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post #1921 of 8942
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Actually yes I get it.. Billy Budd is a 20th century opera. And Marriner is British... 

 

BUT! Marriner spent a great chunk of his life conducting American orchestras as well as St Martin's.  

 

Pssst! If you've seen the opera, Billy Budd is a mariner and he kills with his own hands... Therefore, "...20th century works at the hands of Marriner." sounds like he is killing them. (Which knowing Marriner, he probably is! 20th century isn't his forte.)


Edited by bigshot - 6/29/14 at 1:54am
post #1922 of 8942
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I have the 78rpm version of Mitropoulis. It's good, but for a historical performance, I prefer Rachmaninov/Philadelphia.

 

I would say it's great not "good".

Why settle for just one?They're both well worth a listening or two IMO.No reason to be monogamous in the listening zone.

 

Incidentally, one of the main reasons I suggest the Mitropoulis is the intense reading of the Vaughn Williams Fantasia to warm up with.

Interesting pairing and a great listening session.

post #1923 of 8942
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
 

 

Pssst! If you've seen the opera, Billy Budd is a mariner and he kills with his own hands... Therefore, "...20th century works at the hands of Marriner." sounds like he is killing them. (Which knowing Marriner, he probably is! 20th century isn't his forte.)

Well its all clear now, oh and very clever! :) 

 

Though a little cynical my friend... If you've done your homework on Marriner you would know that he was one of the few conductors to push 20th century (as well as early Baroque) repertoire into the mainstream. Not many famous conductors were playing Schoenberg and Webern in the 60's and 70's. It's just that his more popular recordings are of course his Mozart and Handel.... But then they will always be more popular to mainstream audiences. Shame.

Now, whether he was killing Schoenberg or not? I doubt it - He wasn't Karajan (who I'm sure would have liked to kill him ;)  

post #1924 of 8942

He kind of rounds off all the corners a bit too much in modern music. Much better in Mozart, and I have a disk of Suppe overtures by him that is fantastic. I heard Karajan kill Rite of Spring the other day. Stravinsky played like Strauss!


Edited by bigshot - 6/29/14 at 11:39am
post #1925 of 8942
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Stravinsky played like Strauss!

An improvement, though not as much as actually listening to Strauss.
post #1926 of 8942
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
 

He kind of rounds off all the corners a bit too much in modern music. Much better in Mozart, and I have a disk of Suppe overtures by him that is fantastic. I heard Karajan kill Rite of Spring the other day. Stravinsky played like Strauss!

Yup he was defo one of the great Mozart conductors. 

post #1927 of 8942
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He kind of rounds off all the corners a bit too much in modern music. Much better in Mozart, and I have a disk of Suppe overtures by him that is fantastic.
Every conductor has their off days. But I have the Eloquence reissue of Marriner's Vaughan Williams recordings, and think it's fantastic. I've also been listening to his complete Mozart symphonies set recently. Will make a detailed comparison with his Argo (earlier) and EMI (later) recordings at some point. Symphony 35 from the complete cycle is definitely better than the EMI one, though.

Sony has been digging up buried treasures lately: After reissuing the great Beethoven & Mozart violin sonata recordings of Zukerman and Neikrug, they have followed up with Tal & Groethuysen's complete set of Schubert's piano music for four hands (7 CDs). Amazon is shipping this to me now. From what I've heard, THIS is definitely the set to beat. I've heard them perform his two early fantasias (D.1 & D.9) on youtube - they sound like mature masterpieces in these hands. (Beautiful cover, too!)


Edited by eyeresist - 6/29/14 at 7:15pm
post #1928 of 8942

What about the stuff on HDtracks? I would like some better sounding classical recordings. I'm not talking about buying 100-disc sets, but maybe 1 or 2 great albums. 

