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post #256 of 2047
9/23/12 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by putente View Post

Swimsonny, congratulations on the great results and the nice video! Now I'm sure this is the way to go for me... beerchug.gif

Yeh i was rather surprised and thanks mate! Yes i think we have finally found something for you putente, when a few more reviews come in, choose the signature you want, get a kit in and happy days me thinks for you ;)

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post #257 of 2047
9/23/12 at 10:40am
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Yeh i was rather surprised and thanks mate! Yes i think we have finally found something for you putente, when a few more reviews come in, choose the signature you want, get a kit in and happy days me thinks for you ;)

 

 

Wise words, mate, and that's exactly what I'll do! I see Cosmic Ears will be me way into CIEMs... biggrin.gif

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post #258 of 2047
9/23/12 at 10:53am

A question to all Pure and Sport (dynamic driver) owners: How is the bass and sub-bass on them, how low frequency response compares to reference bass headphones like LCD-2 and FutureSonics Atrios? In other words: is bass and sub-bass close to flat response and how deep does it goes, can it reach very tough 20-25Hz region? How durable is non-detachable cord on Pure model? And has anybody had with them any fit issues? Is detachable cable worth the extra money?


Edited by TiEx - 9/23/12 at 10:57am
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post #259 of 2047
9/23/12 at 12:25pm
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project86, did you notice my question to you some posts back? redface.gif

 

 

Sorry, I missed that one. I do hear quite good things from the dynamic driver, though I'm sure it is tuned differently in the HY3 design than the Pure. The Pure requires it to run full range, so there is likely some sacrifice in the lowest regions to get a better overall response. With the HY3, it can do its thing on the lows only, and it should be rather nice. Can't wait to hear it.

 

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A question to all Pure and Sport (dynamic driver) owners: How is the bass and sub-bass on them, how low frequency response compares to reference bass headphones like LCD-2 and FutureSonics Atrios? In other words: is bass and sub-bass close to flat response and how deep does it goes, can it reach very tough 20-25Hz region? How durable is non-detachable cord on Pure model? And has anybody had with them any fit issues? Is detachable cable worth the extra money?

 

It's good, but not that good. I don't think it's fair to compare a $1k full size planar magnetic headphone to a $100 custom IEM. I'd say bass extension is quite good to 30Hz or so, and then slowly drops off from there. But I'd have to break out test tones to be really sure. 

 

I have pictures in my original post of the basic Pure cable. It's nice, not cheap feeling, though it can tangle somewhat easily. Getting the Plus package will get you the premium cable but it is still fixed. You'd have to configure a Flex model to get the basic dynamic driver with a detachable cable. 

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post #260 of 2047
9/23/12 at 12:42pm

Apologies if I missed this but what's the isolation like of the pure?

 

Thanks

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post #261 of 2047
9/23/12 at 1:04pm
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It's good, but not that good. I don't think it's fair to compare a $1k full size planar magnetic headphone to a $100 custom IEM. I'd say bass extension is quite good to 30Hz or so, and then slowly drops off from there. But I'd have to break out test tones to be really sure. 

 

I know it isn't fair to compare it to LCD-2, but then again look at the FutureSonics Atrio. Atrio X model price for today is 50$ BTW. According to reviews Atrios bass response goes really flat down to 20Hz just like LCD-2. Of course dynamic driver can't lay out high end sound like BA or orthodynamic technology. I'm talking about frequency response only. 

 

Thank you anyways for revealing such a gem to the crowd. Will wait anxiously to the detailed review. Please in review lay out more details about their bass response (single dynamic driver). Linearity of response, how deep bass goes, is there a midbass emphasis, is there a bass rumble in bass heavy tracks etc.

 

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Base model with dynamic driver is not very sensitive - I had to crank my Clip+ to almost full volume to get a comfortable level out of them. This means they may not be loud enough when used with some cellphones. But most things should power them well enough.

 

Can you please clarify what was the volume level on Clip+ and how loud is Pure model with Clip+ volume crancked all the way up to maximum.

 

Thank you for great information.

Best regards!


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post #262 of 2047
9/24/12 at 2:33am
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Sorry, I missed that one. I do hear quite good things from the dynamic driver, though I'm sure it is tuned differently in the HY3 design than the Pure. The Pure requires it to run full range, so there is likely some sacrifice in the lowest regions to get a better overall response. With the HY3, it can do its thing on the lows only, and it should be rather nice. Can't wait to hear it.

 

 

No problem! And that makes perfect sense! The hybrid models should have even better bass performance than the Pure model, which uses the dynamic driver as full-range...

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post #263 of 2047
9/24/12 at 8:17am
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So I've been going back and forth on the basic Pure model.... Sometimes I listen and think "this sounds kind of muddy and dull". But other times it sounds pretty darn good. I have to remember to do comparisons with other budget universals to keep a proper perspective. 

