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Yeah strange thing is after a while you can't live without them...

re LoL I used to play DoTA about 5 years ago and when I watch LoL replays I have NO idea what's going on:blink:. SC2 I can follow and understand why one sides wins etc but I also play the game occasionally and used to watch Korean Brood War competitions (I do miss those crazy Korean commentators.)
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That includes iphones too.  Jailbroken or not...

 

 

 

 

Don't knock it til you've tried it. You've tried android, now try something else.

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Don't knock it til you've tried it. You've tried android, now try something else.


I wish there was something better then either iOS or Android. I'd love to see some unknown dark horse come out of nowhere and blindside both of the obnoxious fan clubs. Heck, I'd give away free tickets and make buttered popcorn for the event.

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I wish there was something better then either iOS or Android. I'd love to see some unknown dark horse come out of nowhere and blindside both of the obnoxious fan clubs. Heck, I'd give away free tickets and make buttered popcorn for the event.
I reckon meego could hav3 been that os except for the fact that nokia decided to discontinue it......
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Windows 8?
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Don't knock it til you've tried it. You've tried android, now try something else.

 

Did I miss the iphone without a touchscreen?  'Cuz hat's my biggest problem with 'smart' phones.  It's an automatic usability fail in my book because you have to look at them to know what you're 'pressing'.  Most modern devices loose more points for being capacitive so I need a special stylus and can't just tap on it with the nearest random object that's smaller than my finger.

 

I never even mentioned any specifics about the OS.  It was mostly about crappy form factor and controls which all 'smart' phones share.  (Please tell me I'm wrong and find an exception out there.  Find a 4G smartphone that flips open and has buttons.  I'm begging you...)  From the standpoint of just wanting to use it as a phone the OS is almost irrelevant.  iOS is still bloated though because most of what it does is not just unrelated to making phone calls and storing contacts (and maybe other phone related tasks like SMS and a calender) but at the expense of what is supposedly it's primary function.

 

I mean it's called the iPhone for cryin' out loud.  It's not called the iPad Nano 4G or iPod Touch Cell Radio but either of those names would be more descriptive.

 

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I wouldn't have much need for my cellphone if it wasn't a little pocket computer. It gets hours of use every day whereas my pre-smartphone phones got about 15 minutes of use a week.

 

Being overseas and not being able to look up location, numbers, reference info, and so on whenever I felt the need (nevermind time-passing things like web browsing and email-checking) really drove home to me how dependent I've gotten on mine in daily use; I was far more hobbled by that than by being unable to make or place calls. So it seems weird to see smartphone features unilaterally dismissed as bloat.

 

The only thing I like about the S3 is that it's a 4G hotspot. so I'll just use my netbook for that kind of stuff.  I find it far more convenient.  I'd rather have separate devices that do their jobs well rather than one half-assed device that goes everything poorly.  That's why I call it bloat.

 

Even if I needed a pocket computer rather than a man-purse sized one I'd rather just have a RAZR V3 upgraded to 4G with a hot spot and a separate Galaxy Player/iTouch/whatever.

 

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I wish there was something better then either iOS or Android. I'd love to see some unknown dark horse come out of nowhere and blindside both of the obnoxious fan clubs. Heck, I'd give away free tickets and make buttered popcorn for the event.

 

I do agree but that's far from my biggest problem with the devices on the market right now.


Edited by maverickronin - 11/5/12 at 8:55pm
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Did I miss the iphone without a touchscreen?  'Cuz hat's my biggest problem with 'smart' phones.  It's an automatic usability fail in my book because you have to look at them to know what you're 'pressing'.  Most modern devices loose more points for being capacitive so I need a special stylus and can't just tap on it with the nearest random object that's smaller than my finger.

 

I never even mentioned any specifics about the OS.  It was mostly about crappy form factor and controls which all 'smart' phones share.  (Please tell me I'm wrong and find an exception out there.  Find a 4G smartphone that flips open and has buttons.  I'm begging you...)  From the standpoint of just wanting to use it as a phone the OS is almost irrelevant.  iOS is still bloated though because most of what it does is not just unrelated to making phone calls and storing contacts (and maybe other phone related tasks like SMS and a calender) but at the expense of what is supposedly it's primary function.

 

I mean it's called the iPhone for cryin' out loud.  It's not called the iPad Nano 4G or iPod Touch Cell Radio but either of those names would be more descriptive.

 

 

 

Wow. I think this is what you truly want then:

 

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Did I miss the iphone without a touchscreen?  'Cuz hat's my biggest problem with 'smart' phones.  It's an automatic usability fail in my book because you have to look at them to know what you're 'pressing'.  Most modern devices loose more points for being capacitive so I need a special stylus and can't just tap on it with the nearest random object that's smaller than my finger.

 

Stylus huh Note 2? 

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if you are purely interested in writing emails and messages the blackberry form factor works well (with touchscreens half the screen is taken up by the on screen keypad anyway.) Reading documents is much easier on a bigger screen though - its a trade off between ease of typing and ease of reading IMO.
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The diary entries of a little boy nearing 30.

