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 Thanks.....it made work a hassle this week too....I don't know how many times I had to say to somebody, "huh?" or, "what?"  Annoying.mad.gif

 

Thanks! That second one you had, with your balance being all messed up, sounds scary. I hope that doesn't happen again, I know it would freak me right out. 

 

Then again the propensity for the high noon Mexican spirts could have played a role.wink.gif

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A_rec,

You're actually agreeing with me. The things you describe, like girls wearing pink, are gender roles defined by social paradigms. I don't view them as a part of gender per se. A boy wanting to wear pink and doing ballet doesn't make him less of a boy.

 

I really think we're having a fundamental issue in terminology here. How are you defining gender? Especially when you say gender roles aren't part of gender?

 

This is what I am assuming you mean:

 

gender roles = social factors

gender = biological factors

 

However a_rec, myself, and Butler are meaning this: 

 

gender = social factors and gender identity

sex = biological factors

 

The identity part is crucial.

 

 

 

Ye Old Wikipedia, the most scholarly of sources (Click to show)

 

 

Let's consult the most scholarly of sources, ye old Wikipedia:

 

"The World Health Organization defines gender as the result of socially constructed ideas about the behavior, actions, and roles a particular sex performs.[4] The beliefs, values and attitude taken up and exhibited by them is as per the agreeable norms of the society and the personal opinions of the person is not taken into the primary consideration of assignment of gender and imposition of gender roles as per the assigned gender.[4] Intersections and crossing of the prescribed boundaries have no place in the arena of the social construct of the term "gender".

The assignment of gender involves taking into account the physiological and biological attributes assigned by nature followed by the imposition of the socially constructed conduct. The social label of being classified into one or the other sex is obligatory to the medical stamp on the birth certificate. The cultural traits typically coupled to a particular sex finalize the assignment of gender and the biological differences that play a role in classifying either sex is interchangeable with the definition of gender within the social context.

In this context, the socially constructed rules are at a cross road with the assignment of a particular gender to a person. Gender ambiguity deals with having the freedom to choose, manipulate and create a personal niche within any defined socially constructed code of conduct while gender fluidity is outlawing all the rules of cultural gender assignment. It does not accept the prevalence of the two rigidly defined genders "man" and "woman" and believes in freedom to choose any kind of gender with no rules, no defined boundaries and no fulfilling of expectations associated with any particular gender.

Both these definitions are facing opposite directionalities with their own defined set of rules and criteria on which the said systems are based."

 

"Early gender identity research hypothesized a single bipolar dimension of masculinity-femininity—that is masculinity and femininity were opposites on one continuum. As societal stereotypes changed, however, assumptions of the unidimensional model were challenged. This led to the development of a two-dimensional gender identity model, in which masculinity and femininity were conceptualized as two separate, orthogonal dimensions, coexisting in varying degrees within an individual. This conceptualization on femininity and masculinity remains the accepted standard today.[37]

Two instruments incorporating the multidimensional of masculinity and femininity have dominated gender identity research: The Bem Sex Role Inventory (BSRI) and the Personal Attributes Questionnaire (PAQ). Both instruments categorize individuals as either being sex typed (males report themselves as identifying primarily with masculine traits, females report themselves as identifying primarily with feminine traits), cross sex-typed (males report themselves as identifying primarily with feminine traits, females report themselves as identifying primarily with masculine traits), androgynous (either males or females who report themselves as high on both masculine and feminine traits) or undifferentiated (either males or females who report themselves as low on both masculine and feminine traits).[37] Twenge (1997) noted that, although men are generally more masculine than women and women generally more feminine than men, the association between biological sex and masculinity/femininity is waning.[38]"

 

 

 

So yeah, it seems a bit misguided to parse "gender roles" out of gender as its own distinct thing, when in fact it's part of gender. Just as biological considerations are part of gender too. However there's also gender identity which sits at a crossroads here. There are some no doubt who still feel a distinction between biological sex and gender is misguided, but this is hardly something that is widely accepted. Causal links between biological factors like hormones and genes and certain behaviors have been demonstrated, but even the most diehard determinist would admit there's a long way to go before one can say there's a direct causal link between hormones and gender.

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Wow... so, the Denon C300s got here (and the HiFiman too...)... I'm a super noob with IEMs and frankly I didn't know "tips" changed the sound so much!!! After a bunch of testing found 2 pairs that provide good dynamics and BASS!!! Holy... these little guys do pack a punch!

 

Oh, and it came with a pair of "complys"... VERY comfortable!!! Are the comply's durable?

 

 

Thanks.

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Pressed for time, but in general, this is the way I understand the divisions of terminology:

 

Sex can be divided into two different sections:

  • Genotypic Sex, i.e. chromosomally XX, XY, X(O), XXY, XYY, etc.
  • Phenotypic Sex, i.e. outward sexual appearance --- "male" genitalia, "female" genitalia, hermaphroditic genitalia, no genitalia, artificially-induced transexual phenotypes
  • Reproductive Sex, i.e. functional "male" gonads, functional "female" gonads

 

Gender can divided into:

  • Gender Identity, i.e. identify as a "Man" or a "Woman"
  • Sexual Behavior, i.e. heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality
  • Societal Role, i.e. "femininity", "masculinity", stay-at-home dad, surrogacy, etc.

