iPhone 5 (and new Touch) has totally new dock connector - 'Lightning' - adapters available but... - Page 16

Unless he's heard them all, those are very grandiose generalizations. They don't all even use the same Cirrus or Wolfson chips. A touch 3g LOD out is very smooth open and detialed, hard to beat.

If you're into reading tea leaves, consider the following.

(1) Audience, which provided noise-reduction components for prior iPhones, announced a while ago that it is not supplying anything for the iPhone 5.

(2) Cirrus Logic's Q3 earnings forecast was way, way above analysts' expectations.

(3) The chip that iFixit says is the Cirrus Logic audio chip doesn't look much like any standard Cirrus audio codec.

Obviously this is pure speculation on my part, but in my view (1)+(2)+(3)= a custom Cirrus chip including both audio and noise reduction. Which means we may not know for a while which stock Cirrus codec it incorporates, although my bet is that it's based on the 42L73, because that's designed to be a one-chip solution for all of a smartphone's audio needs.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-5-Teardown/10525/3

 

ifixit...

 

Did someone ask for a close-up of the Apple 338S1077 Cirrus audio codec?

What I look forward to is "if" there will be an easy way to get a useable digital signal out of the 5. 

 

This^ is exactly what I am waiting to find out as well.  I will be getting this phone and since it is provided to me free of charge (haha, yeah right now I'm tethered to work...) so I want to find a way to make it work with my e17.  I have an iPod video 5.5g, which I am perfectly happy using line-out on.  However, since that will not be an option with this device, I am really hopeful that I can find a way to get a digital signal out of this thing to feed to my e17.  I am doubtful that it is going to happen, but hey I can have dreams right?  

 

If you're going to buy another device for music then why not just get a USB DAC for using with your S3? A lot more utility in that approach.

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Edited by shotgunshane - 9/21/12 at 7:13pm

DHC is modding lightning cables for $55 to $75 depending on if you supply the original Apple cable or not:

http://www.doublehelixcables.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=102

 

In the media:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/21/authentication_chips_discovered_in_teardown_of_apples_new_lightning_connector

 

Peter's thread on the cable forums:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628369/all-about-the-new-apple-lightning-cables-plugs-update-authentication-chips-in-the-cable

Edited by shotgunshane - 9/21/12 at 7:26pm

Because it was broken and I have one missing parts, put it together and it cost me $15, that's pretty hard to beat... the guy said it didn't work although it did the diagnostics fine but a part had come off the board so I used my other one which I got for free a while ago.

So after reading the link that ShotgunShane posted and finding out the cable has authentication chips in it it's obvious to me the device won't shake hands with anything unless Apple specifically clears it. That's so disappointing, I was hoping with Jobs gone there would be a little more loosening of the hardware to third party accessory manufacturers. I'm hoping I'm wrong in my assumption and over the next few days good news will begin to flow in as far as mobile DAC compatibility is concerned.

 

The iPod Mini will definitely have the new lightning connector, and will be released in time for the holidays.

 

 

 

Nice, Peter doesn't mess around!

 

The 4th-gen Touch does have a Cirrus Logic chip, despite what Wikipedia says. I never tried the line-out when I had mine, but the headphone-out sounded good to me.

Instead of buying a new iPod Touch, I bought an iPhone 4s 64gb in white.  All the goodies of the new iPod touch except; Smaller screen (and footprint, all good by me smaller rig) 30 pin dock connector (oh YEAH) GPS chip (Now my biking computer apps will actually work, the new iPod Touch doesn't have a GPS chip) A better camera (I don't think I need to explain this one) The ability to activate (it is Verizon, who I happen to be with). All this for $450 used (new 64gb iPod touch is $400, and if bought at the apple store considering tax, I would've paid about the same), great  shape (like new) though squaretrade warranty is gonna be pricy....

Edited by BattleBrat - 9/22/12 at 9:43pm

It's a real head-scratcher to me why the iTouch can't get the good camera. It wouldn't cost Apple much more considering economy of scale and the iTouch would sell better. I guess Apple wants to reward those that are willing to pay $100 a month in a more important and competitive market, but it almost seems like a penalty to iTouch users.

 

Anyways I did the same thing, except I went for black

 

I won mine for $485 but that was over a month ago, it was perfect, and most importantly factory unlocked.