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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

I think music / audio is more sine-waves than it is volume.  I think people tend to use measurements more as a tool of self-satisfaction, rather than as a tool of investigation and science.

 

I feel like they can be helpful, especially in terms of sine wave / square wav graphs telling you how technically competent something might sound or how two headphones might compare. But even then I've found looking at a whole frequency response graph tells me very little; comparing the 7550 to the EX1000 on graphs alone I would not have guessed that the 7550 would be soooo much more to my liking. Looking /

 

 

I love statistics, and I'm fine with looking at measurements, but the similarity of the EX700, EX600, EX800ST, EX1000 on paper, versus how different they sound in real life was perhaps at the core of my dismay.

 

Then followed with novelites like, the square-wave response of EX800ST and Shure SE535 is pretty much identical, the Qualia 010 has the 'worst' square-wave response ever, et cetera.

 

If looking at measurements blind tell me I should expect a Skullcandy Full Metal Jacket, and I'm presented with the sound of a Qualia 010, then something is very seriously missing in their, you know... crystallization of perceptible parameters?, yet very few accede this point, at all.

 

Another annoying feature is that there's a common vast simplification of what the data 'should' look like, it's like there's a magical index of sound relative to performance no one knows about.

 

For example, like you pointed out earlier with the break-up frequencies and distortion, electrostatics inherently have less of all that, is that correct?, they have higher faithfulness to the actual recording venue.  In which case, we (and manufacturers) may as well cease and desist with the inherently flawed dynamic drivers.

 

Statistically, i.e. from a consumer history and product success perspective there's a huge, unaccounted for deviance there.

 

(i.e. relative to the Unicorn book of measurements versus performance index all the quantative data specialists, EE's and objectivists refer to).


Edited by kiteki - 12/10/12 at 6:00pm
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MDR-1R GET!

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Thread Starter 

I still think fit issues play a large role in the Qualia 010's poor measurements and some of the less favorable impressions I've seen.


Edited by MuppetFace - 12/10/12 at 6:06pm
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Okay Mupps, early impressions and all but you did ask a specific question which is pretty easy to answer: the MDR-1R is more spacious than the Momentum. Whether that's from the increased ear cup volume, increased treble emphasis, better treble transients, or the angled drivers, is another question, but the immediate impression is that the Sony's are more spacious.

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I see, how does the Qualia 010 compare versus the STAX SR-009 anyway?

 

 


 

 

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Edited by kiteki - 12/10/12 at 6:38pm
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Thanks for all the jazz. Never really liked jazz much, but the more I watch anime, the more I found songs like these. I thought it was just my biased japanophile in me; it never occurred to me that it could be its own genre.

 

I like Soil & "Pimp" Sessions a lot, first head them with Shiina Ringo on this track:
 



Not sure why its called death jazz, but its really good stuff. In comparison to stuff like smooth jazz -which tends to turn people off of jazz- the energy is really appreciated. Reminds me of the stuff in Cowboy Bebop a little.

 

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Oh, okay, so it's kind of like Crazy Ken Band and other vaguely 60s-inspired jazz pop bands...

 

It mixes really well with a little laid-back hip-hop, unsurprisingly...


Really like this group, thanks!


Edited by Sylverant - 12/10/12 at 7:01pm
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Is this where the cool kids hang? Talkin bout S&P, SR, Mouse on the Keys and Neo Geo? I can dig it. Losalios is another jazz group I dig, their drummer/leader Tatsuya Nakamura used to drum for the very awesome Blankey Jet City. The death jazz thing is just a quirky moniker, I mean what else can you expect from a bunch of guys who put out an album titled Pimp of the Year?
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If I was that cool I would be getting the nerdy kid in class to write my posts for me.
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I have another question for anyone that's here. I've been wanting to play Mass Effect for a while and now that I have a comp powerful enough to play it I'm thinking of buying the ME Collection off Steam (ME1 with the ME2 Digital Deluxe Edition for $40). I know this is very far away, but I can't help but wonder, what are my options once I get to Mass Effect 3? If I buy through Amazon or Gamestop will I be forced to install and play on Origin anyways?

EA clearly won't allow Steam to have it and I'm not particularly fond of Origin. My brother bought FIFA 13 through it months ago and it isn't particularly terrible, but the cloud save services are buggy and the amount of installs allowed are quite limited. He's reinstalled it a few times due to his laptop [unfortunately] having all sorts of hard drive/hardware issues.

To be honest, I'm a little worried about Steam as well. I took a look at Steam's ToS and it basically said the exact same thing as Origin does -but without a specified time limit: that I'm buying a license to play games and not ownership. The idea that I could suddenly lose any of my payed library when Steam removes it worries me. Let's say I make use Steam's game backup service and put everything on DVD's and HD's. Will I be able to reinstall those games and play them a decade from now? That's aside from whether or not my hardware is compatible.

PC gaming is nice, but it bothers me that publishers think they can pull a fast one on us and reserve the right to ownership on when were paying as much for our digital copy as the physical one.

