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I didn't know about the LE A900X! Know any info about that? The IEMs certainly look tasty. I wish I could read Japanese.

 

I would guess that a quad BA is meant to outdo the CK100 Pro at 60,000 Yen but then again it's not made of shiny metals so who knows. But you should definitely listen to the CK100Pro. The ergonomics kind of stop me from buying a pair but each time I hear a friend's they are sound pretty special and I reckon you would like them. It's one of the more Audio Technica things that Audio Technica makes.

 

All I know is that it's limited? Can't read the nihongo either.

 

The CK100 PRO was meant to be part of ATH's 50th anniversary celebrations, and hence the heavy use of precious (okay, not-so-precious) metals. So far, from what I'm seeing from the design, the IM03 looks similar to the CK100 PRO; it's likely that the drivers were directly transplanted over, except the tube configuration is different now (which honestly affects sound more). The IM02 seems like a slightly tweaked version of the CK90PRO MK2, but the IM01 is a brand-new design with a brand-new driver (I have an idea which one, but can't be sure). It goes without saying that the IM04 is new design. All four models make use of the acoustic horn design carried over from previous models, which is a good thing.

 

I'd once again like to affirm my deep-rooted admiration for the CK100PRO; it is both ear-piercing and awesome.

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All I know is that it's limited? Can't read the nihongo either.

 

The CK100 PRO was meant to be part of ATH's 50th anniversary celebrations, and hence the heavy use of precious (okay, not-so-precious) metals. So far, from what I'm seeing from the design, the IM03 looks similar to the CK100 PRO; it's likely that the drivers were directly transplanted over, except the tube configuration is different now (which honestly affects sound more). The IM02 seems like a slightly tweaked version of the CK90PRO MK2, but the IM01 is a brand-new design with a brand-new driver (I have an idea which one, but can't be sure). It goes without saying that the IM04 is new design. All four models make use of the acoustic horn design carried over from previous models, which is a good thing.

 

I'd once again like to affirm my deep-rooted admiration for the CK100PRO; it is both ear-piercing and awesome.

 

Yay acoustic horn! :D Did they ever get the patent for that? You would think that there is plenty of prior art, unless it really is 'non obvious' to shrink it down to that size.

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All I know is that it's limited? Can't read the nihongo either.

 

The CK100 PRO was meant to be part of ATH's 50th anniversary celebrations, and hence the heavy use of precious (okay, not-so-precious) metals. So far, from what I'm seeing from the design, the IM03 looks similar to the CK100 PRO; it's likely that the drivers were directly transplanted over, except the tube configuration is different now (which honestly affects sound more). The IM02 seems like a slightly tweaked version of the CK90PRO MK2, but the IM01 is a brand-new design with a brand-new driver (I have an idea which one, but can't be sure). It goes without saying that the IM04 is new design. All four models make use of the acoustic horn design carried over from previous models, which is a good thing.

 

I'd once again like to affirm my deep-rooted admiration for the CK100PRO; it is both ear-piercing and awesome.


So I take it the CK100PRO is about to go out of production or was it a limited production to begin with?

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So I take it the CK100PRO is about to go out of production or was it a limited production to begin with?

 

Ooh I don't know. If it was limited I might seriously consider getting a pair. It's never been cheaper on Amazon JP that's for sure.

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I realize this isn't exactly breaking news, however I thought I'd mention that

AKG is launching a new flagship headphone....

 

 

 

K812

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/headphones/1302967/akg-launches-1-000-k812-reference-headphones-hands-on

 

Photos courtesy of the above site.

 

I'm rather interested in this thing, as it's been quite some time since AKG released a new statement headphone. The K3003 is their current flagship to my mind, in much the same spirit of the K1000 but better than the K1000 in overall tonal balance. However in terms of circumaural headphones, they've been milking the K701 / 702 for all its worth over the years. The Q701 was a slight sonic improvement, and the anniversary model after that was slightly more of an improvement; then the K712 was released which AFAIK is just a non-limited version of the anniversary model with orange accents instead of blue.

 

So now they have the K812 to slot in above the K712.

 

Personally I really dig the design. It has a very purposeful, utilitarian look to it like the AKGs of old. Those metal accents around the cups are a definite throwback, and there's no trace of brightly colored plastic. They remind me somewhat of the K340 hybrids (which are, incidentally, an *awesome* headphone IMHO). So while I'm still somewhat disappointed there's no K1000 successor, this offering is compelling to me nonetheless. Hopefully AKG gets the voicing right. Particularly the bass, which has been the biggest issue with their previous flagships.

 

They look great, and the price looks like they want to take on HD800 but... why 32 Ohms, why single entry 3 pin cable connector.  My amplifier would only provide a damping factor of 16 which is too low IIRC, I guess some 1 Ohm ZOut amplifiers might be OK but those are pretty rare.  Might make for a nice portable headphone or something...  

