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Why are some IEM more expensive than some others??

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Isn't the isolation coming from the foam and the fact that it's inside the ears?

 

What makes others more expensive than others, except the durability

post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by PlatinumWolfy View Post

Isn't the isolation coming from the foam and the fact that it's inside the ears?

 

What makes others more expensive than others, except the durability

the drivers most probably? it is the heart and the only moving component of the earphone afterall

research,development time, materials, and other factors such as branding, cost of manufacturing and profits also cause the price of the earphone to be as it is


Edited by streetdragon - 9/9/12 at 7:11am
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

So basically.. It's just that? Even the cheapest IEM can isolate just as much as expensive ones?

post #4 of 14

I believe the components just cost a fraction of the actual IEM cost and the major cost is due to the R&D and marketing overheads.

post #5 of 14
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So basically.. It's just that? Even the cheapest IEM can isolate just as much as expensive ones?

isolation should be cheap, your money goes into better sound,
you have to check also if the iem is open or closed back, try to audition them at the shop cause different silicone tips isolate differently, how i do not know though

post #6 of 14
More often than not... The more spensive ones sound better.

LOLz, Jim
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More often than not... The more spensive ones sound better.
LOLz, Jim

And they have a bigger brand on the logo!

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

Righttttttttttttttttttttttt......

post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

IEM you put the thing inside your ear.. is it good to clean it / wipe the foam or whatever cover is used?

Or will it damage / break it in any way?

post #10 of 14

Why is a Dacia cheaper than a Bentley?

 

They do the same job of moving people from one place to another.

 

Have a check of you user manual and manufacturers website for care instructions.

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 

No I didn't I just wanted to ask

post #12 of 14

I've wondered this as well. Isn't it true that besides Sony and one other company, all the drivers for IEM's are made by a single company (OEM - original equipment manufacturer). This is true in digital cameras too where even Leica's digital camera is being powered by a Kodak image sensor (IIRC). How many different ways could put a driver inside a tiny IEM? How many different ways could you carve and mold the piece? It still has to fit in your ear. At least with the camera analogy there are other factors at play that make a huge difference like the software, the lens, housing shape and material, extra accessories. But, in IEM's, it's really just the IEM's. You can argue the cables too but whatever. So why are there so many manufacturers and models and why do we think they sound so much different?

post #13 of 14

It's what the market will bear.  As you go up the ladder of sound the law of diminishing returns takes affect.  While I haven't heard everything out there, I would say TF10 at $168 is best value IEM on the market.

With some of the higher end products I think we underestimate the amount of  R&D that goes into a product.  W3 took years to develop.  I would bet John Grado and sons spent countless hours creating the tuning spec for GR10 which has been reportedly labeled an RS1 IEM equivalent.  For those that are audiophiles, creating an RS1 IEM equivalent is HUGE and the $400 price tag is warranted.  And yes, it should be supplied with carry case/pouch and since it doesn't maybe $395 should be the more realistic price.

 

Don't get me wrong I think there can be a big markup for marketing and name brand (Dre Beats) but I think a bigger rip-off is on lower end stuff where they are charging $50-$100 for garbage IEM's that probably cost $10 to make with barely any attention to detail/QC.

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Originally Posted by sygyzy View Post

I've wondered this as well. Isn't it true that besides Sony and one other company, all the drivers for IEM's are made by a single company (OEM - original equipment manufacturer). This is true in digital cameras too where even Leica's digital camera is being powered by a Kodak image sensor (IIRC). How many different ways could put a driver inside a tiny IEM? How many different ways could you carve and mold the piece? It still has to fit in your ear. At least with the camera analogy there are other factors at play that make a huge difference like the software, the lens, housing shape and material, extra accessories. But, in IEM's, it's really just the IEM's. You can argue the cables too but whatever. So why are there so many manufacturers and models and why do we think they sound so much different?

 

 

it's because they are tuned to sound differently. and even if they are just that - iems, they are also kinda complex and need to be thoroughly researched and developed to get the desired sound. the oem parts that they are based of are just that - basic parts that are developed in different directions to comply with different market needs. take sony for example. I'm nt sure, but I suspect that their new xb90ex and ex1000 share the same driver (not only because they are the same size) but as owners of said iems say, they sound really different. what I want to say is that it's not the basic elements that dictates the price, it's how they are implemented in the final product that makes the difference.

 

also, mind you that some high priced iems are manufactured not in china, but japan, or germany for example. labor costs much more there, so this is also a point to consider. every product is like that, not only iems. the thing that iems are physically small doesn't mean that they are easy to make or are not a result of long research and development... 

 

 

 

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I don't want to sound like an ass.

 

But gtfo if you got nothing useful to say.

 

may I remind you this post:

 


 

 

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So basically.. It's just that? Even the cheapest IEM can isolate just as much as expensive ones?

 

I've said smth useful in that post - isolation isn't the only thing iems are supposed to do. heck, some of them don't isolate at all, but they are considered one of the best iems (JVC fx700). reading from your posts, it seems like you attribute a big portion of the price of iem to how well they isolate. well, you are wrong. also, as someone already said it, the question is too general - why do some iems cost more than others? come on, why do some cars cost more than others? you know the answer already, right?it's the same for everything i this world -  it's because they are better in what they do - sound good, look good, are comfortable to wear, last longer and so on... I didn't mean to be disrespectful but I still maintain that this thread is not very useful, not for me, not for you and not for the forum in general. also, GTFO isn't the most polite way to reply to someone you don't know, right?

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