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From the HiFiMan facebook page:

 

"T-Minus 3 Days... we promise you'll like this!"

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Hey, I have a quick related question.  What was the final impetus that made y'all get customs?  And more importantly, which one?  confused.gif

 

One of my stumbling blocks here is the expectation of customs being all "ahhh" ::cue heavenly choir::  I'm not saying my first custom needs to be my endgame custom, but I do want to be mightily impressed.  A bit unrealistic maybe?  redface.gif  I think that has been factoring into my indecision lately.

 

 

Dammit, I'm starting to really want mine to get here NOW!  biggrin.gif

 

Well I wanted one mainly for comfort and isolation (as well as sound quality). I opted for the SE5 as I didn't see anything else really meeting my expectations like the 1Plus2 does. When coming from that it really sets the bar high. The SE5 manages to compliment what I have which is great :).

 

lol so you bought a pair or demoing?

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From the HiFiMan facebook page:

 

"T-Minus 3 Days... we promise you'll like this!"

 

Ooh, a promise!  Something tells me you already know what this is... smile.gif

 

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Dammit, I'm starting to really want mine to get here NOW!  biggrin.gif

 

lol so you bought a pair or demoing?

 

Demoing, but I'd be kidding myself if I said that I wasn't going to pick it up (most likely) after I do.  biggrin.gif

 


 

Also, this looks interesting!  http://en-de.sennheiser.com/broadcasting-headphones-studio-recording-stage-hd-26-pro  smile.gif 

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Ooh, a promise!  Something tells me you already know what this is... smile.gif

 

 

No idea. I doubt it's the Jade II, as people who have spoken to Fang about it have indicated that he wants to really take his time on it, and that it's still pretty far off from being ready to see the light of day. It could be the rumored new flagship ortho and successor to the HE-6, which would be cool.

 

I'm pretty psyched. Hopefully it's not just, like, an amp module for their DAPs or something.

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An HE-6 successor that has sensitivity similar to the HE-500's would be pretty baller (mainly because I still don't want to buy one of them super amps :/ )

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Ooh, a promise!  Something tells me you already know what this is... smile.gif

 

No idea. I doubt it's the Jade II, as people who have spoken to Fang about it have indicated that he wants to really take his time on it, and that it's still pretty far off from being ready to see the light of day. It could be the rumored new flagship ortho and successor to the HE-6, which would be cool.

 

I'm pretty psyched. Hopefully it's not just, like, an amp module for their DAPs or something.

 

Yeah, that would be rather disappointing... and would constitute a broken promise as well.

 

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An HE-6 successor that has sensitivity similar to the HE-500's would be pretty baller (mainly because I still don't want to buy one of them super amps :/ )

 

+1  #ain'tnobodygottimeforthat

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Oh, I've got time for that. Sensitive headphones are annoying. Besides, people grossly exaggerate the requirements of stuff like the HE-6 anyway just so they can feel speychul with their gear. Most amps these days are way more powerful than most headphones need, so you get very little volume play and a grey, noisy background with headphones. I'd actually prefer less sensitive headphones.

 

I just want the new flagship to sound good, and hopefully less tizzy in the treble department.


Edited by MuppetFace - 8/30/13 at 3:53pm
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Gotta agree there, the HE-6 doesn't need an @OMGWTFBBQ amp to sound great, it sounds bitchin out of my EF-5.
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Disclaimer: I don't say that because I feel special about my gear >_> .  I just personally don't want to buy a new amp right now and, in my own experience, don't think I have an amp that gets the most out of headphones like the HE-6.  Like, I've had people tell me that the BA can drive the HE-6, but, thorough long term use, I find it inadequate for the LCD-3's -- it lacks some dynamic range and squanders some of the LCD-3's strengths for "good overall" (I mean, it is, but still). 

 

I have a Conductor, but it seems to hover in some realm between being more than good enough for an LCD-3, but nowhere near as powerful as Cavalli's offerings (even the Glass is pretty damn strong, right?  I could barely move the knob while using it with my TH900's {sounded great, though}).

