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If Neil Young is signing off on its sound quality I doubt it'll have rolled off highs. Judging from the albums of his that I have, the man likes his treble strong.
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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

the man likes needs his treble strong.

 

Just guessing, based on age and hours spent on stage. ;) 

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

@Warren
You've heard the Pono, is this a well done neutralish sounding player or are we talking standard mainstream bassy warm sig with rolled off highs?

 

No, it sounded decent, though not exactly mind-blowing.  Still, this was a prototype from earlier last year, so it's probably not using the Ayre hardware.

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I really like the triangular shape lending the profile a face-up glance. Not to mention possibly sitting on the desk looking chic next to my Rhodia pencil. :normal_smile : Ok ok, not everyone is Hollywood... :rolleyes: still, it just might look good on the desk. Might also be a cute & cuddly thing to share with that someone special - 2 headphones and a Pono. 

 

What I find amusing is all the mobile stacks I see in transit - DAP/AMP/Accessories all rubber-banded together. And suddenly Pono is sittin' on crates not chrome as a no go? Good sound will always motivate music lovers to adapt. As someone who cycles with an armband for iPhone, negotiating traffic (walking-driving-cycling) with Pono presents to no real challenges to me.

 

What I'm interested in learning is the breakdown of green environmental parts.

:popcorn:

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Does anyone know if the ATH-ES10 has marked serial numbers? Helping someone track down some possibly fishy business...

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:eek: Uh-oh! Hopefully not counterfiet and no servicing in sight. Glad you're able to help.

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My opinion on Pono. As you guys can tell its been a long work week for me and I'm wasted and need some wrest

 

 

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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

I predict a future in head-fi full of "Is that a pono in your pocket or are you to happy to see me?" jokes and pictures.

 

They should just get it over with and name it "the porno stick" ;)...

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Yeah Neil talks about low quality original masters in his Esquire interview. Nothing can be done there.

I'm talking about the supposed es9018 dac chip being used. Assuming that's correct, there is greater potential for implementation than say a dual es9018-2m. The larger, odd shaped housing lets them work with larger quality components like cap size, discrete components and battery implementation.

Taking all that into account and getting one for $200 or $300 seems like a complete steal to me. With Ayre involved, I'd hope this to clearly surpass say Herus SQ. At this point it's a gamble without definitive specifications but I see it as a cheap and fairly calculated gamble.

Edit: even if it ends up being the 2m mobile version, it still ends up being much cheaper than what the marketplace has right now. Competition is good.
I am not saying this Pono is a bad thing...more attention to the audiophile world is always good. I do not even care about Hires, but even more stores carrying FLAC.

Chips mean little to me as from what I understand implementation is the key. The Tera or Studio V achieve great results with "crappy" components whereas AKs failed to impress me with good chips. And there are an increasing number of of sub 500$ good sounding players, thanks to HSA, Fiio amd iBasso to name only them.

So all in all, when I consider the ridiculous ergonomics of the shape, the crappy esthetics, the only average capacity by today's standards, the seemingly basic UI, I am unimpressed. The marketing hype drives me even further away. Only the presence and reputation of Ayre and the fact that Young does like music reassure me.
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


I am not saying this Pono is a bad thing...more attention to the audiophile world is always good. I do not even care about Hires, but even more stores carrying FLAC.

Chips mean little to me as from what I understand implementation is the key. The Tera or Studio V achieve great results with "crappy" components whereas AKs failed to impress me with good chips. And there are an increasing number of of sub 500$ good sounding players, thanks to HSA, Fiio amd iBasso to name only them.

So all in all, when I consider the ridiculous ergonomics of the shape, the crappy esthetics, the only average capacity by today's standards, the seemingly basic UI, I am unimpressed. The marketing hype drives me even further away. Only the presence and reputation of Ayre and the fact that Young does like music reassure me.

 

Lol, that's what I think about the Fiio's, iBasso's and HSA's of the audio world, which have hype threads all over Head-Fi.  I'm paying $200 for the black one, so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy for that amount and the prospect of getting closer to desktop quality components seems like a reasonable gamble for me. If not, eh, it's only $200 and chance to help get the message across about better quality mastering to the record labels.

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Bah - the record labels are always going to cater to the 14-19 year-olds that know only what the marketing departments tell them. The audiophile is just a minor market to them.
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I just read the latest news that Malay officials are now saying they have transmission pings from the plane's ACARS system for an additional 5 hours after they lost the ATC contact?? That sounds really ominous - if true, then someone either knew what to do to turn off the transponder, or they knew enough to force the pilot to do it. It also means that plane traveled a long way in those additional 5 hours.
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Lol, that's what I think about the Fiio's, iBasso's and HSA's of the audio world, which have hype threads all over Head-Fi.  I'm paying $200 for the black one, so I'm pretty sure I'll be happy for that amount and the prospect of getting closer to desktop quality components seems like a reasonable gamble for me. If not, eh, it's only $200 and chance to help get the message across about better quality mastering to the record labels.

One of the main questions I brought up in my video was about proper mastering. Will these files on Pono Music be properly mastered or just the same old same old compressed stuff you can buy anywhere in 24 bit? That's the question I'd like a clear answer to right now.

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The big guy himself speaks out and explains himself. He's really putting himself out there by stating Pono will become bigger then vinyl. For his sake I hope Pono delivers in every way because if it doesn't he just set himself up to be tagged as a company buzz word man. As for the he never met anyone who couldn't tell a difference between an MP3 and high res, he should hang out on here for a bit. There's plenty of people on here who claim they can't hear a difference between an MP3 and FLAC file.

 

 

 

I actually created a kickstarter account and had my info filled out and got to the amazon payment page but stopped myself from hitting the confirm icon when I saw this video. To many red flags. Am I alone in being cynical?


Edited by DigitalFreak - 3/15/14 at 9:32pm
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Running a business is nothing new for Neil Young. One of my past hobbies was collecting Lionel O-gauge model trains. Neil Young was also a HUGE Lionel model train fan. He has two disabled sons, Ben and Zeke. Ben has severe cerebral palsy. Ben loved the trains, but he didn't have the motor skills to operate them. In the 1980s, Neil came up with an entirely new wireless control system for the trains that included a big red "easy button" type of control that allowed Ben to begin participating in the train operations. He went to the Lionel company and convinced them to partner with him to create a new company called Liontech to engineer the new controls. Ultimately, Liontech was purchased by Lionel, and Neil Young owns about 20% of Lionel. The Trainmaster control system he developed is *still* the predominant system for all Lionel O-Gauge trains.

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