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Looking to get some suggestions on a really good Brahms boxed set of all his symphonies and also  his violin and piano concerto's.

post #1832 of 8956
The symphonies with either Walter or Szell.

For the piano concerti, you might like either the Serkin set or the Fleisher set (both with Szell) or maybe the Gilels set with Jochum. I don't know if it's worth buying a set of the concerti instead of separate discs.
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Looking to get some suggestions on a really good Brahms boxed set of all his symphonies and also  his violin and piano concerto's.

not quite what you ask but I'd recommend Toscanini for the symphonies, Gilels/Jochum for the Piano Concertos, and Mutter/Karajan for the Violin Concerto. I doubt any boxset can best these three combined (but I hope to learn about one!)

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Looking to get some suggestions on a really good Brahms boxed set of all his symphonies and also  his violin and piano concerto's.

 

Haitink's recordings with the Concertgebouw were issued in a box containing the major orchestral works. Very solid stuff but out of print now. More recently there was a box conducted by Belohlavek, but I couldn't find any helpful reviews for that.
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Looking to get some suggestions on a really good Brahms boxed set of all his symphonies and also  his violin and piano concerto's.


For the violin concerto my highest recommendations goes to this one :

http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Khachaturian-Violin-Concertos/dp/B0000057LQ

 

 

I have a couple of recordings of this piece and while all are not bad - I guess someone attempting to play this concerto will be in the top league anyway, the above recording with the London S.O. , Antal Dorati with Henryk Szeryng as soloist is one emotional roller coaster. Highly dynamic, absolutely fearless of the technical difficulties and brilliant at the same time. I even have another recording of Szeryng of the same concert, a couple of years later. He himself was not able to get into the same sphere as during the Mercury recording. This recording is also included in the Living Presence box.

 

As for the symphonies, I have this box (only) :

Bernstein & Vienna Phil., DG

 

Lots of reviews on this edition here :

http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Symphonies-Variations-Academic-Overtures/dp/B000001G6Q/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1401378906&sr=1-4&keywords=brahms+symphonies+bernstein


Edited by icebear - 5/29/14 at 8:59am
post #1836 of 8956

Personally I'm a big fan of Bernstein's Brahms..

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Personally I'm a big fan of Bernstein's Brahms..

I find Bernstein Brahms a bit plodding  and emotionally overripe , particularly in the Wiener Phil set mentioned above, but I can see how his approach may be attractive to those looking for a Romantic performance, and may find Toscanini or Szell too astringent. Carlos Kleiber was the one who got the perfect balance of emotion and drive but AFAIK only recorded Symphony no 4?

 

Back to the OP question, there is a Bernstein boxset including the symphonies and violin concertos with the Wieners

I'd recommend to try before you buy on Spotify/youtube etc 

post #1838 of 8956

Brahms? Bruno Walter and Gunther Wand.

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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post

Looking to get some suggestions on a really good Brahms boxed set of all his symphonies and also  his violin and piano concerto's.

 

Haitink's recordings with the Concertgebouw were issued in a box containing the major orchestral works. Very solid stuff but out of print now. More recently there was a box conducted by Belohlavek, but I couldn't find any helpful reviews for that.

Here is the reissue of the Haitink box, now $32.30 from Amazon or less from a seller:
This 7CD box also includes the two orchestral Serenades, the two overtures, the Haydn variations, and a selection of the Hungarian Dances.


Edited by eyeresist - 5/29/14 at 7:24pm
post #1840 of 8956

Brahms tend to be a bit dull anyway. But under Haitink, it's double.

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Brahms tend to be a bit dull anyway. But under Haitink, it's double.


Brahms dull? :eek:...

 

Haitink..maybe, (not 'emotionally overripe' that's for sure  :D)

post #1842 of 8956
Is it ironic to call Haitink dull and then recommend Wand? wink.gif
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If you want a modern Brahms set, in spectacular sound, dazzlingly well played, brilliantly conducted - exciting, beautiful, moving - with a large orchestra, check out the Barenboim set from Chicago.

 

If you want smaller orchestra sound, still brilliantly conducted and sounding great, get Mackerras on Telarc. Either set will satisfy anyone who wants to know these great symphonies. They are not dull at all. If they are, then blame the conductor.

 

Now, if you want the single most viscerally exciting, electrifying set ever made you have to get the Bruno Walter NYPO set from the early 50s. These are in mono (still sound great) and as good as the stereo 60's remakes were, this earlier set is even better. You have to hear the coda of the 2nd symphony finale to believe it - electrifying beyond words. Boy, could that man conduct - it will lift you out of your seat.

 

For the concertos, there are so many fine sets that picking "the best" is impossible. But Gilels/Jochum or Fleisher/Szell are about as good as is gets. Violin concerto: Heifetz/Reiner is tops on my list. Double concerto: I just don't like this work at all, I have Heifetz/Piatigorsky/Wallenstein and it's good enough for me - not a favorite.

 

Then, there's the Brahms 5th symphony: the Schoenberg arrangement of the g-minor piano quartet - great music, brilliant orchestration and thoroughly entertaining. Many fine recordings, but Neeme Jarvi on Chandos really nails the finale.

post #1844 of 8956

I haven't heard any of these recordings, but the single most exciting performance I've ever heard at the Chicago Symphony was Haitink conducting Brahms's first symphony a few years ago. I was not alone - a woman visiting from LA (pre-Dudamel) who was sitting next to me asked if it was always so amazing.

post #1845 of 8956

The CSO is amazing to hear anytime - such precision, depth, balance, blend - surely the greatest orchestra on this continent. And the hall they play in on Michigan Ave is tops, too. Despite the modern look and feel, LA's Gehry designed hall doesn't sound nearly as good.

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