 

In all honesty I kind of want to ditch the Conductor and get a small DAC and Liquid Au (since it's fairly compact too) as a new desk setup, but shouldn't be throwing that kind of money around right now :(

 

Also, I kind of want to say **** it to headphones for awhile and buy Kef Blades because they seem cool >_> .  

 


 

Holy **** it sounds like there's a tornado forming outside...  

 


 

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Gotta agree there, the HE-6 doesn't need an @OMGWTFBBQ amp to sound great, it sounds bitchin out of my EF-5.

 

Oh? Do you know what its output strength is in watts?  Their site says "15 Volts at 32 Ohm" and I'm not sure what that means, exactly.

 

I tried the HE-6 off some big TTVJ amp that seemed similarly powerful to the BA and thought it had the same shortcomings BA -> LCD-3 does.


Edited by driver 8 - 8/30/13 at 4:14pm
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Besides, people grossly exaggerate the requirements of stuff like the HE-6 anyway just so they can feel speychul with their gear. Most amps these days are way more powerful than most headphones need, so you get very little volume play and a grey, noisy background with headphones. I'd actually prefer less sensitive headphones.

 

Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Gotta agree there, the HE-6 doesn't need an @OMGWTFBBQ amp to sound great, it sounds bitchin out of my EF-5.

 

Shhh... don't let my WA7 hear you!  It, um, didn't have a very good time on its date with an HE-6.  frown.gif

 

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Holy **** it sounds like there's a tornado forming outside...  

 

Wut?!  eek.gif

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Disclaimer: I don't say that because I feel special about my gear >_> .  I just personally don't want to buy a new amp right now and, in my own experience, don't think I have an amp that gets the most out of headphones like the HE-6.  Like, I've had people tell me that the BA can drive the HE-6, but, thorough long term use, I find it inadequate for the LCD-3's -- it lacks some dynamic range and squanders some of the LCD-3's strengths for "good overall" (I mean, it is, but still). 

 

I have a Conductor, but it seems to hover in some realm between being more than good enough for an LCD-3, but nowhere near as powerful as Cavalli's offerings (even the Glass is pretty damn strong, right?  I could barely move the knob while using it with my TH900's {sounded great, though}).

 

In all honesty I kind of want to ditch the Conductor and get a small DAC and Liquid Au (since it's fairly compact too) as a new desk setup, but shouldn't be throwing that kind of money around right now :(

 

Also, I kind of want to say **** it to headphones for awhile and buy Kef Blades because they seem cool >_> .  

 

 

 

No, I meant people say their super powerful amps are necessary to drive the HE-6 so they can feel elite. I think the LCD-3 sounding crappy on a lot of amps has less to do with power and more to do with poor synergy, but it's more a case by case kind of thing. The LCD-3 in general sounds pretty dull and congested in stock form, at least on a lot of the early models, so they kind of need a thiner, brighter rig like a GS-X to wake up in my opinion. With the ECBA you're mostly hearing the drivers as they are, I think.

 

The HE-6 does need more juice than a lot of other headphones out there. Both it and the K1000 are genuinely hard loads. However I still think people really exaggerate the requirements for it, and there are plenty of dedicated headphone amps that can drive the HE-6 well in my experience. Of course, the subjective factor comes into play, and folks will say "oh but it just gets so much better, and I like all the *headroom* I get on my nuclear reactor." Okay. Whatever. Also sources can really make a big difference in how much attenuation you need. I'd say most of the headphone amps I've used over the years maybe get 25% useable room on the volume pot. Maybe. With the HE-6, it's more like 40 to 60% at most. Same with stats. 

 

The KEF Blades are neat. You should totally ditch headphones and get 'em. Headphones are lame. LOL.


Edited by MuppetFace - 8/30/13 at 4:25pm
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Wut?!  eek.gif

 

I was afraid of my AC being ripped out of the wall and a pole in front of my bedroom window was bending quite a bit.  Thankfully that stopped, but now it's flash flooding and my walls are being bombarded with large hail.

 

-Edit-

 

Don't a lot of the GS-X people here hate the LCD-3's, though?  And I don't think the Conductor's a particularly thin or bright sounding amp after it's warmed up a bit. 

