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With my graceless clodhoppers, it's more likely I'll step on yours.

 

Are they bigger than a Clearaudio turntable?

 


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Edit: Some vintage Audio-Technica's in the sales forum right now... with absolutely ridiculous asking prices IMHO. Like, the highest I've ever seen. Just a friendly warning.

 

Hahaha... For the same asking price, a Shure SRH1840, which seems to me like a better deal. That's one of the headphones from 2012 that I really wanted to hear. Not enough to buy without trying, though. It's a model that threatened to become FOTM but never really seemed to take off either in popularity or notoriety in the way some other items did.


Edited by ardgedee - 12/27/12 at 3:41am
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Are they bigger than a Clearaudio turntable?

 

 

Maybe the entry level one? But that's big enough.

 

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Hahaha... On the other hand, a Shure SRH1840 at a decent price. It's one of the headphones from 2012 that I really wanted to hear. Not enough to buy without trying, though. It's a model that threatened to become FOTM but never really seemed to take off either in popularity or notoriety in the way some other items did.

 

 

Yeah... totally snubbed the SRH1840 in my year-end reflections, didn't I? Seems to me like a lot of the anticipation was killed by the price tage, which greatly exceeded the expectations of their target audience. It sent a sort of mixed message and seemed confused, like it didn't know whether it was a studio tool or a boutique audiophile product. Finally those distortion measurements scared some people away.

 

Personally I think it's a pretty good headphone, able to give a lot of that HD800 type of musical presentation but without the requirement for a synergistically exacting setup. I have some friends who describe it as "lo-fi" sounding, and while it doesn't scale particular well, has a distorted / weird sounding bass, and isn't so adept at rendering texture, I think that assessment is a bit harsh personally. The problem is, the K701 and SA5000 can pretty much match it technically and sort of were the "HD800s for the masses" before it came along. Heck, even in Shure's own lineup the SRH940 is pretty much technically on par. Where the SRH1840 excels over the SRH940 however is in the overall tonal balance, which I think it does pretty well. There's a certain musical sweetness to the highs that makes it very nice to listen to for me. The bass... it snarls like a wild dog rather than pound like a gorilla on luggage. Definitely not the sort of low end response I'd want in my main headphones, but a fun curiosity.

 

I guess I just can't approach it in "critic mode" for very long. It's a fun headphone for me, which probably causes some cognitive dissonance since it's all serious in how it comports itself. Like a clown at a funeral.

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Linear presentation, detailed mids with especially good vocals. Bass is quite good and detailed and goes deep. Boarders on analytical due to a very loaded treble but not overly harsh to my ears. Upper registers can be peaky in spots but shouldn't be a problem with good source. Can be quite sibilant with badly recorded source but with good source it's a wonderful listen. Sound is very lean and speed is quite good with very good note decay. Tonality can be a little off or at least it was to my ears and I've noticed a slight metallic tinge in the mids but the few times I've mentioned it on the Beyer threads people on there have told me to either stop drinking or clean out my ears so I stopped discussing tonality and generally stopped hanging out on Beyer threads. Note, I highly recommend you do the same. Fit is ultra important and I don't care what anyone says to sound their best the DT1350 should be amped. You can get away without amping but they won't sound their best. The best area where they shine the most would be vocals especially female vocals. The best genre(s) they do: symphony, symphonic rock, jazz, some electronica. Soundstage is good but not huge but good none the less. Instrument positioning is good and I'm having spacial cues firing up in exact spots all around my head making it easy to hone in on a certain instrument. Although soundstage is good width wise depth wise it's a little lacking meaning sound isn't as layered as it could be. End result, I'm not particularly liking how some live music sounds on it although live Pink Floyd seems to be the exception to the rule.

Biggest cons: with bad source will sound like utter crap especially in the highs, very fit dependent and if you don't get a proper fit the whole sound signature goes into the sewer
Biggest Pluses: gorgeous vocal representation, fast deep detailed bass, no mud in the lows

Be warned YMMV
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If any Beyer boys happens to read this I'm entitled to my own opinion so chill out before flaming me.
@MuppetFace
Thanks for the input but I still really like the K240. Want to join me in doing the AKG happy dance? I promise I won't step on your feet....much. I'll even let you lead if you want.wink_face.gif

