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So I took a search in YouTube, found one and OMG. The UHA-4's crossfeed does help to centre the vocals a bit but it's quite subtle. Most apparent at the point of switching it on then off. Good song, but it's not something I'm in to right now. Probably in another time perhaps? Thanks lee.
Okay then it really depends on the song then. It's just the modern songs seem to be made for headphones and older songs seems more for speakers. Is this a correct assumption?


Well it really depends. Just the tracks back then were mastered completely differently. Was their own flavor back then. Maybe I can drop you the actual file to demo. Its much more noticeable on a true file than one uploaded to youtube ;).

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The UHA-4's crossfeed is pretty subtle.  I usually only notice it when I forget to turn it on because I hear a hard pan or something like that.  I found a pretty aggressive crossfeed setting in Rockbox that I like because it move the soundstage forward quite a bit but it beats the battery to death.

Try listening for the cymbals.  In pretty much all modern rock/metal (and most pop/jpop I remember) they spread them out to the extreme right and left so that they're pretty much all the way on either side of my head, almost all the way off to the side..  A hard pan on something with good forward projection or a wide soundstage can often sound even weirder and more fatiguing.   It's like I'm facing a brick wall, edge on, and someone to the front and side of me is yelling into one ear.

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I'm the X, facing up towards the wall and I can very clearly hear the 0 in front and to the left but I don't hear anything that I should normally hear in my right ear at the same time to balance it out..  Try it in a doorway or something., the less reflective the surroundings the better.  You could try and find a wall and door frame separating two rooms that have different noisy things going on in each one of them.  Something like a crowd of people in one and machinery/mechanical sounds in the other.  One loud and one quiet will work too.  A doorway between an noisy indoor crowd and outdoors where no one's on the street/in the parking lot because they're all inside partying is a good test too.

If those don't bother you then you probably don't need crossfeed.

I see. Well football (soccer for you guys) night is coming up and it's a big match too (Arsenal vs Chelsea if anyone's bothering). That noisy/quiet room test is going to be easy to do during the match LOL. Provided both of them put up a great show so there's more cheers and yelling of course. I will also put some more focus on cymbals too then, just for the sake of trying out.

For the longest time though I'm having a hard time 'seeing' front/back imaging when I'm listening to songs. I can kind of feel it from some songs that seems to 'orbit' the sound around my head. But not as clear as when it's left/right. And I enjoy the ridiculous hard panning that actually discomforts me with spine-tingling sensation and weirdness LOL. It's just seems so ... fun. Of course I can see where crossfeed is wanted too on some of the other music I have in my library. It just sounds more natural and fitting. My taste is diverse enough that crossfeed will be useful, maybe probably.
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Well it really depends. Just the tracks back then were mastered completely differently. Was their own flavor back then. Maybe I can drop you the actual file to demo. Its much more noticeable on a true file than one uploaded to youtube wink.gif.

If you're okay with, then I'm okay with it. wink.gif
Edited by jgray91 - 9/28/12 at 3:21pm
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I'm not separating logic and math from physics, but rather saying that the disciplines don't always agree on how to approach certain concepts. There's actually quite a bit of disagreement among 'strict' mathematicians and physicists in that sense, even though physics uses mathematics.

 

That makes more sense when you put it  that way.

 

I'll drop it though if you don't want to talk about it.

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And I enjoy the ridiculous hard panning that actually discomforts me with spine-tingling sensation and weirdness LOL. It's just seems so ... fun.

 

Headaches!  Occasionally terrible headaches!

 

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For the longest time though I'm having a hard time 'seeing' front/back imaging when I'm listening to songs. I can kind of feel it from some songs that seems to 'orbit' the sound around my head. But not as clear as when it's left/right..

 

Most headphones don't do it too well.  That's an understatement.  Most are piss poor at it.  It's also the Achilles' Heel of IEMs that keeps me from ditching full sizes completely no matter how much better I think IEMs are compared to all but the very best full sizes everywhere else.

 

Give Nami-chan some monster angled pads like the ones in my album and turn on the crossfeed if you want to hear stuff in front of you.  Then put Nami-chan on backwards and hear everything coming from behind you.  Other than that, the HD800, HE-6, LCD-2/3, TH900, DX1000, HD650, and SA5000 are the better ones I remember off the top of my head.  It's been too long for that to be any sort of order though. 

 

Also, at least for me, full sizes usually respond better to low levels of crossfeed with the stage gaining more depth than even a good IEM on the same setting.  Basic crossfeed circuits are a fairly crude simulation of what happens to real waves, from real speakers, in real air, around your head so different headphones may require different tradeoffs.

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I think I missed it but happy belated birthday DF ^^ 

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Headaches!  Occasionally terrible headaches!
Nothing like some visceral, painful funness in life. evil_smiley.gif
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Most headphones don't do it too well.  That's an understatement.  Most are piss poor at it.  It's also the Achilles' Heel of IEMs that keeps me from ditching full sizes completely no matter how much better I think IEMs are compared to all but the very best full sizes everywhere else.

