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post #1306 of 8942

Yes.

 

I don't mean to sound dismissive about Stravinsky's conducting.

I have the box set(SONY) of him conducting his works and it's one of my prized possessions.

 

There are many insights into his work on these recordings IMO.

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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post



Yes, I feel the same. Still, it was very interesting to hear his tempos and approach. The big difference with many other performances is the lack of Hollywood style histrionics and hysteria, which is maybe closer to how Stravinsky conceived it, whether we like it or not!

 

Meant to quote yo in my last post:smile:.

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Another term for "conducting with hollywood style hysteria and histrionics" is "conducting with style". I don't see the point in taking something as primitive and brutal as Rite of Spring and conducting it like it was abstract notes on a piece of paper. I don't think Stravinsky was his own best interpreter. The neoclassical approach is fine for his neoclassical pieces, but the earlier works should be performed with flair.


Edited by bigshot - 1/29/14 at 3:52pm
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Thanks so much! For the Beecham I am worried about sound quality, as they were recorded in the late 50s. I'd rather have complete or close to complete versions, but with such praise for the Aadland recording I might give it a try. I am eyeing the Jarvi recordings, both the Neeme and Paavo. Do you know how they differ?

Wonder how you're getting on? My understanding is that there have been a number of scholarly investigations on Grieg's Peer Gynt both to try to determine what the original "complete version" was as well as what Grieg might have released had he had the opportunity to do so. He certainly indicated late in life that he would like to have published a much more complete version than the suites. Here's two fairly recent recordings that should have benefited from that research (in Norwegian).

Bergen PO Ole Christian Ruud :
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISSACD1441%252F42

Gothenburg SO Neeme Järvi :
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4775433

The Neeme version certainly has more Peer Gynt music that the Paavo.

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Hello,
What you can recommend better than this one:

http://janinejansen.com/mendelssohn-bruch-violin-concertos/

Ideally modern high resolution recording?

Thanks a lot,
Krzysztof

Looks like a pretty fine choice for that pairing. I see she's performing in London at the moment; hope she's brought some warm clothes... 

Vadim Gluzman might be worth a look for the Bruch :
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISSACD1852

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Bergen PO Ole Christian Ruud :

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/BIS/BISSACD1441%252F42

 

Gothenburg SO Neeme Järvi :
http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/DG/4775433

 

I've heard these. Ruud is good. Jarvi isn't very good.

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The Bernstein version has a bit of storied reputation.

Some of the reputation is based on Stravinsky's own comments about it

which were "Wow!".

 

Of course there are many ways to interpret "Wow!" but....

 

 

There are always several ways to interpret anything Stravinsky ever said :D Be interested to hear the original source of the claim that the composer in his mid seventies made such an exclamation. Wonder if it could have been said "under the influence"?

 

 

The stereo Philharmonia Markevi(t)ch recording was a budget priced LP in early 70s in UK which is probably why that was the one that first introduced me to the work. No regrets though...

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Another term for "conducting with hollywood style hysteria and histrionics" is "conducting with style". I don't see the point in taking something as primitive and brutal as Rite of Spring and conducting it like it was abstract notes on a piece of paper.

Such as Boulez's record of Concerto for Orchestra.
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Such as Boulez's record of Concerto for Orchestra.

 

Stravinsky(nor Boulez for that matter) never composed a "Concerto for Orchestra".....

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Such as Boulez's record of Concerto for Orchestra.

 

Bartok's maybe?

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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post

Another term for "conducting with hollywood style hysteria and histrionics" is "conducting with style". I don't see the point in taking something as primitive and brutal as Rite of Spring and conducting it like it was abstract notes on a piece of paper.

Such as Boulez's record of Concerto for Orchestra.

I knew what you meant!

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I noticed nobody mentioned Robert Craft in the context of Le Sacre...

 

Interesting considering Stravinsky has been quoted as favoring Craft's interpretation of his works.

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Can I throw a curveball?

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I knew what you meant!

 

Boulez haters often come into play out of context :devil_face:

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Originally Posted by perhapss View Post
 

I noticed nobody mentioned Robert Craft in the context of Le Sacre...

 

Interesting considering Stravinsky has been quoted as favoring Craft's interpretation of his works.

He didn't stick around to hear Boulez and Dorati though! ;)

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