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This Prokofiev Piano Concerto 3 is something from another world.

 

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This is for me the best recording of classical music I own and love to death..

 

Bought it years ago in some crap store not knowing any Bach piano or who Glenn Gould was.

 

For me, nothing comes close..


Edited by Quinto - 12/5/13 at 2:59pm
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These are all equally important IMO:

 

That being said, with Starker (who recorded these masterpieces 5 times!)

I have only heard this version and the one he did for Mercury.

That one is also great but I prefer this more mature version.

The recorded sound I also feel is much better.

 

 

The importance of the pieces themselves cannot be underestimated in their role of pushing the boundaries

for the Cello in general and the cello as a solo instrument in particular.

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Personally | really dislike the Bach Rostropovich, he totally disregards the retorical aspect of the music, which I adore in Anner Bylsma (Sony) rendition..

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Originally Posted by Quinto View Post
 

Personally | really dislike the Bach Rostropovich, he totally disregards the retorical aspect of the music, which I adore in Anner Bylsma (Sony) rendition..

 

Ok so assuming you mean "rhetorical" I'm guessing you mean "idiomatic"?

 

Nothing against Bylsma (who's Bach I also enjoy) but could you please clarify your opinion?

 

Oxford definition of "rhetorical":

adjective

      of, relating to, or concerned with the art of rhetoric:repetition is a common rhetorical device.

 
  • expressed in terms intended to persuade or impress:the rhetorical commitment of the government to give priority to primary education
  • (of a question) asked in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information.
Rostropovich does indeed personalize his interpretations IMO but.....
post #922 of 8942

One of the unique aspects of Bach's music is that it transcends Baroque performance practice and works in many other interpretive styles. I like HIP Bach, but I love Stokowski's transcriptions just as much, if not more.

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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
 

One of the unique aspects of Bach's music is that it transcends Baroque performance practice and works in many other interpretive styles. I like HIP Bach, but I love Stokowski's transcriptions just as much, if not more.

 

I agree with you but maybe "unique" is not the right word.

 

I also happen to enjoy Karajan's versions of Corelli's concerti or his Haydn(among other composers)

as well as several HIP recordings.

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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

 

Ok so assuming you mean "rhetorical" I'm guessing you mean "idiomatic"?

 

Nothing against Bylsma (who's Bach I also enjoy) but could you please clarify your opinion?

 

Oxford definition of "rhetorical":

adjective

      of, relating to, or concerned with the art of rhetoric:repetition is a common rhetorical device.

 
  • expressed in terms intended to persuade or impress:the rhetorical commitment of the government to give priority to primary education
  • (of a question) asked in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information.
Rostropovich does indeed personalize his interpretations IMO but.....


Sure, first of all, please excuse me, English is my second language..I do my best

 

With rhetorical in the musical context, I meant the sence of tonation and breathing you experience during eloquent conversation between congenial spirits.. This is what I hear (sort of) when listening to Bylsma's Bach

 

and this is IMO what single-voice polyphony, in which Bach's genius shines, asks of the this music

 

When I hear Rostropovich' Bach, the breathing sounds unnatural, there is no human dialogue, it's sounds ad hoc even.. I remember him saying he wasn't fond of it himself, he stuggled with it.. I think it shows..

 

Don't misunderstand me, I love Rostropovich's play and respect the man greatly, his Bach..not so much..

 

 

Hope you can make chocolate of this, as we Dutch say :wink_face:

post #925 of 8942

Can someone point me in the direction of good Tchaikovsky recordings? I just want the Symphonies and concertos for now. I have the Evgeny Kissin piano concerto no1 and 2 but maybe there is something better? 

 

I'm looking forward to Tchaikovsky and HD800. :D

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Not that Haydn was a Baroque composer....

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Originally Posted by Quinto View Post
 


Sure, first of all, please excuse me, English is my second language..I do my best

 

With rhetorical in the musical context, I meant the sence of tonation and breathing you experience during eloquent conversation between congenial spirits.. This is what I hear (sort of) when listening to Bylsma's Bach

 

and this is IMO what single-voice polyphony, in which Bach's genius shines, asks of the this music

 

When I hear Rostropovich' Bach, the breathing sounds unnatural, there is no human dialogue, it's sounds ad hoc even.. I remember him saying he wasn't fond of it himself, he stuggled with it.. I think it shows..

 

Don't misunderstand me, I love Rostropovich's play and respect the man greatly, his Bach..not so much..

 

 

Hope you can make chocolate of this, as we Dutch say :wink_face:

 

No excuse me necessary :smile: just curious.

Your English is far superior to my Dutch.....

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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

 

No excuse me necessary :smile: just curious.

Your English is far superior to my Dutch.....

 I would be VERY curious to see where he was quoted saying he didn't like Bach's cello music .

IMO all performers should struggle with Bach.

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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

 I would be VERY curious to see where he was quoted saying he didn't like Bach's cello music .

IMO all performers should struggle with Bach.


sorry, I remember him saying he wasn't satisfied with his own Bach, not Bach himself, that would be outrageous:D

 

All performers should struggle with Bach I agree, I know Casals and Bylsma did

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