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That seems to what happened to a few of my friends' lower end Vaios. My dad's pro 13 or something is still going strong though. *shrug*

Curious though, but have your company entertained the thought of, ummm supplying?... MS's Surface Pro (2)? Interestingly, I've been eyeing it for personal use, replacing my Nexus 7 2012, and somewhat supplementing my I-should've-waited-a-bit-longer 2 years old lower end gaming laptop. Mostly because I just want to use the exact same setup on my laptop to watch anime and stream anime from official sites that still uses flash (and too cheap to subscribe for the mobile app :P )

We have been playing with the idea of tablets as the primary machines for some users. There are some issues with that in a corporate environment - mostly with very basic problems like trying to run old business applications on the latest HW/SW. Oracle eBusiness Suite is the worst. We are running on the latest available version, and it still has specific requirements for the browser version, Java JRE & OS that are back at least one major rev. It's pathetic. You might be able to hack it into running OK, but the vendor won't provide support for that configuration, and you would need to prove to them that whatever issue you are having is also happening on the "supported" HW/SW. The other issue is the ridiculous way some corporate users try to use their computers. Try running a pivot table on a 2 gigabyte Excel spreadsheet on your tablet... rolleyes.gif When I tell them that's a silly, stupid thing to try to do on ANY computer - well, you can imagine the response... biggrin.gif

I have always liked cats, and cats like me - but I'm a dog person - big, silly, slobbery dogs... tongue.gif
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Oh right. Backwards compatibility.
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We have been playing with the idea of tablets as the primary machines for some users. There are some issues with that in a corporate environment - mostly with very basic problems like trying to run old business applications on the latest HW/SW. Oracle eBusiness Suite is the worst. We are running on the latest available version, and it still has specific requirements for the browser version, Java JRE & OS that are back at least one major rev. It's pathetic. You might be able to hack it into running OK, but the vendor won't provide support for that configuration, and you would need to prove to them that whatever issue you are having is also happening on the "supported" HW/SW. The other issue is the ridiculous way some corporate users try to use their computers. Try running a pivot table on a 2 gigabyte Excel spreadsheet on your tablet... rolleyes.gif When I tell them that's a silly, stupid thing to try to do on ANY computer - well, you can imagine the response... biggrin.gif
We're looking at a software package where the front end GUI targets IE8 or IE9 32bit. This is for patient records. Realllly?? eek.gif
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We're looking at a software package where the front end GUI targets IE8 or IE9 32bit. This is for patient records. Realllly?? eek.gif

Welcome to my world! We also have software we get directly from UPS that *REQUIRES* 32 bit Windows - it simply can't be installed on a 64 bit OS. It simply baffles me that companies can get away with that cr@p!! So, all of our shipping department has to run 32 bit Windows. We tried using a 32 bit VM that they could use via RDP, but it was a disaster - way too complicated for those guys. They couldn't seem to remember what apps they should run in the RDP window and what they should run on their local desktop. We finally gave up and just re-imaged their workstations to 32 bit Windows.
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"You mean I'm using a computer that's using a computer??"

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This is our typical user - Jack not name, Jack job!


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We have been playing with the idea of tablets as the primary machines for some users. There are some issues with that in a corporate environment - mostly with very basic problems like trying to run old business applications on the latest HW/SW. Oracle eBusiness Suite is the worst. We are running on the latest available version, and it still has specific requirements for the browser version, Java JRE & OS that are back at least one major rev. It's pathetic. You might be able to hack it into running OK, but the vendor won't provide support for that configuration, and you would need to prove to them that whatever issue you are having is also happening on the "supported" HW/SW. The other issue is the ridiculous way some corporate users try to use their computers. Try running a pivot table on a 2 gigabyte Excel spreadsheet on your tablet... rolleyes.gif When I tell them that's a silly, stupid thing to try to do on ANY computer - well, you can imagine the response... biggrin.gif

I have always liked cats, and cats like me - but I'm a dog person - big, silly, slobbery dogs... tongue.gif


We're going the hybrid route - with the Lenovo Yoga 2.  I have mine now for about a week and LOVE it.  Does everything my Dell tower could do but better and faster (that is only because my tower was 3 years old).  Loving the Windows 8 environment as well.   I'd guess that 2GB pivot table would run just fine on my Yoga. 

