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Oh nonsense, everyone knows there are no girls on the Internet, that's just a silly urban legend
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Hmm talking about legendary IEM falling on elusive forum members, I feel like I just like IEMs' way of presentation. I like the contrast some of the good ones gave me in terms of soundstage, or what I would prefer to call "headscape". That intimacy of vocals in contrast with instruments is just sublime, and it's something that I find lacking in the few headphones that I manage to try (and own).

Yeah, I agree. I don't know what it is, but I just prefer IEMs in general. Has a lot to do with the fact that I'm seldom home to justify the invest in a home rig too. I like to just keep it simple when it comes to a portable set up. No bricks, LODs, mini to mini etc. I carry around too much as it is.
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Hmm talking about legendary IEM falling on elusive forum members, I feel like I just like IEMs' way of presentation. I like the contrast some of the good ones gave me in terms of soundstage, or what I would prefer to call "headscape". That intimacy of vocals in contrast with instruments is just sublime, and it's something that I find lacking in the few headphones that I manage to try (and own).

 

Exactly.

 

I posted this in a PM to someone, but I may as well reproduce it here:

 

Headphones just seem to occupy a no-mans-land for me these days. IEMs are very personal and in your head, with a unique cerebral way of presenting music for me. They do imaging and inner-dynamics better than a lot of fullsized headphones, and those are two of my top priorities. Especially with customs using more advanced crossovers and even active crossover now. On the other hand, speakers are hard to beat and sound so open and spatially satisfying.

 

That's why I prefer more open headphones like Stax and other "earspeakers." Also some dynamics like the Qualia 010.  They have that effortlessness to them. Most headphones---aside from being uncomfortable---present sound in a way that seems muffled, restricted, and spatially confused to me (often coming from behind my head). Maybe I just have weird spatial awareness.

 

IEMs and speakers are both invasive and require a commitment of sorts. The former because they literally invade your body, having to be fitted inside of you. The latter because they invade your home, requiring a lot of space and commitment to setting them up to take advantage of the room. In a way they're very similar despite being on opposite ends of the spectrum. It's just with IEMs the listening space is your head, and the "room treatment" are the ear tips and fitting.

 

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Yes, Romy's theory of IEMs = tiny speakers for your head-room.

 

Really though, I get the vocals thing too. I wish Suyama would let Jaben sell the Monet so I could get it. The Monet seems to be voiced right up my alley. Bright and aggressive but controlled. Like the EX700 or Flat4.

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Oh and that one time with lily? Yeah. I never bought into it. Some do, and I suspect some genuinely really believed it. I, with my ever cynical and skeptic eye, saw through whatever Reality Distortion Field I concocted. It just felt fake and exploitative to some of the guys there, and that gave it all away for me.

 

Ahh, good times, good times.  biggrin.gif

 

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And that long build-up of oil in between rare rains doesn't help. I'm usually on heightened alert and ditch the 405 for Sepulveda Blvd. Well...like that's sayin' somethin'...rolleyes.gif

 

Nope, but people still act all paranoid like three days into the storm.  I think that if east coasters (especially the ones that drive through snow) saw that, they'd be utterly bewildered.

 

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DUN DUN DUN

 

And people think us Trekkies have poor social skills...

 

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I feel like I just like IEMs' way of presentation. I like the contrast some of the good ones gave me in terms of soundstage, or what I would prefer to call "headscape". That intimacy of vocals in contrast with instruments is just sublime, and it's something that I find lacking in the few headphones that I manage to try (and own).

 

Hmm, can you think of any headphones that sound as good as the MA350 at the same price?  Not what you got it for (free), but for the $40 MSRP?  In my mind, the only two contenders are the $30 Monoprice and Panasonics.  And having heard both, I'd say they come nowhere close to the MA350. 


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I think it's safe to guess why, but I've noticed straight women almost never use female avatars on forums.  The only exceptions I can think of are one member on this site and another on a video game forum I go to, but the later's on TV so it's w/e.  Some girls I've known do this on instant messaging clients and skype too. 

