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I actually listened to the entire Neumann cycle this winter and found it quite enjoyable.

I considered mentioning it here but you beat me to it.


Reminds me the Neumann set is still on my wishlist, I'll put it on top :rolleyes:

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One thing I will say about the Neumann Mahler that some people probably won't like about it is his relative inflexibility of tempi and lack of sentimentality.

 

His tempi are often very fast and often doesn't yield even when the scores venture into calmer waters.

 

They made my wife feel "nervous" :eek: . 

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This is interesting. Need to listen Neumman. Never tried the full cycle with the same people.

 

I always had difficult to name my best Mahler Cycle Orchestra/Conductor. In my playlists there are for each Mahler Symphony one different conductor/orchestra.

 

Right now the top, based on the "plays" number, on ipod:

 

1st. Kubelik BRSO

2nd. Rattle BPO

3rd. Bernstein NYPO

4th. Reiner (from Living Stereo)

5th. Bernstein NYPO

6th Abbado Berlin

9th Walter VPO

post #1534 of 8956

Since Mahler draws such varied commentary, I won't repeat all the standbys that everybody loves such as Klemperer 2nd, Barbirolli 5th, Karajan and Bernstein's 9ths.  Instead I'll just single out a few oddballs that people don't always agree on.  I am really impressed by the Mehta 2nd and 5th on Decca/London for performance and sound.   I also treasure the Walter stereo 1st more than many and replay it often.  I also suggest you listen to the late RCA Mahler 2nd of Stokowski  -- he certainly sounds more vigorous in his old age than most young superstar conductors.

 

Also, there's the issue of remasterings and which have gotten better and which worse.  I had always loved the Giulini/Chicago 9th on vinyl.  The first CD issue was simply awful.  Totally lost  the sound. The remastering is much better although some of the richness is still not there.  In contrast the Bernstein Sony remasterings have made me love the Bernstein NYPO series because I couldn't stand to listen to the bad Columbia vinyl.  In fact, I bought the entire Bernstein Sony Symphony box (which contains the complete Mahler, Beethoven, Brahms, and Tchaikovsky symphonies among many others) and find it a total revelation.

 

And the Abravanel set is an interesting take on Mahler.  Not perfect but very clear and sprightly.  I have a few of the LPs and bought the super cheap complete MP3 download of all the symphonies off Amazon (part of the Big Mahler box for only $2.99!).  Try his 8th.

post #1535 of 8956

Mahler

 

01 Bohm, Solti

02 Klemperer, Rattle

03 Rattle

04 Szell

05 Barbirolli, Barshai

06 Karajan

07 Abbado, Solti

08 Solti

09 Barbirolli

10 Rattle

post #1536 of 8956
Just to link back to a previous post I made, my favourite Mahlers are

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626563/best-classical-recordings-ever/450#post_9945257

I too have a soft spot for the Neumann recordings, especially 3, 6, 8 and 9. They are very characteristic and unique in both style and interpretation.
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Mahler

 

01 Bohm, Solti

02 Klemperer, Rattle

03 Rattle

04 Szell

05 Barbirolli, Barshai

06 Karajan

07 Abbado, Solti

08 Solti

09 Barbirolli

10 Rattle

 

I see you have Rattle's 3rd as your favorite.

I've not heard it and am curious as to why you favor it.

Could you please explain why?

 

I've only recently started listening to Rattle's work in general and have often been pleasantly surprised.

To be honest though, I've only been listening to his recordings of modern repertoire.

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Speaking of Rattle, this one my "desert island" works of any genre:

 

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I have been exploring Iván Fischer for some of the Mahler works and some of it are quite good.

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I've picked up the Fischer Mahler recordings and maybe no more. The 6th was terrific and the 2nd was really great - and the sound! 4th was pretty good. Then came the 1st - and I wasn't so thrilled with the performance. Not terrible, but far from first-rate. Didn't catch fire for me. The fifth was just not up to snuff. The electricity was gone. A lot of conductors do stumble on this symphony, but I expected more. No one can be great at all of these symphonies, but maybe Fischer doesn't really believe in some of them. I remember an interview he did after the 6th and he said he didn't intend to do a complete cycle - maybe now we know why.

 

Mehta: his 2nd with Vienna has always been one of the best of all. His 3rd is tremendous, too. When he was in LA he proved with Mahler credentials quite well. Sadly, like Kemmerer, he didn't do all of Mahler. I always hoped he would take on the 7th, but he never did.

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Originally Posted by fractus2 View Post
 

Mahler

 

01 Bohm, Solti

02 Klemperer, Rattle

03 Rattle

04 Szell

05 Barbirolli, Barshai

06 Karajan

07 Abbado, Solti

08 Solti

09 Barbirolli

10 Rattle

 

I see you have Rattle's 3rd as your favorite.

I've not heard it and am curious as to why you favor it.

Could you please explain why?

 

I've only recently started listening to Rattle's work in general and have often been pleasantly surprised.

To be honest though, I've only been listening to his recordings of modern repertoire.

 

it's the only 3 i have, and it's a key recording in the penguin guide.

post #1542 of 8956
The only thing I like about Rattle is his hair. Solti and Abbado are like stressful OCD and sludgey slack,

No one has mentioned Walter and Tennstedt. That makes no sense, because both of them are a lot better than some of the other conductors mentioned here.
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No one has mentioned Walter and Tennstedt. That makes no sense, because both of them are a lot better than some of the other conductors mentioned here.

 

Actually both have been mentioned in this thread (albeit minimally).

Not enough though.

Especially Walter.

 

And regarding Rattle's hair, I bet he gets more action than you :tongue: .

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 Solti .......................... stressful OCD .........................,

 

 

 

I think there's a lot of "stressful OCD" in Mahler's writing in addition to Solti's conducting.

 

In addition:

 

Solti's 1st and 8th are first rate IMO.

post #1545 of 8956
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The only thing I like about Rattle is his hair. Solti and Abbado are like stressful OCD and sludgey slack,

No one has mentioned Walter and Tennstedt. That makes no sense, because both of them are a lot better than some of the other conductors mentioned here.

I mentioned Tennstedt for the second. I really enjoy Walter's Brahms, especially nos 1 & 3.
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