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All creative people are artists... painters, musicians, actors, sculptors, filmmakers... The medium might be different, but the person doing the creating is the same.

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All creative people are artists... painters, musicians, actors, sculptors, filmmakers... The medium might be different, but the person doing the creating is the same.

 

So scientists, doctors and engineers are not creative?

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All creative people are artists... painters, musicians, actors, sculptors, filmmakers... The medium might be different, but the person doing the creating is the same.


It`s a good thing you set us straight on that one!!:wink_face:

 

I`m not sure what this has to do with having the capacity to enjoy both Beethoven`s and Schoenberg`s(specifically mentioned in my comment) music.

 

Or Bach`s for that matter.

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There are artists who stand head and shoulders above all others. Beethoven was one. So was Duke Ellington. Picasso. Michelangelo. Caruso. The Beatles. Frank Lloyd Wright. Nijinsky. Even their worst is more interesting than most other artists' best. As you become more familiar with artists, you realize that they aren't all equal. There really are some who stand out.

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Schoenberg is not on the same level as Bach by just about any knowledgeable person's standards. He was good, but he wasn't in that select group.

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So God just kind of sits in neutral, then? And LvBs boundary-pushing is surely a factor in his status as a serious contender to the "greatest" title. The problem with Schoenberg's revolution is that he took a hammer, a bit, to the emotional edifice of music, thus while it is intellectually stimulating it feels incomplete. Not the case for LvB.

It may of course be a factor but it should not be what Beethoven is remembered for. But it was the first thing that you could think of when some of us crowned Bach. He hasn't stood the test of time because of his 3rd symphony or his Grosse fugue or Hammerklavier...

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All creative people are artists... painters, musicians, actors, sculptors, filmmakers... The medium might be different, but the person doing the creating is the same.

:blink:

 

Not all creative people are artists obviously, the medium are different, but the person creating is expressing his/her individiality so is per definition NOT the same..

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It may of course be a factor but it should not be what Beethoven is remembered for. But it was the first thing that you could think of when some of us crowned Bach. He hasn't stood the test of time because of his 3rd symphony or his Grosse fugue or Hammerklavier...

 

Of course he has. In *addition* to these great works, which stand up to anything Bach wrote, IMHO, he was also a revolutionary. That means something, even if you don't want it to.

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