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Wow thanks I couldn't tear myself away. These videos were fascinating, and I learned so much. It's always very interesting when you hear the music deconstructed and get a glimpse of its insides. You get to know the music in a new light and get a little bit closer to it.


Edited by SunTanScanMan - 11/24/14 at 4:25pm
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ref. David Fray

 

Quite wonderful IMO.. (most is in English)

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Indeed +1 ! Thanks a lot for sharing the video.

Fascinating how tedious process to get it just right ... some of the faces also told stories (like: Oh man, this guy is a piece of work !) ;). In the end I think, he achieved a very emotional and dynamically loaded rendition that is more interesting then what the ensemble was starting with in many passages. Sometimes it was obviously difficult to get the message across but they got there eventually.

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Quite wonderful IMO.. (most is in English)

 

 

I like watching master classes, this one is really great

 

 

Whats the story with the glenn gould thing? Is he trying to be Glenn or something? 

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Whats the story with the glenn gould thing? Is he trying to be Glenn or something? 


There is no story, Fray is being himself...but lots of people see Gould in him..must be the hair :wink_face:

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There is no story, Fray is being himself...but lots of people see Gould in him..must be the hair :wink_face:

Haha.... the humming as well struck me as very gould like and the posture - stooping over the keys like that. 

 

He pulls some faces at the start. Very funny but he was obviously really enjoying himself. 

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Continuing in my journey with Eastern Central European chamber music. Dvorak's melodies have a 'bend' to them which makes me yearn for it. It's the only way I can describe why I'm so completely smitten with his string music. I've definitely been struck a composer and music style of my preference.

 

I'm also enjoying Wiener Streichsextett's  Dvorak quintet/sextet on the EMI label. It's smoother and slightly more polite, while the Smetana quartet's playing style has more bite to it. I like both, depending on which mood I am in.


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Continuing in my journey with Eastern European chamber music. Dvorak's melodies have a 'bend' to them which makes me yearn for it. It's the only way I can describe why I'm so completely smitten with his string music. I've definitely been struck a composer and music style of my preference.

 

I'm also enjoying Wiener Streichsextett's  Dvorak quintet/sextet on the EMI label. It's smoother and slightly more polite, while the Smetana quartet's playing style has more bite to it. I like both, depending on which mood I am in.


Please remember,Despite what you may have been told, CZ is in Central Europe.

Use Eastern Europe in reference to CZ to any Czech and you will be promptly corrected.

 

Really enjoy the Smetana Quartet.

You can't go wrong with their recordings of Czech music.

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Please remember, Despite what you may have been told, CZ is in Central Europe.
Use Eastern Europe in reference to CZ to any Czech and you will be promptly corrected.

"East" or "Central" depends how far East you're placing the border of Europe but the Czech Republic is central anyway (though not according to the UN or EU, link).
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"East" or "Central" depends how far East you're placing the border of Europe but the Czech Republic is central anyway (though not according to the UN or EU, link).


Most Czechs consider themselves to be in Central Europe and identify themselves culturally as such.Trust me, I'm half Czech and half German and have lived in both countries.

At the very least, every Bohemian I've ever met was hostile at the suggestion of them being of the "East". 

 

American's(and their Canadian neighbors) often mistake Eastern European culture due to the Soviet controlled "Eastern Block".

Historically, there are far deeper implications.

 

Incidentally,take a look at the map of Europe and look at Austria.When was the last time you heard Austria referred to as "Eastern Europe"?

 

EDIT: I'm guessing the UN and EU info pertains to the Slavic based language.


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Im interested in the piano quintet by Shostakovitch - where should I be looking?  

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Most Czechs consider themselves to be in Central Europe and identify themselves culturally as such.Trust me, I'm half Czech and half German and have lived in both countries.

At the very least, every Bohemian I've ever met was hostile at the suggestion of them being of the "East". 

 

American's(and their Canadian neighbors) often mistake Eastern European culture due to the Soviet controlled "Eastern Block".

Historically, there are far deeper implications.

 

Incidentally,take a look at the map of Europe and look at Austria.When was the last time you heard Austria referred to as "Eastern Europe"?

 

EDIT: I'm guessing the UN and EU info pertains to the Slavic based language.

 Hi perhapss, I'm very happy to stand corrected. As with everything it is important to be as accurate and detailed as possible, not least when referring to nationalities and cultural identities. So thanks for clarifying, and apologies if any offence was caused. I'm Korean, but I've lived in Europe for most of my life (Italy and the UK), and my ex-gf studied and lived in the Czech Rep. I've visited Praha and Karlovy vary a number of times, so I should know better. I think the history of the Soviet 'Eastern bloc' as you say does play an influential, if not less than accurate and simplistic labelling of the region, but I agree it should not trump millennia of history prior to it.

 

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The record mentioned in my previous post.

 


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Im interested in the piano quintet by Shostakovitch - where should I be looking?  


Janine Jansen & friends recorded a great one and of course Borodin Quartet + Sviatoslav Richter

 

(Gould's + Julliard Quartet is special but old (not so good) recording)


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 Hi perhapss, I'm very happy to stand corrected. As with everything it is important to be as accurate and detailed as possible, not least when referring to nationalities and cultural identities. So thanks for clarifying, and apologies if any offence was caused. I'm Korean, but I've lived in Europe for most of my life (Italy and the UK), and my ex-gf studied and lived in the Czech Rep. I've visited Praha and Karlovy vary a number of times, so I should know better. I think the history of the Soviet 'Eastern bloc' as you say does play an influential, if not less than accurate and simplistic labelling of the region, but I agree it should not trump a millennia of history prior to it.

 

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The record mentioned in my previous post.

 

IMO there are many contradictions regarding east and west with Czech culture.

Despite their hostility toward being regarded as "Eastern Europe" there are some real "Eastern" influences.A Slavic based language for example.

 

At the same time, There can be hostility toward things "West". Especially regarding Germany.

Smetana himself was often critical of Dvorak`s music for it`s adherence to German forms and influence.

 

These contradictions are a result of centuries of criss-crossing of invaders from both sides.

 

These things aside, Many Czech ensembles, the Smetana Quartet among them, still retain a distinctive character that can be identified as uniquely Czech IMO.

The Czech Philharmonic Orchestra also comes to mind in this context.

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