I can't notice ANY difference between these two AMPs. WHY?? - Page 2

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Originally Posted by stv014 

 

Of course, if the HUD-MX1 includes an amplifier that is already good enough to drive the LCD-2 well and without any audible issues, then the V200 is not needed.

The V200 is much better than the amp in the HUD-MX1. 

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Originally Posted by Hooster 

I just think the Audeze is too good for the audinst and matching those does not make much sense. The V200 is not likely to help much.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/618984/audeze-lcd-3-and-1k-amp-or-audeze-lcd-2-and-2k-where-is-the-sweet-spot/165

 

"I owned the V200 for about a year, first with the LCD-2 rev 1 and then with the LCD-3 (original and RMA'd versions).  I liked the V200, especially for its size and price, but IMO it's a bit too warm and congested for the Audeze models I had, especially considering that warmth and a less-than-expansive soundstage seem to be inherent weaknesses of Audezes.

 

I tried the V200 first with the Lavry DA-10, which was fairly neutral but lacked a bit of realism and excitement, and may have contributed to the constricted soundstage.  I then tried the V200 with my current source, the PS Audio PWD MKII, which is much more resolving, natural, dynamic, and 3-dimensional than the DA10.  The V200 was better with the PWD, but still seemed a bit too boomy in the bass and imaging seemed a bit dull and lacking focus.  Those issues have disappeared with the Liquid Fire, which is by far the best (and most expensive) amp I've heard with the LCD-3."

That is one person's opinion. I felt the LCD-2 sounded great with the V200 amp.

maybe  better usb/rca cables,  like a wireworld would open up things a notch...:P

ok ignore my statement....else i'll  be stoned alive.

Is it possible your headphones are not detail revealing enough?... or are "colored" enough to help mask the sonic differences?  I have found my HF1 does this a lot, RS1 does this a little.  Sonic differences are easier to hear with my flatter more accurate headphones.  But thats just me.

My modest setup goes:

Macbook Pro CD / iTunes optical out => Entech DAC =>Larocco PPA / Millet Hybrid

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Originally Posted by PANGES 

If you can't tell the difference between the two, then sell the more expensive one and run away while you still can!! :)

He is compromising his more expensive one by listening to the cheaper one through it. If he insists on using the audinst he should sell the V200 tomorrow because the way he uses it it is just an expensive ornament.

Because BOTH are 'good enough' ie 'transparent' ???

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Originally Posted by Hooster 

I just think the Audeze is too good for the audinst and matching those does not make much sense. The V200 is not likely to help much.

The Audinst cannot just be dismissed as a "low quality" source simply because it does not have a huge price tag, unless there is any objective evidence to prove otherwise. A DAC does not have to be expensive to perform well enough that it has no audible flaws.

I was in a similar situation as the OP except that I went with the Schiit Asgard instead of the V200 and use the DT880 250ohm headphones.

I DID notice a difference.  It could be due to the fact that the DT880s improve more with some extra juice than the LCD-2s which are only 60 ohms.  Perhaps the Audinst was simply giving the LCDs all the juice they needed and upping that isn't going to make a significant difference especially if both amps have a similar sound signature.  I could be completely off here since my knowledge of Audeze headphones is extremely limited.

My advice would be to either upgrade the DAC in a final last-ditch effort or to sell the V200 and be happy with the Audinst which is already a very nice sounding unit.