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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Humph, the new Westone headphone looks rather unassuming for a 5500 bone flagship


Hey Lachlan, you're a stickler for design and function. Going from the early pic you think this new headphone may be a ergonomic Godsend? It doesn't look like it'll weight that much, matter of fact it looks a little flimsy.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

I knew these phones reminded me of something...the shield of He Man!

heman2.jpg

Wow $5500 and it looks a lot like a plastic Kids toy... thanks westone 

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I don't know about comfort (a dual driver headphone should be heavy and distributing that weight across such a thin headband seems dubious) but all I can say is that I hope that is preproduction because it looks hideous.

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The fancy speaker tech is alright but the question is, will it match or beat electrostats?
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That kind of pricetag is offputting to me, so I'm not really interested in the headphones themselves. I trust that a company such as Westone at least has a grasp on what they're doing, so I'm sure the headphones will sound good. I am however anticipating a certain head-fi rage, because inevitably there will be at least one head-fier dipping his/her toes in that water, and possibly give very positive impressions which will not sit well with certain summit-fiers who are of the very strong opinion that headphones with such pricetags should at least look classy. I guess I can respect such opinions since I'm vain when it comes to headphones as well, however, I have a feeling that feels will flow and schiits will be given.

 

:popcorn:

 

On another note, yeah I know I just wrote I wouldn't buy IEMs, but I actually ordered the Sony xb90ex IEMs from Japan because I really, really like the XBs and actually miss their sound when I'm commuting (I wear IEMs for commuting, circumaural/supras indoors). It wasn't a lot of money, so I guess it's not a big loss if I won't like them, but yeah, that's the way I roll. Also, I ordered a pair of Denon D400's as well. I know they're not especially liked on head-fi, but neither were the XB's, and I have a feeling that I will actually like them. The pricetag of $99 isn't a whole lot of money either, so not a big loss there either. They cost almost $500 here in Sweden, so I suppose I can at least sell them for $99 if I wouldn't like them. I think I will like them though. They're basically made for me: bassy comfortable headphones made for hiphop and EDM. Oh well, we'll see.

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

That... was a good song actually! My question is... why does Late 80's UK Rock, sound like early 90's US Rock :O did the whole Punk Alternative Rock thing start over there too! 

 

What bands do you have in mind? Early 90s rock descended directly from the punk/post-punk genres, and the much-Vaunted Seattle scene has antecedents in (and share a lot of performers with) various mid-late 80s American labels like Amphetamine Reptile, Homestead, Taang!, Touch and Go, K, and many, many more.

 

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EDIT: "At ordinary temperatures, beryllium resists oxidation in air, although its ability to scratch glass is probably due to the formation of a thin layer of the oxide." Awww. That's no fun.

 

I wonder if this means Beryllium is very brittle.

 

Aluminum also forms a thin oxide layer, within milliseconds of exposure. This layer seals the surface and prevents oxidation from penetrating further into the material. I think magnesium also behaves this way -- you can get violent, explosive oxidation out of Magnesium but it involves a whole lot of applied heat in some form.

 

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

OMG, someone tell me we won't see 10 000 dollar plus flagships by the end of 2020.

 

By 2015 is my expectation. Possibly by the end of this year. (arguably it already happened over a decade ago, if you count the Sennheiser Orpheus.)

 

$1500 headphones of 2015 will be just as good or better than $1500 headphones of early 2014, though. So don't let the proliferation of unobtanium bother you.

 

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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

Humph, the new Westone headphone looks rather unassuming for a 5500 bone flagship


Hey Lachlan, you're a stickler for design and function. Going from the early pic you think this new headphone may be a ergonomic Godsend? It doesn't look like it'll weight that much, matter of fact it looks a little flimsy.

 

I thought head-fiers were all about function over style. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

More seriously, I would be really really surprised if that's not anything other than an internal prototype that somebody decided to bring to a show.


Edited by ardgedee - 1/24/14 at 4:05pm
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What bands do you have in mind? Early 90s rock descended directly from the punk/post-punk genres, and the much-Vaunted Seattle scene has antecedents in (and share a lot of performers with) various mid-late 80s American labels like Amphetamine Reptile, Homestead, Taang!, Touch and Go, K, and many, many more.

 

 

Aluminum also forms a thin oxide layer, within milliseconds of exposure. This layer seals the surface and prevents oxidation from penetrating further into the material. I think magnesium also behaves this way -- you can get violent, explosive oxidation out of Magnesium but it involves a whole lot of applied heat in some form.

 

 

By 2015 is my expectation. Possibly by the end of this year. (arguably it already happened over a decade ago, if you count the Sennheiser Orpheus.)

 

$1500 headphones of 2015 will be just as good or better than $1500 headphones of early 2014, though. So don't let the proliferation of unobtanium bother you.