 

Specifically looking at Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition. Loved this album and ELP's take on it.

post #1929 of 8942

For Pictures at an Exhibition, just get the CD of Reiner's version on Living Stereo. You're not going to find better sound than that. Bitrates don't matter because classical music is generally all well mastered. A CD will sound as good as any other format.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mussorgsky-Pictures-Exhibition-Mountain-Showpieces/dp/B000003FMY/


Edited by bigshot - 6/30/14 at 10:37am
post #1930 of 8942
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For Pictures at an Exhibition, just get the CD of Reiner's version on Living Stereo. You're not going to find better sound than that. Bitrates don't matter because classical music is generally all well mastered. A CD will sound as good as any other format.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Mussorgsky-Pictures-Exhibition-Mountain-Showpieces/dp/B000003FMY/

Same exact album LoL. Think I'll download from HDtracks just to be easier. Only $8 difference and I can make my own MP3 or FLAC from the WAV. Thanks!

post #1931 of 8942
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For Pictures at an Exhibition, just get the CD of Reiner's version on Living Stereo. You're not going to find better sound than that.
Undeniably a top choice, but there is some low-level hiss. Almost imperceptible, and I think unimportant, but a dealbreaker for some (at least according to some idiot on Amazon!).
post #1932 of 8942

Have you heard it? The reason I ask is because I have heard a LOT of classical recordings, and this one is one of the best. I use Marche Slav on this disk to adjust my low end equalization because it goes so low and is so perfectly modulated. I can imagine idiots at Amazon saying it doesn't sound good, but I have trouble imagining someone who has actually heard the CD saying that. There are Japanese audiophiles that go ape over LP pressings, and the out of print SACD is beginning to go up in price. This is one of the best recordings ever for sound quality.


Edited by bigshot - 6/30/14 at 7:23pm
post #1933 of 8942
Oh crap - I had just finished a big reply when I realised I was thinking of Munch's recording of the Saint Saens Organ symphony. I always get these two confused - for me they are sort of the emblems of the Living Stereo series. I do have the Reiner but haven't listened to it for a while (I tend to go for the Russians in this work). Just skimming Amazon, I think I have an earlier (1993) edition of the CD that is coupled with some Respighi rather than other Russian works.

I assume the recording info for the Saint Saens largely applies to the Mussorgsky as well? The notes, at least in my edition, are interesting, describing the original recording process (only two mics, I think) and how the tapes were transfered with an absolute minimum of interference (all equipment involved is listed).
Edited by eyeresist - 6/30/14 at 8:58pm
post #1934 of 8942

This album is not strictly classical. It is more of a mix of different types of music that Andre Heuvelman, 1Th solo trumpet of the Rotterdam Philharmonic orchestra favors.

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 After Silence,Andre Heuvelman
"Sometimes you find what you are not looking for and that is especially true for the music on this album. The music on After Silence crossed my path, by meeting people or visiting places, events taking place or just materializing in my mind, but the one unifying factor for all 11 compositions is that they appeared after a moment of silence. 
Silence is the most important part of my music making. 
Silence is there, foregoing every first note I play. 
Silence being the place for inspiration. 
Silence which lets me start each piece of music as a child hearing it for the first time. 
Silence keeping me from automatically following the beaten path."...... Andre Heuvelman

 The sound quality of this download is incredible; placement, depth, natural decay and and absolutely gorgeous trumpet sound.

Highly recommended.

 

post #1935 of 8942
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Have you heard it? The reason I ask is because I have heard a LOT of classical recordings, and this one is one of the best. I use Marche Slav on this disk to adjust my low end equalization because it goes so low and is so perfectly modulated. I can imagine idiots at Amazon saying it doesn't sound good, but I have trouble imagining someone who has actually heard the CD saying that. There are Japanese audiophiles that go ape over LP pressings, and the out of print SACD is beginning to go up in price. This is one of the best recordings ever for sound quality.

The CD on Amazon (at the moment) is $10.48 and the SACD is $11.74. I'm thinking a little DSD action on this one - thanks!

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