 

Keep in mind that I'm used to listening to far more expensive IEMs and headphones than this. So my perspective and expectations are not perfect for this type of product. I'm curious to have some other people try them and give their impressions. 

 

Anyway, the point is that I don't want to build the base model up as being better than it really is. It has some strong points and some weak points, but I won't pretend that it is the absolute best buy there is in the $100 realm. Especially with things like TF10 and Klipsch X10 going for such low prices. 

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post #264 of 2047
9/24/12 at 10:11am

I need to find out which Hybrid model is better suited for my sonic tastes, the dual hybrid Flex model or the triple hybrid Flex/HY3 model. I must wait for some reviews before I order... redface.gif

 

 

project86, the dual hybrid Flex model should feature the both drivers you have on your Pure (dynamic) and Pure Plus (single BA) models combined in one CIEM shell, right?

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post #265 of 2047
9/24/12 at 11:19am
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So I've been going back and forth on the basic Pure model.... Sometimes I listen and think "this sounds kind of muddy and dull". But other times it sounds pretty darn good. I have to remember to do comparisons with other budget universals to keep a proper perspective. 

 

Keep in mind that I'm used to listening to far more expensive IEMs and headphones than this. So my perspective and expectations are not perfect for this type of product. I'm curious to have some other people try them and give their impressions. 

 

Anyway, the point is that I don't want to build the base model up as being better than it really is. It has some strong points and some weak points, but I won't pretend that it is the absolute best buy there is in the $100 realm. Especially with things like TF10 and Klipsch X10 going for such low prices. 


Keep in mind that over here in the uk we don't get the same good deals that you lot do.  For example the x10 with it's flimsy cable is still £120 (and for some reason the x10i has shot up at around to around £199, where a few months ago it could be had for £159 quite regularly.)  Similarly the venerable TF10 is still £199 here with the very rare exception of it dropping to £99 once in a blue moon.  The Shures are around £75 here so that ones a good match for it I suppose but apart from that it's slim pickings.  We laugh at people wandering around the streets with nothing but monster or bose, but when you go into the popular electronic shops here and that's all they sell then it's no real surprise!

 

Oh and just tried those impressions that I posted on and got quite a good fit which surprised me, so more tempted then ever to do it (curse you headfi).

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post #266 of 2047
9/24/12 at 11:37am
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I need to find out which Hybrid model is better suited for my sonic tastes, the dual hybrid Flex model or the triple hybrid Flex/HY3 model. I must wait for some reviews before I order... redface.gif

 

 

project86, the dual hybrid Flex model should feature the both drivers you have on your Pure (dynamic) and Pure Plus (single BA) models combined in one CIEM shell, right?


Have you tried emailing with your preferences?  They might be able to help you figure them out.  Atm there's a three week wait whilst they get more cables in so you could be waiting a while.  I think for me the pure is a good choice as at work I don't need absolute fidelity and just need noise to block out surrounding noise.

 

Cheers

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post #267 of 2047
9/24/12 at 11:47am
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Have you tried emailing with your preferences?  They might be able to help you figure them out.  Atm there's a three week wait whilst they get more cables in so you could be waiting a while.  I think for me the pure is a good choice as at work I don't need absolute fidelity and just need noise to block out surrounding noise.

 

Cheers

 

 

I was thinking about doing that, as I've read CE are very helpful and user friendly! Still, since I'm aiming for the higher end hybrid models (dual or triple hybrid), I'd still like to read some user reviews before I buy. And these will be my first CIEM's! smile.gif

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post #268 of 2047
9/24/12 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post I won't pretend that it is the absolute best buy there is in the $100 realm. Especially with things like TF10 and Klipsch X10 going for such low prices. 

I'm looking for a replacement for the TF10s I have, as I don't really get on with the sound (or fit!).

I for one would be most appreciative if you offer a brief comparison of the flagship Cosmic triple hybrid to the TF10 once they arrive.

I shamefully admit to doing quite a lot of my listening on Spotify Premium, as I love the freedom to explore and discover new music.

Obviously the limitations imposed on sound quality will be affecting my appreciation of the TF10s, but Spotify is perfectly enjoyable through my 'big rig' (Spendor S6 floorstanders), and even with high rez files I find the TFs strident and shouty in the lower treble regions.

Sometimes it's enough to make me grimace and remove the 'phones!.

I also miss the midrange and wonder if the Cosmic triples might suit me more.

Thanks for providing us all with your thoughts BTW 86.

Come on Cosmic!, ship those 'phones!

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post #269 of 2047
9/24/12 at 12:41pm
Impressions done today. £20 from specsavers.

Just need to decide on hybrid or triple BA.

Asked CE about feedback on tuning. But having Some connection issues at work.
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post #270 of 2047
9/24/12 at 2:38pm

Any views on the relative merits of the three shell sizes?

 

I understand that the micro offers less isolation (not a problem for me), but was wondering which is likely to be best for comfort out of the three?

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