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I post over at GAF most of the time and we've got a pretty decent gay/trans/minority/female demographic there. People of every walk really, which is quite beneficial for promoting tolerance and understanding. Nobody flips out about it really, and a lot of the females who post there are open about the fact that they are women. Maybe they get creepy PMs from time to time, I dunno *shrugs*
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It's not often I see people trying to hide their gender either.  Like, they'll freely talk about it but still have a dude avatar to make that less of a thing to weirdos and newcomers (or they just like the particular avatar).

 

Also, nine times out of ten (in my experience, at least), female posters who have big booby girl avatars are TG and that attention's a more positive thing for them.  I'm not judging or anything, that just seems to be how it works.

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Classic.

I miss the days of the original diary thread when kiteki would post photos of herself attending her classes in Japan with her friends, posing for pictures taken via camera phone with a mischievous smile. Random folks would stumble in and try to flirt.

Funny thing is, there are people who post in the diary thread on occasion who people don't even know are female. Dun dun duuuuuun.

Oh man, so sad that I missed all of that. It must've been hellishly funny to see all the flirting (whether openly in the thread or through PM, since I remember once where kiteki posted a screenshot of a PM. And to this day, I just act like kiteki is Hermaphroditus. It's easier that way)

And for that, we need a M. Night Shamlasdkfjasldkjfalan twist ending. It's in the air!!!111!1

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Exactly.

I posted this in a PM to someone, but I may as well reproduce it here:

Headphones just seem to occupy a no-mans-land for me these days. IEMs are very personal and in your head, with a unique cerebral way of presenting music for me. They do imaging and inner-dynamics better than a lot of fullsized headphones, and those are two of my top priorities. Especially with customs using more advanced crossovers and even active crossover now. On the other hand, speakers are hard to beat and sound so open and spatially satisfying.

That's why I prefer more open headphones like Stax and other "earspeakers." Also some dynamics like the Qualia 010. They have that effortlessness to them. Most headphones---aside from being uncomfortable---present sound in a way that seems muffled, restricted, and spatially confused to me (often coming from behind my head). Maybe I just have weird spatial awareness.

IEMs and speakers are both invasive and require a commitment of sorts. The former because they literally invade your body, having to be fitted inside of you. The latter because they invade your home, requiring a lot of space and commitment to setting them up to take advantage of the room. In a way they're very similar despite being on opposite ends of the spectrum. It's just with IEMs the listening space is your head, and the "room treatment" are the ear tips and fitting.

* * * * * * *

Yes, Romy's theory of IEMs = tiny speakers for your head-room.

Really though, I get the vocals thing too. I wish Suyama would let Jaben sell the Monet so I could get it. The Monet seems to be voiced right up my alley. Bright and aggressive but controlled. Like the EX700 or Flat4.

Yesssssssssss.

I have to say, this is by far the most relateable of your musings to me. It just ... speaks to me. Can I share this on my blog, just to put it in my Preference page/tab/whatever. Greater Theory of IEM Supremacy or something like that.
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Hmm, can you think of any headphones that sound as good as the MA350 at the same price?  Not what you got it for (free), but for the $40 MSRP?  In my mind, the only two contenders are the $30 Monoprice and Panasonics.  And having heard both, I'd say they come nowhere close to the MA350. 

