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I adore Five Guys, personally. I've always liked In-N-Out but after trying Five Guys last year, my preferences have definitely swayed...
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I adore Five Guys, personally. I've always liked In-N-Out but after trying Five Guys last year, my preferences have definitely swayed...

Just don't look at the calorie counts....eek.gif

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Happy Birthday Arly!

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Five Guys fires are awesome, but the burgers are unbalanced in a way that In and Out aren't. I guess it's that they go for overkill, which is what some of us want in a burger, though;)
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Don't you have Middle Eastern shawarma or doner kebab in the US?

 

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Don't you have Middle Eastern shawarma or doner kebab in the US?

I always hate how those words are spelled in the English language. I don't know whether that is because Dutch is more accurate, or simply because of me being use to Dutch spelling.
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Don't you have Middle Eastern shawarma or doner kebab in the US?


Sure, but depends on where you are in the US. I don't remember seeing much in Rhode Island, but you're probably good in the parts of the Midwest.
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I lived in the Detroit area for years, not far from the Dearborn area, which has the largest Middle Eastern population outside the Middle East.

Up until I left last year, doner was effectively nonexistent. Shawarma was more common but kebabs and pita wraps were the most common.

I can't actually recall seeing doner anywhere there. It never really caught my attention until I moved to North Carolina, anyway.
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I lived in the Detroit area for years, not far from the Dearborn area, which has the largest Middle Eastern population outside the Middle East.
Up until I left last year, doner was effectively nonexistent. Shawarma was more common but kebabs and pita wraps were the most common.
I can't actually recall seeing doner anywhere there. It never really caught my attention until I moved to North Carolina, anyway.

In my case there are at least 10 places selling doner, and at least another 15 selling showarma / kabob.
It's pretty popular in most of Europe, or at least the parts of Europe I've gone to in recent years.
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Happy Birthday Arly!


Thanks man

@MuppetFace

 

Today I received my first of 4 CD's, Letzte Tage-letzte Nächte by Popol Vul was the CD I received. The first couple of songs weren't really my style but when the third track, Oh wie weit ist der Weg hinauf, kicked in my interest also immediately kicked in. I'm on the second last track now and thus far I'm really enjoying this album. Thanks, this is exactly what the doctor ordered, a nice change of pace. I can hardly wait until the other 3 CD's arrive.

 


Edited by DigitalFreak - 9/27/12 at 9:21pm
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Aww so that would explain all the gifts swinging your way at this time. Happy b-day you old fart ;)
 

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Concerning fries, I'd love to try Poutine.

 

 

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CdC: My only advice is to pick the job based on the merits of a job being offered NOW, not based on future promises. The whole world can turn upside down in the future, and any hints or promises of great things after a year or 5 years is just a f@rt on the wind. I once had a manager offer me two options: 1) Be promoted to Level 2 now, with the promise to be promoted to level 6 next year, or 2) Be promoted to Level 4 now with no promise. The pay increase was about the same either way. My manager was shocked that I took the level 4 option and told me so. Less than a year later, the project had been canceled and I was looking for a job. I was looking for a job as a level 4 instead of a level 2. That promise of a level 6 promotion would have been worthless.

Yeah, I actually think I'll go with the developing job to be honest. I have more to win, personally speaking, from that job - granted we reach a consensus on my worth (in pay). We're ot talking huge numbers anyway since I'd be on a junior level, and even though IT people do get paid a lot in Sweden as well, we're still a socialist country with a lot of taxes so a $1000 increase in pay on paper, actually would mean close to $600 in reality, since the gov takes the rest. Also, worth noting, is that programmers/IT people over here, get better pay than both doctors and lawyers over here for the first years. After that it's pretty balanced for a good while until the doctors and lawyers get specialized, and then they get about $5000 (this is of course individual, but yeah, that's about it..) more a year. IT management and people with more responsibilities (i.e. budget etc.) do get paid though - a lot. We're talking close to CEO pay for a smaller company here. In a socialist country where specialist doctors make about $50000 (edit: 50-60000) a year, IT management makes $80000-$100000 and more, and that's pretty much as much as you can make unless you're a CEO or a successful businessman (actually, becoming a businessman or your own consultant make for rich people over here).