An XBOX 360 might be a really good investment once the next gen microsoft console comes out, now that I think about it...

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Ugh... reminds me of how much I want a Beatmania IIDX controller. These customs look amazing, but oh so expensive:

http://desktoparcade.com/iidasc-beatmania-iidx-arcade-style-controllers-from-desktop-arcade/

http://www.desktoparcade.com/images/iidx2011/IIDA_Doubles_Fighting_Hinomaru_006.jpg

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Is this where the cool kids hang? /

 

Yeah, the sect leader teaches Latin and ancient occult wisdom.  I'm a virtual entity floating around on the internet and in the spirit world, I don't have flesh.

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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

Okay Mupps, early impressions and all but you did ask a specific question which is pretty easy to answer: the MDR-1R is more spacious than the Momentum. Whether that's from the increased ear cup volume, increased treble emphasis, better treble transients, or the angled drivers, is another question, but the immediate impression is that the Sony's are more spacious.

 

Thanks. I look forward to reading more about them in your comparison thread which is becoming quite epic.

 

 


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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

I see, how does the Qualia 010 compare versus the STAX SR-009 anyway?

 

 

009: And the master showed the disciple a tree and asked, "What is this?" To which the disciple answered "a tree."

 

010: And the master showed the disciple a tree and asked, "What is this?" To which the disciple answered "lots of paper."

 

 


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Is this where the cool kids hang?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Sylverant View Post

I have another question for anyone that's here. I've been wanting to play Mass Effect for a while and now that I have a comp powerful enough to play it I'm thinking of buying the ME Collection off Steam (ME1 with the ME2 Digital Deluxe Edition for $40). I know this is very far away, but I can't help but wonder, what are my options once I get to Mass Effect 3? If I buy through Amazon or Gamestop will I be forced to install and play on Origin anyways?

EA clearly won't allow Steam to have it and I'm not particularly fond of Origin. My brother bought FIFA 13 through it months ago and it isn't particularly terrible, but the cloud save services are buggy and the amount of installs allowed are quite limited. He's reinstalled it a few times due to his laptop [unfortunately] having all sorts of hard drive/hardware issues.
 

 

What about the Mass Effect Trilogy that was just released? That contains all three games and only costs a wee bit more I believe.

 

I'm not that versed in the PC version, but it seems like you'd only be "required" to play on Origin if you wanted to do multiplayer and install updates, though I guess EA might have you running it in the background at all times or something?

 

Honestly, ME1 and ME2 are so much better than ME3 anyway. You're almost doing yourself a favor by just playing the first two LOL.

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post

 

 

009: And the master showed the disciple a tree and asked, "What is this?" To which the disciple answered "a tree."

 

010: And the master showed the disciple a tree and asked, "What is this?" To which the disciple answered "lots of paper."

 

 

beautiful shark-girl!

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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post  If I was that cool I would be getting the nerdy kid in class to write my posts for me.

 

As long as I get to keep my lunch money...

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Are we going to look back at this era in gaming in 20 years and see a bunch of ghost towns?

Nevermind 20 years, it's happening this very second. I can remember logging onto Team Fortress 2 on Orange Box for the PS3 around the time that game came out and not running into a single soul. The player counts of BLOP 2 on Wii U number in the hundreds, and Atlus is on the verge of shutting down the servers for Demon's Souls. The timetables for abandonware status has been slightly expedited if you will. And not to worry, people don't want to play ME3 now, let alone 15 years from now. It saves Doc Brown the trouble of warning everyone 

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PC gaming is nice, but it bothers me that publishers think they can pull a fast one on us and reserve the right to ownership on when were paying as much for our digital copy as the physical one.

An XBOX 360 might be a really good investment once the next gen microsoft console comes out, now that I think about it...

I'm not exactly a fan of PC gaming, but over the years, it has struck me as a much more economical choice as apposed to console gaming. You get much more longevity out of building a decent system, and you aren't subjected to the horrendous technical issues of trying to squeeze blood from a stone as is the case with many devs trying their damnedest to get their engines running on ancient hardware. Stuff like Viewmasteresque framerates, Vaseline-O-vision IQ, and tear-tastic lack of V-sync won't be as much (if at all) of an issue barring lack of optimization. And that's not even touching upon fancy pants higher res textures, ambient occlusion, and all the AA your GPU can handle before buckling at its figurative knees. Stuff like Steam sales will also ensure that you spend much more of your time sighing at an unconquerable backlog than actually playing games. However, if you've got to have your console exclusives, it does help to have a supplementary console on the side so you can keep up with your Marios, Nathan Drakes and Master Chiefs. 

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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

 

Yeah, the sect leader teaches Latin and ancient occult wisdom.  I'm a virtual entity floating around on the internet and in the spirit world, I don't have flesh.

I wasn't aware that this was a cult. I must've missed the memo. Where does Tom Cruise fit in among your ranks?

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1000

 

 

That really brings to mind, Miike's horror short "Box" 

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