Give Nami-chan some monster angled pads like the ones in my album and turn on the crossfeed if you want to hear stuff in front of you.  Then put Nami-chan on backwards and hear everything coming from behind you.  Other than that, the HD800, HE-6, LCD-2/3, TH900, DX1000, HD650, and SA5000 are the better ones I remember off the top of my head.  It's been too long for that to be any sort of order though. 

Also, at least for me, full sizes usually respond better to low levels of crossfeed with the stage gaining more depth than even a good IEM on the same setting.  Basic crossfeed circuits are a fairly crude simulation of what happens to real waves, from real speakers, in real air, around your head so different headphones may require different tradeoffs.

I will probably make a new pad, and probably angled too, once I'm done trying BMF's DBV #3. He sent me a package with the materials LOL. Haven't arrived yet though. What kind of foam did you use? And IIRC you linked to a site selling, and shipping, foam blocks once yes?
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I will probably make a new pad, and probably angled too, once I'm done trying BMF's DBV #3. He sent me a package with the materials LOL. Haven't arrived yet though. What kind of foam did you use? And IIRC you linked to a site selling, and shipping, foam blocks once yes?

 

No clue if they'll ship to you or not.  I ordered the 'Very Soft" memory foam and overstuffed it some to try and make up for it being too soft but then it ended up a little too firm.  I got a 1/2" thick sheet and cut it up into pad shaped donuts.

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Aww so that would explain all the gifts swinging your way at this time. Happy b-day you old fart ;)
 

 

Happy (fairly belated) birthday DF!

 

I've run out of mobile data for this month, and haven't been able to check in much here. Surprisingly being without mobile data is painful, but not as horrifying as I imagined. It's almost sort of relaxing.

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Thanks for the happy birthday wishes guys. I have Sunday off and my folks are going to take me out for lunch to celebrate. I actually didn't say anything about my birthday online. It was Bowei whose on my friends list on Facebook who noticed it and spread the word. By the way, looks like Centrance is bringing out a new transportable DAC/amp soon that's not to far off from the O2 in form factor but with a lot more sound customization and grunt. You'll also be able to use it with an iDevice or your computer and customers will even be able to custom order a 3 or 4 pin XLR connectors.

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So I've decided to get myself an automobile. If I end up moving to the Northwest, I'd be really tempted to get a convertible or roadster of some sort.

 

Jaguar XKR:

 

 

 

 

 

The front end of the Jag reminds me of an executioner's hood. Which is f'kin awesome.

 

Then there's the "be really irresponsible" option of getting an Aston...

 

Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster:

 

 

 

 

Aston Martin Virage Volante:

 

 

 

And the new V12 Vantage Roadster:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd definitely get these in something other than white. Some kind of darker grey or blue-grey color.

 

Then there are some really awesome new releases on the horizon, like the updated F-Type Jag:

 

 

 

 

 

And finally, though not a convertible, the return of one of my all time favorites...

The Aston Martin Vanquish:

 

 

 

 

 

Please ignore the poop color that Aston has chosen for this render. In my humble opinion, the only proper color for a Vanquish is green:

 

 

 

As seen on the DB4 Zagato.

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And while I'm posting pictures of cars, I may as well post some of the new McLauren, the P1:

 

 

 

 

 

 

The word "monstrosity" comes to mind. Also the phrase "sports trainer shoe."

 

I do like the Zonda-esque profile. The basic lines of the body are good. The drooping v-neck back window is good too. But then it just.... no. Too much.


Edited by MuppetFace - 9/29/12 at 4:27am
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Did Alfa Romeo fail at their comeback to the states? I remember your mentioning that you liked the 8C?

 

I'm partial to Aston as well --- you could go for the really, really, really irresponsible option of the One-77... and then justify the purchase with a Cygnet iQ. biggrin.gif

 

Then again, I'm pretty sure all 77 are spoken for...

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BTW, the F-Type looks like a California aka ugliest Ferrari EVAR...

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I'm partial to Aston as well --- you could go for the really, really, really irresponsible option of the One-77... and then justify the purchase with a Cygnet iQ. biggrin.gif

 

Then again, I'm pretty sure all 77 are spoken for...

 

Dunno if they're all spoken for or not, but supposedly the gearbox absolutely blows in the One-77. Also disagree on the California being the ugliest Ferrari ever. Most boring? Maybe. But ugliest? Not by a longshot, IMO.

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Originally Posted by MuppetFace View Post  Dunno if they're all spoken for or not, but supposedly the gearbox absolutely blows in the One-77. Also disagree on the California being the ugliest Ferrari ever. Most boring? Maybe. But ugliest? Not by a longshot, IMO.

 

Well, sequential manuals are inherently quirky for road use... the One-77 is a very special machine, however. It's not all that practical, though.

 

As for the California, I guess it's a personal thing. It's definitely the worst looking modern Ferrari I've seen in person. The F12 Berlinetta looks very nice, though.

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