 

 

I thought head-fiers were all about function over style. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

More seriously, I would be really really surprised if that's not anything other than an internal prototype that somebody decided to bring to a show.

I'm all about function over looks, but... that's... I mean it would b cheaper to just go into a solid color... unless that driver cover is some kind of nifty dampening device with multiple layers of dampening material... IT'S A SONIC SHEILD... but at $5500 it better look and sound great 

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According to Focal, Beryllium is the "ultimate material for a tweeter dome"
http://www.focal.com/en/content/18-beryllium-tweeter

It wouldn't surprise me if Focal engineers had a hand in the Westone design. I think there have also been some big controversies over Be & Be alloy speaker drivers, having to do with the small amount of Be actually used in some "Be drivers".

On the Westone's - I think they made them look that ugly so no one at the show would steal them. I sure as he11 wouldn't... tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

OMG, someone tell me we won't see 10 000 dollar plus flagships by the end of 2020. Such over the top pricing would be the end of the little guys like myself. I want to see the hobby put out bigger and better sounding headphones but 5000, 7500, 10 000 bone flagships plus the audio chain needed to drive it would be untouchable for 80% of us in this crazy hobby.

 

Yeah it's a little disappointing that they are making such an expensive headphone, maybe they can source some cheaper tweeter/woofer drivers or something but this assumes the exercise will bear a headphone worthy of the price.  I guess when you charge $1300 for some balanced armatures in a plastic housing you really have to charge a lot more for Beryllium driver headphones?:biggrin:

 

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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post
 

I don't know about comfort (a dual driver headphone should be heavy and distributing that weight across such a thin headband seems dubious) but all I can say is that I hope that is preproduction because it looks hideous.

 

Yes, the pictured headphones are truly hideous, question begs if they are pre production why show such an ugly prototype, why not show a beautiful looking headphone and then deliver a finished product which looks close to that?  I assume the prototype they showed was not working ie able to make music?


Edited by drez - 1/25/14 at 12:12am
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doomsaying is interesting and all, but lets go back to something affordable for everyone here,aye? Just tried all 3 of the sony hybrid iems. Store demo caveat. Dislike the h2, there's just something off about them. H3 is amazingly intriguing, love the sound of it. H1 is amazingly normal lol. Also tried the 1rbtmk2. Amaazing all around, well slightly bassy, but 2 major flaws for me: sibilant up the wazoo and recessed female vocals.
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

doomsaying is interesting and all, but lets go back to something affordable for everyone here,aye? Just tried all 3 of the sony hybrid iems. Store demo caveat. Dislike the h2, there's just something off about them. H3 is amazingly intriguing, love the sound of it. H1 is amazingly normal lol. Also tried the 1rbtmk2. Amaazing all around, well slightly bassy, but 2 major flaws for me: sibilant up the wazoo and recessed female vocals.

YAY iems...those things I never listen to :D 

 

I did enjoy the DOOM SAYING more, but I agree on the thought of moving to a topic that is more in every one's price range

 

On the subject of iems... do you guys have favorites based purely on comfort or looks, if so i'd love to see them! I'm always intriguied about how nicely IEMS are packaged some times, and the plethura of goodies they come with... kind of jealous that Headphones don't come with a leather bad and 3 sets of changeable ear pieces [or ePads] I can ofc understand why headphones dont have teh stuff, but that doesn't mean I can't wish they did...

 

still iems often have extra goodies, and i like extra goodies... so SHOW ME THEM GOODIES :D

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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

doomsaying is interesting and all, but lets go back to something affordable for everyone here,aye? Just tried all 3 of the sony hybrid iems. Store demo caveat. Dislike the h2, there's just something off about them. H3 is amazingly intriguing, love the sound of it. H1 is amazingly normal lol. Also tried the 1rbtmk2. Amaazing all around, well slightly bassy, but 2 major flaws for me: sibilant up the wazoo and recessed female vocals.

Im tempted to get an H1 just for fun

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Me too to be honest. It's only 499 malaysian bucks for the h1, and 999 malaysian bucks for the h3. I kind of like the h1 as this normal thing. Like "i should have this just because it sounds just right".
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

Me too to be honest. It's only 499 malaysian bucks for the h1, and 999 malaysian bucks for the h3. I kind of like the h1 as this normal thing. Like "i should have this just because it sounds just right".

... how goes the job search btw. 

 

I just recently started a hunt my self 

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Have there been any really good dual-driver headphones yet?  The only ones I've heard thus far sounded awful and I don't remember impressions of a shiny Japanese headphone someone posted somewhere being the most positive either.

 

... were the newer FAD headphones dual-driver?  I can't remember now.


Edited by driver 8 - 1/25/14 at 10:29am
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