 

We did a small sampling test on Surface's but the Yoga won out easily. 

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Welcome to my world! We also have software we get directly from UPS that *REQUIRES* 32 bit Windows - it simply can't be installed on a 64 bit OS. It simply baffles me that companies can get away with that cr@p!! So, all of our shipping department has to run 32 bit Windows. We tried using a 32 bit VM that they could use via RDP, but it was a disaster - way too complicated for those guys. They couldn't seem to remember what apps they should run in the RDP window and what they should run on their local desktop. We finally gave up and just re-imaged their workstations to 32 bit Windows.


You talking about Worldship?  That's good to know - I'll tell my IT guy tho I'm sure some people will still be on towers like my Engineering guys running SolidWorks for the designing they do. 

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My work went with uberlaptops. Almost maxed out I7s. We're fairly stationary anyways so no need for tablets. Some of the guys ( Management) got Surface Pros. They're nice but I can't justify spending that much for one. frown.gif
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q.q I need to get out of College so I can work as an IT guy in a fancy firm 

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Yeah, fancy firms with totl i7 workstations with 16gbs of ram! I think it's a bad idea giving your software dev team computers that powerful because we start coding ridiculous programs that other depts can't run. lol tongue.gif
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The IT guys usually get the leftover scraps for their workstations. Sometimes it works out OK - we'll keep the "special" laptop that an executive just *had* to have, but then they hated it or they got canned. Since it's a non-standard machine we can't let it out into the wild, so we keep it for IT consumption.

I actually try to be good - I use what *looks* like one of our standard Dell worker-bee laptops. I want to make a statement to the other managers that our standard machine is plenty good enough. Now, what I don't tell them is that my "standard" laptop actually has 256GB SSD drive, extra memory and a Verizon 4G card built-in. There has to be *some* perks for having the thankless job of head of IT... wink.gif
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We have been playing with the idea of tablets as the primary machines for some users. There are some issues with that in a corporate environment - mostly with very basic problems like trying to run old business applications on the latest HW/SW. Oracle eBusiness Suite is the worst. We are running on the latest available version, and it still has specific requirements for the browser version, Java JRE & OS that are back at least one major rev. It's pathetic. You might be able to hack it into running OK, but the vendor won't provide support for that configuration, and you would need to prove to them that whatever issue you are having is also happening on the "supported" HW/SW. The other issue is the ridiculous way some corporate users try to use their computers. Try running a pivot table on a 2 gigabyte Excel spreadsheet on your tablet... rolleyes.gif When I tell them that's a silly, stupid thing to try to do on ANY computer - well, you can imagine the response... biggrin.gif

I have always liked cats, and cats like me - but I'm a dog person - big, silly, slobbery dogs... tongue.gif

How do you even get a single worksheet to 2 gigabytes??

I had about 15 columns and 3.5 million lines of an Access table and tried to run a pivot on it in Access a couple of days ago. 8 gigs of memory is apparently not enough. That file was like 50 megabytes I think.
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The IT guys usually get the leftover scraps for their workstations. Sometimes it works out OK - we'll keep the "special" laptop that an executive just *had* to have, but then they hated it or they got canned. Since it's a non-standard machine we can't let it out into the wild, so we keep it for IT consumption.

I actually try to be good - I use what *looks* like one of our standard Dell worker-bee laptops. I want to make a statement to the other managers that our standard machine is plenty good enough. Now, what I don't tell them is that my "standard" laptop actually has 256GB SSD drive, extra memory and a Verizon 4G card built-in. There has to be *some* perks for having the thankless job of head of IT... wink.gif
Rule of thumb is to make sure it doesn't look flashy. Our workstations are pretty unassuming. It's huge and looks like a brick. Does not impress the execs. But, the specs will make a nerd drool. biggrin.gif

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Nothing means business more than a maxxed out ThinkPad in black, my weapon of choice.
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