Edited by tomscy2000 - 5/24/13 at 8:06pm
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Ok, I think I have the explanation together. I'll post it when I get home.
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I would certainly not have left a month without taking her...especially not with a 6 months mini alien in her belly.
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And you probably miss your wife as well... redface.gif
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I do not really care about gender, I am an asexual little monkey.
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Ok, I think I have the explanation together. I'll post it when I get home.
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Oh, and it came with a pair of "complys"... VERY comfortable!!! Are the comply's durable?

Not really. They tend to need replacing every month or two, depending on useage time and how waxy/sweaty your ears get.

post #12834 of 21761
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Not really. They tend to need replacing every month or two, depending on useage time and how waxy/sweaty your ears get.


I find you get more mileage out of them if you clean them in Hydrogen per every once in a while.

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I would certainly not have left a month without taking her...especially not with a 6 months mini alien in her belly.
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

And you probably miss your wife as well... redface.gif

Ha, I should have thought of that! BTW, congratulations!

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Not really. They tend to need replacing every month or two, depending on useage time and how waxy/sweaty your ears get.


I find you get more mileage out of them if you clean them in Hydrogen per every once in a while.

That won't hurt them in any way? I've got a few pairs of Comply from the UE600 and UE700 but I've never used them. Dunno why, but there's just something about them that I'm not wild about.
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Ha, I should have thought of that! BTW, congratulations!
That won't hurt them in any way? I've got a few pairs of Comply from the UE600 and UE700 but I've never used them. Dunno why, but there's just something about them that I'm not wild about.


It does not seem to harm them. In fact they actually feel softer after the hydrogen pe. Do not leave them soaking in there for any amount of time, rather dip and squeeze tehm out several times then do the same with water to rinse them out. They do seem to take forever and a day to dry though.

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I find you get more mileage out of them if you clean them in Hydrogen per every once in a while.

Where are you getting Hydrogen from? Should I cool it down to a liquid first? biggrin.gif

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Where are you getting Hydrogen from? Should I cool it down to a liquid first?

 

Only if you want to snap off body parts. The per refers to peroxide, smart arse.

 

So I guess carbon tet should be left off the menu as well.wink.gif

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It kind of makes sense/is justifiable because of how the industry has changed. Generations ago, you had to have the actual game cartridge to play the game - when you sold your N64 cartridge, you transferred your ability to play the game onto the new owner. With the new consoles and the rise of hard drive space in video game consoles, it's become feasible to write whole games to your HD. I think the fear is that piracy will be a large issue with the new consoles - this results in loss of sales.

 

I actually don't mind paying full price for an excellent game that I enjoy, or even to pay for a game that's okayish and that I might not finish to support a game publisher I really like. I've made it a point to buy all Atlus and Tri-Ace games brand new, just to add another drop in their bucket to show that this particular consumer supports their work.  

 

So they create a product and a market for it, lose control of that market by using technology to create greater profit, the possible consequences of which they were not prepared to control, decide that they still want to make money, and more money, but not trust their consumers and not really figure out a way to add value to the technology enough to discourage misuse, inconvenience said consumers and market by locking them into a perpetual parole cycle and removing ownership rights over products, and this is justifiable how exactly?

 

They need to focus on adding value for happily paying consumers like yourself that will pay for a good product and said added value, that actually exist and can be accounted for, rather than spend time, money and effort, at the expense of those legitimate consumers, to stop a maybe, and that's a big maybe, lost sale.

 

 

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I haven't really been following the Xbox One thing, but I caught a brief summary the other day and was left a bit bewildered over the whole "checking in once a day" thing. Like, apparently you have to connect to their servers at least once every 24 hours to keep your games valid? Seems like a form of slowly wrought existential mental torture akin to pushing a boulder up an incline in Hades or keeping the sand out in A Woman In the Dunes.

 

It's really a slap in the face to consumers. I'd love to hear the rationale that doesn't start with "because some of you can't be trusted..."

I imagine a boardroom where one guy says "I don't know if this is such a good idea." and another responds "they'll take what we give them, and like it."

I imagine people having to "read" and accept an EULA to "buy" a game.

...having to prove ownership to someone that can strip you of it at the drop of a zero, are they really "your" games?

 

I have The Woman in The Dunes on my bookshelf, meant to be read long ago. Worth taking off the shelf?

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Y'all are not gonna believe what just happened. I'm chilling out with my music on shuffle and Sara K.'s What You Don't Know comes on. It's the live version from her Don't I Know You From Somewhere album. At the end of that track, she talks about the next song she's gonna play (Aura of the Blade). When it switched over to the next "random" song, it just happened to be the Studio version of Aura of the Blade from her Made in the Shade album. Magickal!
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