No I can't lol, since I didn't start The Journey. There's this one time where I wanted something good. Did a ton of research for nearly 3 weeks* and purchased the CAL! as my first kill. Then I think I either bought the JVC FXT90 or Koss Porta-Pro next, and I accidentally read about this mythical creature called orthodynamics. Weeks pass reading the monster of a thread of the ortho labyrinth, while I also stumbled upon the rare MS1000 thread. A few weeks pass and plans are in motion. Fostex T50RP is in my hands, MS1i and a pair of Grado jumbowls earpads are on my way, as well as my current favourite love affair the Sony MDR-7550, my lost love the Koss KDE350, my gift to my brother the Thermaltake Isurius, and a rather expensive Yamaha YH-1. All lust for audiophilia was lost, btw, when I have all this things in my possession at one time last summer, since i figured "heck, this is too much for me and too ridiculous". By this time IIRC I found out a lot of the drama, the strife and the wars of Head-fi. And fast forward til now, and all I did was make some half-hearted declaration to get the FXZ100, and now enjoying the simple bliss of the MA350, which I think I'm going to name it pretty soon.



*this may be exaggeration.

I wish Koss would revist the KDE350 and make an updated one, since by far that's the most unique* and wonderful piece of eargear I've heard.

*this is a lie (well not technically a lie, since I don't think it's wonderful, just unique and enigmatic), since the most unique I've heard is actually one of the FAD new-vase earphones. The PF VIII or something.
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It's not often I see people trying to hide their gender either.  Like, they'll freely talk about it but still have a dude avatar to make that less of a thing to weirdos and newcomers (or they just like the particular avatar).

Also, nine times out of ten (in my experience, at least), female posters who have big booby girl avatars are TG and that attention's a more positive thing for them.  I'm not judging or anything, that just seems to be how it works.

oooooh i c wat u did thar in you avatar.
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It's the best picture of Tyll I could draw :( (kidding)

 

(actually, ****, if I weren't feeling so lazy right now I'd shop a Hawaiian shirt onto john there)


Edited by driver 8 - 2/12/13 at 1:43pm
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Oh, and in other news I put in an order for the Fostex TH600. PriceJapan expects them to be in stock on the 25th of this month, though it'll probably take a few extra days for the initial batch to arrive. So hopefully I'll have them by the end of the first week of March.

Speaking of Fostex, they're finally giving customers a reasonable stand with the their TH900s:


mad.gif Those bas####s. They should ship those to existing owners, with an apology.
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I made a video about a heap of portable gear I had here at once. I never published it. It even has some really lame jokes in it. Took me a couple of dozen takes and goes for 20 minutes or so, which is as much as the D7000 would do before stopping.

Must publish!

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Exactly.

I posted this in a PM to someone, but I may as well reproduce it here:

Headphones just seem to occupy a no-mans-land for me these days. IEMs are very personal and in your head, with a unique cerebral way of presenting music for me. They do imaging and inner-dynamics better than a lot of fullsized headphones, and those are two of my top priorities. Especially with customs using more advanced crossovers and even active crossover now. On the other hand, speakers are hard to beat and sound so open and spatially satisfying.

That's why I prefer more open headphones like Stax and other "earspeakers." Also some dynamics like the Qualia 010. They have that effortlessness to them. Most headphones---aside from being uncomfortable---present sound in a way that seems muffled, restricted, and spatially confused to me (often coming from behind my head). Maybe I just have weird spatial awareness.

IEMs and speakers are both invasive and require a commitment of sorts. The former because they literally invade your body, having to be fitted inside of you. The latter because they invade your home, requiring a lot of space and commitment to setting them up to take advantage of the room. In a way they're very similar despite being on opposite ends of the spectrum. It's just with IEMs the listening space is your head, and the "room treatment" are the ear tips and fitting.

* * * * * * *

Yes, Romy's theory of IEMs = tiny speakers for your head-room.

Really though, I get the vocals thing too. I wish Suyama would let Jaben sell the Monet so I could get it. The Monet seems to be voiced right up my alley. Bright and aggressive but controlled. Like the EX700 or Flat4.