 

<endless smartphone rant ... >

 

Get a grip, you're much too young to be so unadaptable. wink.gif

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I wish there was something better then either iOS or Android. I'd love to see some unknown dark horse come out of nowhere and blindside both of the obnoxious fan clubs. Heck, I'd give away free tickets and make buttered popcorn for the event.

 

I really hoped Palm Pre would had a chance, since Meego, Android, etc. are, to be totally honest, unappealing and obstructive to users besides those who are willing to or want to invest the time necessary to hack and modify them.

 

Pre hit the market raw and unfinished, though. You can get away with that in Android type environments because the userbase most interested in it are the ones who are going to tear it down and rebuild it to their liking. For non-geeks, if it's not a seamless experience when you take it out of the box, it's only going to look like a watered-down knockoff of the competition, which is seamless.

 

It genuinely upset me when HP bought Palm and killed it.

 

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The only thing I like about the S3 is that it's a 4G hotspot. so I'll just use my netbook for that kind of stuff.  I find it far more convenient.  I'd rather have separate devices that do their jobs well rather than one half-assed device that goes everything poorly.  That's why I call it bloat.

 

Why should I encumber myself with extra devices when I can do all that so efficiently with one device that fits in my pocket?

 

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Get a grip, you're much too young to be so unadaptable. wink.gif

 

And too old to be so willfully cynical.

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I really hoped Palm Pre would had a chance, since Meego, Android, etc. are, to be totally honest, unappealing and obstructive to users besides those who are willing to or want to invest the time necessary to hack and modify them.

Pre hit the market raw and unfinished, though. You can get away with that in Android type environments because the userbase most interested in it are the ones who are going to tear it down and rebuild it to their liking. For non-geeks, if it's not a seamless experience when you take it out of the box, it's only going to look like a watered-down knockoff of the competition, which is seamless. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It genuinely upset me when HP bought Palm and killed it.


Why should I encumber myself with extra devices when I can do all that so efficiently with one device that fits in my pocket?


And too old to be so willfully cynical.

I don't think Andriod is that obstructive in itself, the problem is when the carries get a hold of a new OS update and screw things up. When in comes to performance and UI Apple still have a slight advantage if you are willing to do things their way, and pay for the privilege ( I can hardly talk as I just ordered a retina MBP.)

Why are we all not interested in Windows 8 though - it is a pretty clear attempt to rival the Apple ecosystem. Personally I am a little dissapointed by reviews of the Surface tablet, but in some ways they are on the right track IMO.

So far as far as seamless concept is concerned the apple approach seems to have delivered the best results, so given this I think Microsoft's attempts at designing hardware should seem the most likely company to challenge this seamlessness.
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I would also argue that WP7 is also kind of great for less tech inclined users. My mom can semi-master it in 2 weeks. The first few days she does need my help, but after that, she's even better than me LOL. (note I used Symbian for the past 4 years, and followed WP7 semi-closely, so 10 minutes of use is enough to get me some orientation). I don't know about WP8 though, but I've seem to poison my friend to get one of the Lumia WP8. So I'll see.

In audio news, I finally got to use this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/323271/alessandro-ms1000-and-ms-ultimate-diy-modding-56k-warning
I almost doesn't remember how the MS1i sound now, but I can tell that it's for the better. And slightly more comfortable, but still can get very uncomfortable for my ears in 2 hours or so. Even though I've had it for 3 weeks or so, I still can't pin down the sound that well yet, mostly because of the comfort, and it's open; using a mechanical keyboard and sharing the room with 2 other people is very hindering. I also don't know what to compare them to. I have a quartermodded Portapro, a modded T50RP and a couple of IEMs which I think isn't too fair to compare to. Hmm.
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Wow. I think this is what you truly want then:

 

They barely even make anything like that anymore

 

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Stylus huh Note 2? 

 

Does it need a special one or can I poke at it with whatever key/pen/stick I happen to be holding like I can with my DS?  (That's a touch screen done right BTW.  It should augment physical buttons.)

 

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if you are purely interested in writing emails and messages the blackberry form factor works well (with touchscreens half the screen is taken up by the on screen keypad anyway.) Reading documents is much easier on a bigger screen though - its a trade off between ease of typing and ease of reading IMO.

 

I can't type very well on those either.  They're better than touch screens but they're still too damn small.  I don't want to type, send emails, or read documents on it.  I just want a good phone with a cell modem for my laptop/netbook in it but that product doesn't seem to exist.

 

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Why should I encumber myself with extra devices when I can do all that so efficiently with one device that fits in my pocket?

 

I don't think it's very efficient at all.  It might take up less space but I think it's far more cumbersome to actually use.

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They barely even make anything like that anymore

 

There are still a lot of feature phones with buttons in the world. I see them everywhere. Heck, I use one. I only make calls with my mobile phone, nothing else.

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