 

Now, where was I? Ah yes, what do I gain from taking the dev job? Well, I get to learn and use a whole lot more languages than I know now. I'd get experience and training in these languages:

 

 

C#
ASP.NET MVC
SQL
JavaScript
Ajax
HTML5
CSS
Visual DataFlex
VBScript
Classic ASP

 

That would make me a better .NET developer I think, and I see the world opening up for me. Should I choose the institute instead, I'd only get experience in administration of databases and SQL, pretty much, which I already know how to do. So, knowledge wise, I think I'd benefit more from the developing job, to be honest. Also, I think that deep down, software and system development is what I really want to do.

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Thanks man

 

@MuppetFace

 

Today I received my first of 4 CD's, Letzte Tage-letzte Nächte by Popol Vul was the CD I received. The first couple of songs weren't really my style but when the third track, Oh wie weit ist der Weg hinauf, kicked in my interest also immediately kicked in. I'm on the second last track now and thus far I'm really enjoying this album. Thanks, this is exactly what the doctor ordered, a nice change of pace. I can hardly wait until the other 3 CD's arrive.

 

 

Congratulations! I hope I wasn't late congratulating you my friend.

 


 

Speaking of socialist countries and economic models, I've seen a lot of misinformation and assumptions from americans (in particular) about the Swedish model/Nordic model.

 

Out of personal interest: What are your opinions on it?


Edited by Coq de Combat - 9/28/12 at 2:34am
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Wow that's really different from here. The Doctors and lawyers pay easily trump and IT techs pay here. Even a successful one. I remember the main doctor at the hospital I use to work at made about $275 an hour....
 


Edited by lee730 - 9/28/12 at 12:32am
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The thing is that we don't have big differences in pay regardless of your job.

 

A cleaning lady with experience could make about $25-30'000 a year. With specialist doctors making $50'000 (Edit: 50-60'000) a year, I guess you have a rather good view on the pay scale. Garbage collectors and warehouse workers usually makes about the same pay as IT people with university studies behind them. Sheet metal workers make about the same as cleaning ladies. The randomness in pay is most probably based on the unions and their respective ways of negotiating minimum wages, overtime percentages and "uncomfortable working hours" (meaning that after a certain time, you usually get 100%-200% more an hour).

 

This could easily make for people not wanting to study at universities, but from my understanding of the later statistics, people are still wanting to go study. I can see a lot of people studying what's interesting instead of studying what makes for a huge pay afterwards (even though, admittedly, a lot of students are concerned with pay and career).


Edited by Coq de Combat - 9/28/12 at 2:33am
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The thing is that we don't have big differences in pay regardless of your job.

 

A cleaning lady with experience could make about $25-30'000 a year. With specialist doctors making $50'000 a year, I guess you have a rather good view on the pay scale. Garbage collectors and warehouse workers usually makes about the same pay as IT people with university studies behind them. Sheet metal workers make about the same as cleaning ladies. The randomness in pay is most probably based on the unions and their respective ways of negotiating minimum wages, overtime percentages and "uncomfortable working hours" (meaning that after a certain time, you usually get 100%-200% more an hour).

 

This could easily make for people not wanting to study at universities, but from my understanding of the later statistics, people are still wanting to go study. I can see a lot of people studying what's interesting instead of studying what makes for a huge pay afterwards (even though, admittedly, a lot of students are concerned with pay and career).


It actually seems like a more fair/balanced system.. A lot of jobs these days don't necessarily pay based on how hard the job is. To be quite frank a lot of the time it goes the opposite way and the easier the job the more you get paid. I'll probably catch some flack for this but I call it as I see it.


Edited by lee730 - 9/28/12 at 12:52am
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