Actually to expand on this a bit more, IEMs also does a better job at a few things why people are buying headphones for. If talking of isolation, IEMs does it better. If talking of portability, IEMs of course does better. Comfort is where I think headphones would've won almost most of the time, but even then, some headphones are heavy or suffocating. I felt like IEMs offer less compromise than headphones.
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Headphones just seem to occupy a no-mans-land for me these days. IEMs are very personal and in your head, with a unique cerebral way of presenting music for me. They do imaging and inner-dynamics better than a lot of fullsized headphones, and those are two of my top priorities. Especially with customs using more advanced crossovers and even active crossover now. On the other hand, speakers are hard to beat and sound so open and spatially satisfying.

I'm not so experienced as most of you, but I've been thinking about this too.

I'm pretty sensitive to how things feel on my head because I have TMJ which is like a jaw problem. Anyway, in terms of comfort, IEMs > Headphones > Speakers obviously, but I have a surplus of space on my head to be invaded and a shortage of space to be invaded by speakers on my desk.

IEMs never seem to fit in both ears equally, headphones never seem to clamp the same on both sides. So I'm constantly fidgeting with them.

Using speakers, even the awful ones that are built in to my laptop, are such a relief sometimes. It's like using contact lenses instead of glasses. FREEDOM from strange feelings on my face. I'm just super sensitive about these things though. Can't wear watches for the same reason. Need balance and can't have movable objects on me.
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I have to say, this is by far the most relateable of your musings to me. It just ... speaks to me. Can I share this on my blog, just to put it in my Preference page/tab/whatever. Greater Theory of IEM Supremacy or something like that.

 

Feel free!

 

 


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Actually to expand on this a bit more, IEMs also does a better job at a few things why people are buying headphones for. If talking of isolation, IEMs does it better. If talking of portability, IEMs of course does better. Comfort is where I think headphones would've won almost most of the time, but even then, some headphones are heavy or suffocating. I felt like IEMs offer less compromise than headphones.

 

 

Really, I think everything has its share of compromises, be it headphones, IEMs, or speakers. Some people can't stand the feeling of stuff shoved into their ears, while others can't get a good fit with IEMs for whatever reason. Also a lot of IEMs create a vacuum-type sensation that can be very distracting. Most IEMs can't replicate the spaciousness of fullsized headphones, and for some people the overall size of the soundstage is really important, even if it means instruments sound like they're clustered on either side. I'm not one of those people however. Cohesiveness of the soundstage and the relative positions of one instrument to another are more important to me.

 

I'd also argue for another parallel between IEMs and speakers: physicality. With speakers, your body feels the sound. Even the bassiest headphones lack that bodily impact that speaker bass has (with the exception of the H2+ perhaps, but again, that's basically a pair of little speakers dangling on the sides of your head). IEMs have that bodily impact, but on a much smaller scale. Stuff like FAD's BAM can actually be felt... you can feel the air being moved.

 

People have the misconception that IEMs are going to be inferior to fullsized headphones, that for the same amount of money you get more with headphones when the opposite is actually true (you can buy more IEM for your money). I guess in part it's a psychological thing, because IEMs are smaller, and bigger is often seen as better? Plus there's the idea of compromise. Obviously if it's portable and small, there has to be a catch or something. Also it wasn't long ago that many IEMs did suck, and your money didn't go very far. Things have most definitely changed however. I think IEMs are one of the areas in this hobby where innovation is strongest, where there's genuine improvement in products from one year to the next.

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IEMs never seem to fit in both ears equally, headphones never seem to clamp the same on both sides. So I'm constantly fidgeting with them.
 

 

Yeah, it's something that takes some getting used to, but even then some people just never adjust to the feeling for various reasons as you state. I'd suggest saving up for some desktop monitors and an integrated amp if you can. Something like the ARTist monitors or KEFs are in the $500-1200 range, but they'd last for ages and upgrade-itis is easier to fight in my experience when it comes to speakers. Headphones and IEMs have that "trinket" effect that make them easier to amass.

 

 

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On an unrelated note, this is my favorite beer at the moment:

 

 

 

 

I've always been a fan of nice, opaque wheat beers from Germany.


Edited by MuppetFace - 2/12/13 at 3:02pm
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