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post #151 of 197

The SR-009 are a "hobby break" .....when you have them there is a high probability of forgetting the rest of headphones.smily_headphones1.gif

 

They are simply the best audio gear in all my years of this hobby.
 


Edited by Sahara - 2/12/13 at 10:39pm
post #152 of 197

That's kind of how it was when I heard a proper speaker rig as well. Sure the 009 beat them in things like detail and speed, but I'd forgotten how much proper soundstage really makes a difference. It's stupid how much more real it sounds from a good speaker rig. 

 

As for digital vs analog...The most telling thing for me was this. I was loaned a Resolution Audio Cantata DAC for a few weeks in December. 6.5k digital front end and admittedly the best I've heard. During that two weeks you know what got the most play time? My Scout TT. 6.5k digital front end vs my analog rig that cost half that. The Scout beat it in almost every way when it comes to engaging sound. It was pretty eye opening to me...and since then I've invested significantly more in my analog rig...I actually don't have any kind of digital source in my home right now, and I won't be spending big bucks on one anytime soon.

 

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Originally Posted by SteveM324 View Post

Nice speakers and wise choice to upgrade the vinyl rig.  A good analog setup trumps digital at any price IME.  I much prefer my speaker rig to the 009.  Not even close.

post #153 of 197
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Originally Posted by Sahara View Post

The SR-009 are a "hobby break" .....when you have them there is a high probability of forgetting the rest of headphones.smily_headphones1.gif

 

They are simply the best audio gear in all my years of this hobby.
 


Agreed but also disagreed too. Here I am with BHSE + 009 rigs and some of my headfi-er friend told me that I'm through with the journey. I kinda agree. But lately been spending some money again on guess what? Portable setup evil_smiley.gif.......Nothing really big though, few hundred here and there, nevertheless is also audio spending. In short, it wont stop. Been thinking of upgrading source but with the delicate nature of 009 and the price of the next level source, I wont spend any dime before I can audience the DAC.......

post #154 of 197
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Agreed but also disagreed too. Here I am with BHSE + 009 rigs and some of my headfi-er friend told me that I'm through with the journey. I kinda agree. But lately been spending some money again on guess what? Portable setup evil_smiley.gif.......Nothing really big though, few hundred here and there, nevertheless is also audio spending. In short, it wont stop. Been thinking of upgrading source but with the delicate nature of 009 and the price of the next level source, I wont spend any dime before I can audience the DAC.......

I tried a portable rig for awhile and it really just didn't give the returns I wanted. The LL + 009 was definitely 'done with amps and cans'...but the problem with that is then you move to source...Hoo boy.

post #155 of 197

yep. when one at pretty much the end of the road with the stats, then most likely its a sidegrade (is this even a word?)......to upgrade and get the final couple of last juices of perfection source is the choices and to tinker with source is definitely a big investment. I'm with the camp of people that believe 009 is on the bright side and a neutral and analytical will alleviate the brightness. I have a chance to audition some of modern dacs and although its nice but it simply doesn't synergize with 009+BHSE......

 

I did also auditioned some old topology/vintage/legacy dacs and I believe it suited better due to the warm/darkish sound.....YMMV

post #156 of 197

 

 

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If the source is properly designed then it will not matter if it's valve (tube) or solid state based.  

If the designer has tried to skew the sonic signature of the source then for me its a bad thing and should be avoided.  I personally don't want any source that tries to impose some artificial rose tinted view of the recording. 

Absolute rubbish. I have had solid state and tube amps in many varieties, and well designed tube amps in my experience are certainly not Rose Tinted, or in any way masking the sound or playing music in a tubey kind of old school way.

 

In fact, my current set-up is all tube (DAC, Pre-a,p, Power Amp) and it sounds fantastic - clean, clear, superb vocals and very strong bass etc. I would suggest you stop with the naff advice re tube gear, and spend some time with well designed equipment.

post #157 of 197

I have managed to tweak my system to the point where my 009s with my Stax 007t/ii amp are not bright with about all material even at high listening levels, and now the

sound is great: not fatiguing, amazing detail, not analytic, and just plain glorious. It does not have the massive staging or thunderous bass of the more expensive amp

I tried, but for an intimate sound, it is awesome.

post #158 of 197
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I have managed to tweak my system to the point where my 009s with my Stax 007t/ii amp are not bright with about all material even at high listening levels, and now the

sound is great: not fatiguing, amazing detail, not analytic, and just plain glorious. It does not have the massive staging or thunderous bass of the more expensive amp

I tried, but for an intimate sound, it is awesome.

Never found my SR-009s "bright" (like say the HE-6s) with either my SRM-727II (now sold) or my HeadAmp KGSS. In fact, I find the HD800s brighter too.

post #159 of 197

Same.

 

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Never found my SR-009s "bright" (like say the HE-6s) with either my SRM-727II (now sold) or my HeadAmp KGSS. In fact, I find the HD800s brighter too.

post #160 of 197

After reading this thread I did not see any unequivocal consensus that the answer is to simply get one of the main high end amps

(the BHSE, LL, or WES).

post #161 of 197

What about the Warthog?

post #162 of 197

Having a wide variety of amps, using them in balanced mode, I still find my HD800 brighter than Stax 009, just like some previous posters said.  I prefer more weight and body over the 009, so I prefer my LCD3, but in no way would I call my 009 bright. 

post #163 of 197

Having traded my HD800 towards an 009, I think the 009 extends the high frequencies further than the HD800 but without any grain at all, and more importantly without any fatiguing frequency response spikes.

post #164 of 197
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Having traded my HD800 towards an 009, I think the 009 extends the high frequencies further than the HD800 but without any grain at all, and more importantly without any fatiguing frequency response spikes.

Absolutely.
post #165 of 197

I'm agnostic, and my HD800s, LCD3s, and SR009s all get significant headtime, depending on my mood.

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