 

I should also mention that the LCD-3's weaknesses off the ECBA are very similar to why I don't like the Paradox straight off my iPod, even though they have different signatures (when the LCD-3 is stock) and such all around, so I think power does play some role with them.  I don't think they need a nuclear reactor, though, and even thought the Lyr's output was kind of silly.

 

IDK, I should jsut bring my Conductor to a meet sometime and see if it works with an HE-6 to be sure. 


Edited by driver 8 - 8/30/13 at 4:39pm
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Ooh, a promise!  Something tells me you already know what this is... smile.gif

 

 

Demoing, but I'd be kidding myself if I said that I wasn't going to pick it up (most likely) after I do.  biggrin.gif

 


 

Also, this looks interesting!  http://en-de.sennheiser.com/broadcasting-headphones-studio-recording-stage-hd-26-pro  smile.gif

 

Ahh I got ya. I'd be in the same camp. With a short listening session I honestly don't think I'd have been that pleased with the updated 1Plus2. I really needed time to assimilate to their sound (as well as burn my pair in).

 

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Oh, I've got time for that. Sensitive headphones are annoying. Besides, people grossly exaggerate the requirements of stuff like the HE-6 anyway just so they can feel speychul with their gear. Most amps these days are way more powerful than most headphones need, so you get very little volume play and a grey, noisy background with headphones. I'd actually prefer less sensitive headphones.

 

I just want the new flagship to sound good, and hopefully less tizzy in the treble department.

 

lol for some reason I was always under the impression you need a nuclear power plant to "properly" power the HE-6 ;).


Edited by lee730 - 8/30/13 at 5:22pm
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Don't a lot of the GS-X people here hate the LCD-3's, though?  And I don't think the Conductor's a particularly thin or bright sounding amp after it's warmed up a bit. 

 

I should also mention that the LCD-3's weaknesses off the ECBA are very similar to why I don't like the Paradox straight off my iPod, even though they have different signatures (when the LCD-3 is stock) and such all around, so I think power does play some role with them.  I don't think they need a nuclear reactor, though, and even thought the Lyr's output was kind of silly.

 

IDK, I should jsut bring my Conductor to a meet sometime and see if it works with an HE-6 to be sure. 

 

It's all a matter of preference. If you dislike the LCD-3's fundamental character, I don't think there's an amp out there that's going to make it shine for you. Amps can only do so much. If you're the sort of person who loves the HD800 paired with the GS-X for instance, then you're probably going to dislike the LCD-3 even when it's paired with the GS-X. I just picked that amp as the first thing that came to mind because it has a rather analytical, thin type of presentation which sort of counter balances the LCD-3's thicker signature. I seem to recall some folks really digging the GS-Xmk2 with the LCD-3 at a recent meet. Also LCD-3s by their nature are hard to talk about with any certainty since they vary so much from one to the next.

 

In any case though the LCD-3 isn't a particularly hungry headphone. That doesn't mean it can't benefit from more power, but again, it's only part of the equation. Is the problem with the ECBA + LCD-3 pairing really one of power? I'm more inclined to think it an issue with the K1000 or HE-6. Case in point, I've driven the LCD-3 fairly well off of amps that are even less powerful than the ECBA.

 

Ultimately though, an amp that can grip the transducer and exercise control over it while maintaining finesse and musical nuances is what I'm looking for. Power is great. It's fine. It can't *hurt* when it comes to stuff like the LCD-3 even if it's not an absolute necessity to have gobs of it, though it gets to be a bit of a pain when there's such a prevalence of uber-amps on the market and you want something specifically for highly sensitive headphones. 


Edited by MuppetFace - 8/30/13 at 5:56pm
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The previous page of the thread makes my browser crash.

 

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Also, this looks interesting!  http://en-de.sennheiser.com/broadcasting-headphones-studio-recording-stage-hd-26-pro  smile.gif

 

Yeah I've seen that before. Very curious...

 

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The KEF Blades are neat. You should totally ditch headphones and get 'em. Headphones are lame. LOL.

 

Next you'll be encouraging us all to install pipe organs in our houses.

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