That's interesting and does warrant a second longer listen, now that my ears seem to be able to dissect songs much more easily and faster. BTW, from the 30 minutes audition with it in Jaben Malaysia way back in summer, in my notes I wrote that the more stand out impression is on my ears and temple tongue.gif . Damn the clamp is too strong, and since it's not mine, I can't stretch the headband out. And I think I do need to adjust the positioning more since it's such a small headphone. Oh and according to my notes, I seem to wrote that it's mediocre all around, except the clamp LOL. Was hoping that it could be "it" in the summer, but ... Hopefully by the time I'm back in Malaysia, the Sony Centre there have the 1R, and hopefully somewhere have the UE6000 for me to try out first.
@MF, yep did exhaustive research on all manner of AKG vintage and already gleaned a bit at how PITA it is to search for one. Not going to be searching for one very soon too, since my zealousness in this is waning quite a lot.
I seem to be approaching Tenso with trepidation, since the last time I used shipping with EMS, it didn't arrive to me and was sent back to the sender (this was with Alessandro. I reroute it to my home in Malaysia since it's too close to my flight back there to be resent to Moscow). Hmm.
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One thing I've always found interesting about the Audio-Technica Ear Suits is their scalability. The ESW10JPN for instance sounds really good out of a cheap DAP, but hooking it up to something like the Zana Deux SE results in something that sounds more like an AT flagship. I've been listening to the ESW11LTD this morning with the UHA-6S now that it's back in rotation, and it sounds noticeably better than straight out of the A865 and F806 Walkmen. The somewhat flumpy bottom-end is whipped into shape and overall it just sounds more refined. Compared to the ESW10JPN it's still a bit hollow in the midrange, and the top end lacks the latter's sparkle and finesse. Basically it sounds more constrained and closed in comparison, and it doesn't have quite the same immersive quality. Still, I'm enjoying it with the right material, and it's growing on me slowly but surely. My original descriptors are still largely intact in my mind when I listen: the ESW11LTD has a somewhat distant yet small-scale presentation, a smokey or ashen character; it has plenty of detail, but it's not emphasized or presented in a way that stands out, with the overall tone being somewhat laid back. Typically the "Limited" models in Audio-Technica's lineup have been the most unobtrusive sonically, with the least of the W-series' stereotypical coloration. While the ESW11LTD doesn't take a more analytic direction like its predecessors (W10LTD, W11R, EW9NR), I'm starting to hear some of that lineage and starting to wrap my head around why AT is classifying these as such. It keeps the listener respectfully at arms length, yet it produces an intriguing acoustic shroud of spectral energy, possessing a few tweaks---particularly in the bass response---to compensate for active, portable use. Even ignoring the delicate artisan lacquer and fragile assembly, the ESW10JPN wasn't the best choice for major on-the-go listening sonically. It was a tiny headphone for home use. I feel the ESW11LTD on the other hand is better suited (sound-wise, at least) for mobile listening.

 

I seem to have a touch of the Audio-Technica spark at the moment. Picked up the CKM1000, and now I'm seriously considering the CK100Pro and AD2000X.

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Still, I'd rather listen to the FAD Heaven VI than the AT ESW11LTD.

 

The sense of physical space on the Heaven VI is ridiculous. They lock onto sounds in a way the ESW11LTD doesn't even begin to do.

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I can't read moonrunes as well as I used to (so I didn't actually try), but the FAD site makes that look like an unvented FI-BA-SS and I remember you saying they sounded similar.  Would you know if the drivers are similar, or maybe the same?

 

Re: the Sextetts: I think mine sound really good for headphones I got for $100 but can never find reason to use them anymore.  No idea which ones they are.  RD offered to identify them before.  I should take him up on that.

 


 

 

 

24.  Not sure what I'm doing for/about it yet, but there's a sweet arcade bar on the northside I've been meaning to check out.

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Is there a sub-$500 headphone that pairs really well with the Zana Deux? My HE500's sound pretty good with the ZD, but they always seem to want more power than it can provide.

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HAPPY BURFFDAY!

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Is there a sub-$500 headphone that pairs really well with the Zana Deux? My HE500's sound pretty good with the ZD, but they always seem to want more power than it can provide.

 

SA5000, HD600, K702, K501, K240, W1000

 

 


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I can't read moonrunes as well as I used to (so I didn't actually try), but the FAD site makes that look like an unvented FI-BA-SS and I remember you saying they sounded similar.  Would you know if the drivers are similar, or maybe the same?

 

 

http://final-audio-design.com/en/archives/1707

 

They have some things in common, as do all FAD BAs (since their drivers are proprietary?), but they don't sound too similar. I do think the Heaven VI is the best FAD BA after the FI-BA-SS. Not sure how similar the drivers are.


Edited by MuppetFace - 12/27/12 at 9:11am
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I can't read moonrunes as well as I used to (so I didn't actually try), but the FAD site makes that look like an unvented FI-BA-SS and I remember you saying they sounded similar.  Would you know if the drivers are similar, or maybe the same?

Re: the Sextetts: I think mine sound really good for headphones I got for $100 but can never find reason to use them anymore.  No idea which ones they are.  RD offered to identify them before.  I should take him up on that.





24.  Not sure what I'm doing for/about it yet, but there's a sweet arcade bar on the northside I've been meaning to check out.

It means congratulations. I think someone would get the reference too.
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24.  Not sure what I'm doing for/about it yet, but there's a sweet arcade bar on the northside I've been meaning to check out.

 

Happy Birthday!

 

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*fives*

 

Thanks everyone!

 

It seems like all my friends have awful work schedules today, so I'll be celebrating tomorrow.

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Thanks for the list. The SA5000's look intriguing, but the reviews mention a lack of bass. I like a fair amount of bass in my headphones, so that might be a problem. Plus, some folks in these online reviews claim that "Sony's just die after a few years". I hope that's just nonsense!

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Thanks for the list. The SA5000's look intriguing, but the reviews mention a lack of bass. I like a fair amount of bass in my headphones, so that might be a problem. Plus, some folks in these online reviews claim that "Sony's just die after a few years". I hope that's just nonsense!

 

Yeah, the "Sony products die after a few years" is pretty much BS in my personal experience. The SA5000 is actually extremely well made. Build quality is top notch. It's first on my list of recommendations because the synergy with the Zana Deux SE is jaw dropping. The bass is extremely well-textured, but it's not massive as far as quantity goes. The W1000 also has fantastic synergy (really any Audio-Technica headphone does), but it too lacks bass quantity. Grados tend to have very good synergy with Eddie Current gear, and the PS500 / HF2 are actually very bassy despite the "all Grados lack bass" myth. May want to also consider the Philips Fidelio L1 if you want a basshead headphone.

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1000

 

HAPPPYYYYYYY BIRFFFFDAAAEEEE

 

 

Also, should I get an AD900X, or should I piece together a sexy Magnum build? YOU ALL BE THE JUDGE!


Edited by mosshorn - 12/27/12 at 12:07pm
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