Rationality. A common view of women throughout history, certainly not limited to ancient times, has been that they were not in control of their passions and not capable of the reasoning that men alone supposedly possessed. This is one of the main arguments used to deny them a voice in society. Now, one can view this as treating them like second class citizens, but I would argue that it also goes beyond this. It is a form of objectification, as one is denying them subjectivity and that uniquely human capacity of self-awareness and self-mastery. Often they have been seen as operating on a purely instinctual or emotional level, and any virtues that they cultivate for their betterment are done in actually to attract potential mates; little more than a cultivated survival instinct.

 

In the example I was just talking about, Sex and Character, women are pretty much considered objects (denied subjectivity) or animals operating on a purely instinctual level. It was written in the 20th century. So no, you don't have to go that far back in history to find those kinds of views. Even when they become less blatant and more like subtle traces socially speaking, they still manifest to varying degrees on the individual level. The bodies of women are still treated like property or commodity in this day and age, and women are denied a voice in what happens to that body. I'm not going to get into the particulars, but there are plenty of examples today. Some of them should be familiar to most Westerners and are hot topics of debate going on at the moment; other are less familiar but possibly more horrendous, like female genital mutilation.

 

And no, I don't want to debate whether FGM is actually treating a girl like an animal or not. I mean seriously.


Edited by MuppetFace - 9/16/12 at 3:33pm
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On a lighter note, I'm getting a Stax 4070. Wee!
 

 

 

 

 

 

(Images from Wikiphonia)


Edited by MuppetFace - 9/16/12 at 3:39pm
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Oh no, I've sent my youtube channel and homepage with all kinds of unboxing videos. Man, that website is so good looking and it even has a "Sales" page, where I sell everything I unbox. I have so many companies sending me all kinds of freebies over here because of that, and all I have to do before selling is to make an unboxing video.

 

Yup.  This is exactly (read: slight parody of) why I'm so paranoid about my handle and RL identity crossing over at all.

 

I'm actually putting together a resume for possible change of jobs right now as well and it's nerve wracking enough without having to worry about a potential employer looking me up online and finding out about all you out-of-the-mainstream hobbies, seeing you debate controversial issues, or possibly think I'm insane because they don't get the context of some joke I made because they're not part of the sub-culture.  I rarely drink and don't do drugs or party so it's not even like there are (or are too likely to ever be) pictures or videos of me getting wasted and doing something stupid, which seems to be one of the more common things employers find on Facebook or whatever other social networking site, but things I post in forums or as comments on blogs are plenty good ammo as excuses to fire someone for "making the company look bad" or just not perfect enough for a resume or application to be discarded out of hand..

 

I think I may end up getting a LinkedIn Profile just for "professional" use since it seem to be getting pretty popular and actually useful.  My dad's almost 60 but he has one and he even just got a new job through it.  Of course maverickronin will never mention his real name and under my real name at LinkedIn I'll never mention maverickronin.  I think that would be pretty easy to do there since it's mostly about business and jobs.  Facebook tries to be everything and even if I got a Facebook account it would pretty much be useless.

 

Some of it's stuff I'd actually enjoy, like more easily keeping in touch with old friends, but I'd pretty much need 2 separate accounts, one in my real name and one as maverickronin. The last time I read the TOS it said you could only have one account and you had to use your real name so I don't even want to bother for all the hassle it would be.  I wouldn't be able to use the only other thing facebook seems to be good for either, the promotions and contests that require you to "like" something.  I can't use my handle because Facebook won't let me and I couldn't use my real name either because the majority of promotions and contests I'd like to take part in/enter would be related to my hobbies and easily traced to my handle.

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On a lighter note, I'm getting a Stax 4070. Wee!


Cool.

 

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Actually, I would disagree that considering women little more than objects or animals is something that was limited to ancient cultures. In fact in some cases women enjoyed a higher status in some of those pre-modern cultures than they did later on in history, and the "progress" of women's rights can't really be viewed as a linear succession. What is it that distinguishes the human being from other animals? Rationality. A common view of women throughout history, certainly not limited to ancient times, has been that they were not in control of their passions and not capable of the reasoning that men alone supposedly possessed. This is one of the main arguments used to deny them a voice in society. Now, one can view this as treating them like second class citizens, but I would argue that it also goes beyond this. It is a form of objectification, as one is denying them subjectivity and that uniquely human capacity of self-awareness and self-mastery. Often they have been seen as operating on a purely instinctual or emotional level, and any virtues that they cultivate for their betterment are done in actually to attract potential mates; little more than a cultivated survival instinct.

 

In the example I was just talking about, Sex and Character, women are pretty much considered objects (denied subjectivity) or animals operating on a purely instinctual level. It was written in the 20th century. So no, you don't have to go that far back in history to find those kinds of views. Even when they become less blatant and more like subtle traces socially speaking, they still manifest to varying degrees on the individual level. The bodies of women are still treated like property or commodity in this day and age, and women are denied a voice in what happens to that body. I'm not going to get into the particulars, but there are plenty of examples today. Some of them should be familiar to most Westerners and are hot topics of debate going on at the moment; other are less familiar but possibly more horrendous, like female genital mutilation.

 

I was generalizing a bit.  It's certainly not a linear progression.  Even in my sweeping generalization I said that it got better for women if you went back to before agriculture since that brought on permanent settlements, stratification, and states which required real estate/property rights, and it's associated inheritance issues which became something that could legitimately be called a "patriarchy".  Of course every culture is different and these things always have their ups and downs as well so it's more of a general trend rather than a smooth progression.  There are always outliers as well.

 

Maybe in Saudi Arabia (a modern outlier) where the role of "male escort, related by blood or marriage" a grown woman requires to leave her house can be fulfilled by her 8 year old son and child brides are essentially sold to men in arranged marriages you could find a place today where women are on the level of chattel.  How far back in the history of so-called "western" civilization do you have to go before women were treated like they were in Saudi Arabia today?

 

I'm not saying that everything was perfect for women's right 100 or 200 years ago in the developed world, because it sure as hell wasn't, but there were times in the past when women had it far worse.  Sure somebody wrote something amazingly misogynistic and maybe even had some legitimacy but common practice wasn't as bad as that summary you gave.  Maybe women were expected and socially pressured to marry young, have babies, be mothers, and seen as inferior to men but fathers didn't sell their daughters to other men to cement business relations between the two families or something.

 

My exact analogy was a pot full of dirt and fertilizer.  While this doesn't and isn't intended excuse the kind of treatment that women received at the time, allow me to extend this analogy by saying that, "generally unfit for any role besides gardening" is still a promotion from being the pot.  They both suck and are horrible ways to treat a person but one is certainly worse.

 

Or am I wrong on a specific fact?  Has history been whitewashed enough that I missed out on the fact that women were treated as chattel more recently in western history than I realized since I haven't studied this specific question?

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