 

Why must you raise my hopes and then smash them AKG???

 

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I dunno, I love single entry cables...
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post
 

 

Ooh I don't know. If it was limited I might seriously consider getting a pair. It's never been cheaper on Amazon JP that's for sure.


Lachlan, if you do decide to grab a pair let me know. I'll PayPal you the cost plus whatever shipping needed to send them to me. I'd do it myself but the last time I tried looking into a Proxy it was such a pain in the arse I decided to give up an do something more fun like hitting myself in the face with a hammer

:o:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post


I dont mind the single entry so much as the 3pin connector which means it cant be used with balanced amplification.
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Lachlan, if you do decide to grab a pair let me know. I'll PayPal you the cost plus whatever shipping needed to send them to me. I'd do it myself but the last time I tried looking into a Proxy it was such a pain in the arse I decided to give up an do something more fun like hitting myself in the face with a hammer

:o:rolleyes:

You sure? IIRC sending something to NA is like 20 dollars and thats the cheapest postage....... Tenso is apparently not bad ^^ 

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I dunno, I love single entry cables...

 

 

With a single entry 3 pin cable, you couldn't re-cable it balanced though, right? That's a big thing for some people in the high-end market....

 

The 32 ohms thing annoys me though. The original K701 was like 200+ ohms or something IIRC. The K1000 and K340 were really big loads (hur hur) too. I miss that.

 

Like I said, it's a weird mismatch to my mind. Amp designers are making their amps more and more powerful and higher gain these days, while headphone manufacturers are making their products more and more efficient. Welcome to the Future World of Hiss.


Edited by MuppetFace - 10/11/13 at 3:00am
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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post  The original K701 was like 200+ ohms or something IIRC.

 

Eh? I thought it was 62 or 64 ohms? But I get what you mean... I agree. Heck, I even want high-ohm IEMs!

 

They should've just gone with 4-pins. It's too easy to screw up the grounding during manufacturing. I can envision people modding that thing immediately.

 

Even Sennheiser does 4-pole connections for its single cable headphones. If people wanted, they could run the HD595/598 balanced with a simple plug retermination.

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With a single entry 3 pin cable, you couldn't re-cable it balanced though, right? That's a big thing for some people in the high-end market....

The 32 ohms thing annoys me though. The original K701 was like 200+ ohms or something IIRC. The K1000 and K340 were really big loads (hur hur) too. I miss that.

They can be recabled for "balanced" but that will require drilling the shells. A few people have done that with ther K701/702s. I can't remember the last full-sized AKG headphone sold dual-entry. Not including the K1000, since that's sui generis.

I think damping factor is overly obsessed about. It's not a universal panacea. But yeah, there's definitely some mis-coordination going on between the headphone companies and amp companies. I would assume the headphone companies generally are misunderstanding the market for open-backed phones, but they do more research on this than I do, so they probably know how their units are going to sell without having to take account for whether I think it's distasteful...
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Eh? I thought it was 62 or 64 ohms? But I get what you mean... I agree. Heck, I even want high-ohm IEMs!

 

They should've just gone with 4-pins. It's too easy to screw up the grounding during manufacturing. I can envision people modding that thing immediately.

 

Even Sennheiser does 4-pole connections for its single cable headphones. If people wanted, they could run the HD595/598 balanced with a simple plug retermination.

 

Oh yeah, I got it mixed up with the original DT880. A few years ago the DT880 versus K701 versus HD600 debate was a biggun...

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A 32-ohm flagship doesn't make sense. That and the thin, 3.5mm terminated cable make it seem like it's trying to do everything at the same time, including running straight out of a DAP, which one does not do with flagships (or shouldn't, anyways).

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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

A 32-ohm flagship doesn't make sense. That and the thin, 3.5mm terminated cable make it seem like it's trying to do everything at the same time, including running straight out of a DAP, which one does not do with flagships (or shouldn't, anyways).

+1

 

ALthough UltraSones Flagsip looks like a cheap $40 intro pair they also make with the same name, except the Flag Ship just ends with a difrernt noun

 

 

ok that said, fun story for u guys. There has been this "LEARN FRENCH ADD" on my Head fi for the longest time, and yes the women pictured had a nice bust. So I click the add expecting to get to stare at said bust, only to find I stumpled upon an add for Pimsleur language solution... and you know what... I watched like 15mins of that video [which had no boobs in it] and I'm totally going to try it out!  I mean I have a 45min ride to work each day, and a 20 min ride to class 4 days a week. That's a total of like... at least 90 minete's a day in a car... that said... I'm totally going to try this language software out! I mean 18 years of having spanish friends and wathching Japanese Anime have to be worth something? So let's see what I can't do! 

 

Going TO start with Spanish first since I know some native speakers, and if it works I'll let you guys know. Best of all... only suckers pay for that stuff <3 so you know nothing like free knowledge 

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