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In most cases it is women who really initiate things, make the first more, though we men like to think otherwise. Women often do it in much more subtle / sophisticated ways. In that sense the woman really is the hunter and the man…isn't.

 

I can't help but think of the ending to Samuel Beckett's Watt in regards to the idea of woman's passivity and a potential homosexual encounter. Would they both just sit there looking at one another for all eternity, I wonder?

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Subtle? Sometimes I get the announcement, "I'm getting naked, you have two minutes and then I'm starting without you". Then I get up and briskly head to the bedroom. This is very effective.
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Well, the very fact that it escapes the symbolic order means it escapes any attempt to define it in linguistic terms. As soon as we give it a name, it is no longer what it was.

 

So there's a gender studies corollary to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle?

 

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Are you familiar with Tegan and Sara?

 

Tegan digs Sara?

 

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I'm fine with them. I use them myself.

 

Okay good. 

 

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We all have girl's mitochondria anyway since it's passed on matrilineally...

 

Well the genetic coding contained therein is.  But I doubt Von Balthasar knew that.

 

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so men could never "understand" women truly.

 

Well at least he got one thing right.

 

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I always find it curious when a priest proclaims to have all the answers on relationships, sex, etc. It's like getting advice on running shoes & gloves from a quadruple amputee...

 

There is no spoon.

 

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That would totally hilarious if it wasn't serious.

 

I dunno, I still think he's pretty entertaining - even if he took himself seriously.

 

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Of course, one wonders how Balthasar can conveniently ignore the dual role of man as father and bridegroom, which would make him of a dyadic nature as well.

 

Well that's easy, he's a dude.

 

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But anyways, Schopenhauer is weaksauce compared to Weininger. Anyone wanting to read one of the most misogynist works ever written should check out Sex and Character.

 

I'll pass thanks.  Just the title sounds like something a total dick would write.

 

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In most cases it is women who really initiate things, make the first move, though we men like to think otherwise. Women often do it in much more subtle / sophisticated ways. In that sense the woman really is the hunter and the man…isn't.

 

Well that's only because they've figured out what makes us tick (which admittedly isn't very difficult).  Whereas we have met with um - somewhat limited success - in that area.


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Well that's only because they've figured out what makes us tick (which admittedly isn't very difficult).  Whereas we have met with um - somewhat limited success - in that area.

 

You probably don't mean it in this way, but that kind of thinking could be construed as patriarchal itself, as womanhood has often been portrayed as a "dark secret" that is inaccessible to the light of male reason. It creates a differential wherein the stereotypically reasoned man cannot fathom to irrationality of woman, and woman has figured out how to manipulate man to her advantage.

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Black Mesa Source is out now. I've been wanting to replay Half-Life....

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Perhaps that's her subtle way of saying "I'd rather start without you".

 

 

LOL.

 

Future-proofing this gem, just in case. : P

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Well, at least she still gives him the option.
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Of course, one wonders how Balthasar can conveniently ignore the dual role of man as father and bridegroom, which would make him of a dyadic nature as well.

 

Probably because if you go back far enough, and into the right society and social class, women were pretty much viewed as those pots that come full of dirt and miracle grow so you just have to put your seed in it and go about your business...

 

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Arthur Schopenhauer "On women"

 

I just caught a few sentences before I needed the brain bleach...

 

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But anyways, Schopenhauer is weaksauce compared to Weininger. Anyone wanting to read one of the most misogynist works ever written should check out Sex and Character.

 

It gets worse than that?  And it falls under the category of what you study for a living?

 

I lack the necessary emoticons...

 

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My dad had one of those "bag phones" pretty much as soon as they came out since his job was high-level on-call tech support.  I also had a set of "toy" walkie talkies styled after the "brick phones" too.  Later on he got a StarTAC pretty much as soon as they came out.

 

 

01fb0a86_Motorola_StarTAC1.jpeg

 

 

That thing was tiny for 1996.


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Sometimes I get the announcement, "I'm getting naked, you have two minutes and then I'm starting without you".

 

Ever call her on that bluff?

 

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You probably don't mean it in this way, but that kind of thinking could be construed as patriarchal itself, as womanhood has often been portrayed as a "dark secret" that is inaccessible to the light of male reason. It creates a differential wherein the stereotypically reasoned man cannot fathom to irrationality of woman, and woman has figured out how to manipulate man to her advantage.

 

Dark secret?  Not any that I'm aware of.  But my wife tends to be pretty perceptive as to what is going through my mind.  Whereas I am less so, which is not to imply that I don't care because I do.  The net result is that it is much easier for her to get her way than for me to get mine.  But Ima tell you right now, I like it when she get's her way as it tends to be a lot of fun.  And for the record, I don't feel like i'm being taken advantage of, except in the ways that I want to be taken advantage of.  wink.gif

 

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I think that's a bit of a cliché (though obviously there's some truth there). I think it's more accurate to say that we have difficulty in understanding one another, regardless of sex; we often have great difficulty understanding ourselves. We don't often realise how contradictory we are. There are plenty of cases where women feel more comfortable among men, and men who feel more comfortable around women regardless of whether one happens to be gay or not.

 

That's for sure. 

 

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Also the way children look at other children is very interesting.

 

blink.gif  Children have a way of looking at other children?

 

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Well, at least she still gives him the option.

 

How's the family life billybob?  wink.gif  biggrin.gif


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Probably because if you go back far enough, and into the right society and social class, women were pretty much viewed as those pots that come full of dirt and miracle grow so you just have to put your seed in it and go about your business...


I just caught a few sentences before I needed the brain bleach...


It gets worse than that?  And it falls under the category of what you study for a living?

I lack the necessary emoticons...


My dad had one of those "bag phones" pretty much as soon as they came out since his job was high-level on-call tech support.  I also had a set of "toy" walkie talkies styled after the "brick phones" too.  Later on he got a StarTAC pretty much as soon as they came out.


01fb0a86_Motorola_StarTAC1.jpeg


That thing was tiny for 1996.

He must have skipped the Microtac:

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Ever call her on that bluff?

Never call a bluff when you haven't got at least a pair and your high card is a 7 of Clubs.


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How's the family life billybob?  wink.gif   biggrin.gif

It will be 27 years next month! wink.gif
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Edited by music_4321 - 9/16/12 at 11:32pm
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Perhaps that's her subtle way of saying "I'd rather start without you".

Where's the fun in that? biggrin.gif I just stayed where I was once, just to mess with her, and she ended up hunting me down. So I learned that resistance is futile.
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He must have skipped the Microtac:

 

No idea.  The middle ground isn't as iconic, so no memory.

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