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post #16 of 26
9/9/12 at 1:00pm
Yeh if I wrote like this more often I would have failed English ahahah. But yeh was an early morning after a heavy night do yeh, oh well ahah.
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post #17 of 26
9/9/12 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Yeh if I wrote like this more often I would have failed English ahahah. But yeh was an early morning after a heavy night do yeh, oh well ahah.

 

LOL, understandable XD  Don't fail Engrish...  Er, I mean English.  

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post #18 of 26
9/22/12 at 5:13am

I do believe the W3 and the 3.Ai have the same "gene pool" but they are tuned differently. 

 

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post #19 of 26
9/23/12 at 11:07pm
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So is it a worthwhile upgrade?
 

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post #20 of 26
9/25/12 at 1:48pm

No offense intended, but to me an "upgrade" would be to purchased something that isn't similar to what you already have. So I would not really consider the 3.Ai as a far reaching upgrade.  The 4.Ai may bring you to a level you didn't expect or even know what exsisted.

 

That said, worse case scenerio if you felt you needed to, you could sell the 4.Ai. Second hand Heir Audio products are appreciating in some instances something that boggles my mind!

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post #21 of 26
9/26/12 at 10:28am

Look for better soundstage, imaging and instrument separation if you like to stick with same signature.

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post #22 of 26
11/11/12 at 9:25am

Gravedigging here but that graph does not look like the W3, the treble is too tame and there's a spike at 1k; it looks to me like the UM3x, and the bottom says "UM3" so I'm inclined to think that's what it is.

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The 3.Ai and W3 aren't meant to be anything similar to the 4.Ai (IDK about EX1000s).  Dang, just look at the waterfall for the W3, the thing screams bass texture and fun.  Not neutral...

 

 

That graph does not say anything near neutral...  Heck, it doesn't even say balanced...  It screams bass monster XD (which the Heir Audios are as well).

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post #23 of 26
11/11/12 at 9:46am
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Gravedigging here but that graph does not look like the W3, the treble is too tame and there's a spike at 1k; it looks to me like the UM3x, and the bottom says "UM3" so I'm inclined to think that's what it is.

 

That is very odd...  But good eye on that catch.  GoldenEars offers that graph for the W3 XD  But they offer a different graph for the UM3X.  The W3 graph is labeled with a UM3, the UM3X graph is labeled with the UM3X.  The graphs are below.  This is odd though.  Also remember, these graphs are compensated for using GE compensation.

 

Their W3 Graph from: http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=GR_Earphones&page=9&document_srl=1562

 

 

Their UM3X graph from: http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=GR_Earphones&page=8&document_srl=1678

 

 

But you do make a good point.  I'm as confused as you are right now :p


Edited by tinyman392 - 11/11/12 at 9:47am
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post #24 of 26
11/11/12 at 10:08am

It looks like they might have just mixed them up. The UM3x graph clearly portrays a v-shaped IEM with a distinct peak at 10k and the biggest emphasis obviously sitting at around 200hz, which is midbass; sounds like the W3 to me, although the treble doesn't seem quite high enough. The other is obviously a darker IEM (given the overall emphasis of everything over the treble) with a more linear response and peak emphasis between 1k and 2k, which fits the bill of UM3x.

 

What does GE compensation entail?

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post #25 of 26
11/11/12 at 10:14am

EX1000 has the most deep, clean, punchy bass. 

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post #26 of 26
11/11/12 at 10:19am
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It looks like they might have just mixed them up. The UM3x graph clearly portrays a v-shaped IEM with a distinct peak at 10k and the biggest emphasis obviously sitting at around 200hz, which is midbass; sounds like the W3 to me, although the treble doesn't seem quite high enough. The other is obviously a darker IEM (given the overall emphasis of everything over the treble) with a more linear response and peak emphasis between 1k and 2k, which fits the bill of UM3x.

What does GE compensation entail?

I think that's just about what the compensation does. It seems to tone down the highs a bit.
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