They don't stomp all over the HA-S400 and HA-S500..However. which is crazy talk. The difference in a higher end sound and these cheapo JVCs are not that far off at all. It is shocking to think about. Lol.
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Gear mentioned in this thread:post #422 of 144110/12/12 at 5:28pmpost #423 of 144110/12/12 at 6:01pmQuote:
+1 yea you showed us HOW but I don't think he ever told us what it sounded like come to think of it... lol I even ordered a pair.post #424 of 144110/12/12 at 6:12pmI was looking for someone with the S400, AT leathers and Shure 840 pads to do a listen with the 840 pads over the AT leathers on these.........I think it is an awesome sound, increasing soundstage, improving mids, and more details and clarity throughout.....just experimenting for now. I do have HM5 pads coming as well. I am also getting very good results with the 840 pads on my AT-W1000X.....pad rolling, who'd a thunk it....really works....transforms headphones. Just looking for impressions along these lines......I was ready to give up on the S400 and give them away as a gift!post #425 of 144110/12/12 at 6:25pmQuote:Originally Posted by cute
I was looking for someone with the S400, AT leathers and Shure 840 pads to do a listen with the 840 pads over the AT leathers on these.........I think it is an awesome sound, increasing soundstage, improving mids, and more details and clarity throughout.....just experimenting for now. I do have HM5 pads coming as well. I am also getting very good results with the 840 pads on my AT-W1000X.....pad rolling, who'd a thunk it....really works....transforms headphones. Just looking for impressions along these lines......I was ready to give up on the S400 and give them away as a gift!
So wait the Shure 840 and 440 pad works for this pad-on-pad mod on the S500s? Thought someone mentioned that it was a no go. The monoprice DJ headphone pads are a no go for sure cuz it doesn't stretch or wrap over the S500 pads at all.
edit: I remember rick said he was using coby pads (which is similar to the ATH Pleathers) on his S500s with a microsoft lifechat headphone pad over it. He said the comfort is increased a lot but created too much bass for him due to a chamber effect of the pad-on-pad mod.
Edited by sfwalcer - 10/12/12 at 6:40pmpost #426 of 144110/12/12 at 6:48pmI am talking about using the 840 pads over the AT leathers.......they cannot be attached permanently, just doing a listen, with very good results. Just looking someone with both pads to give it a try to compare impressions! Not the S500, just the S400! Not hearing too much bass, but a nice balanced sound with improved mids, etc like I stated in an earlier post!post #427 of 144110/12/12 at 6:56pm
Oh thought you meant wrapping the shure pads over either the S500s or the S400s, so the million dollar question is can the shure pads wrap over the stock pads of these JVCs just like how rick did for his?post #428 of 144110/12/12 at 7:02pmpost #429 of 144110/12/12 at 7:21pmpost #430 of 144110/12/12 at 11:57pmBTW, so one of the two pairs of s400 I sold off to a co-worker. He reported back today and he and his wife listened to them and he was really happy about the purchase. Wants to get the 500's now. Yet another nanotube fan.....
Oh.. almost forgot to use one of these: !post #431 of 144110/13/12 at 1:15ampost #432 of 144110/13/12 at 1:19ampost #433 of 144110/13/12 at 11:17amQuote:
That's good to hear. You jumping off the S400/S500 bandwagon would not be good! (especially considering I only got my S500's lat night lol! Still looking forward to getting the pleathers..)post #434 of 144110/13/12 at 11:53amQuote:Originally Posted by Doc-holliday
Only got to hear a few songs (stock out of the box).... I am NOT blown away... Will get to hear more a bit later.
Edit: 2 pairs white. Listening more... highs are not too bright. Gunna try velours with these.
Okay I'm back I got to spend a little time with them and out of the box from just a comparison:
S400 with stock pads: Sounded veiled to me. Actually more like muffled. Didn't take me long to remove the stock pads.
S400 with AT velvet pads: Wish it would have worked out. Not as ear pearcingly harsh in the highs as generally the S400 is not a sparkly and bright as the s500. But just very empty and bereft of lows and low mids. Thin sounding like the s500 was to me but not painful like the s500. I did get more out of these by increasing the clamping force with my hands. Brought in acceptable levels of bass but left the mids sounding artificial.
S400 with HD25 velour: Similar problem to the At pads except with more bass presence.
S400 with AT pleather pads: Ah ha! We have a winner. The reason I prefer the HD25 pads on the S500 over these pads is because it brings forward the mids. Well the S400 is already more forward in the mid department and with less sparkle in the highs so these pads work out well (better IMO than on the S500). I didn't find the bass to be too much though it is significantly increased in quantity, Quality is not bad though extension is not as good as the 500(the AT's simply get a MUCH better seal than the stock due to better flexibility and softness). I could spend more time comparing the two here.
I actually really like the S400 a lot with the AT pleather pads on them. Smoother in the high end although less detail. I guess I could say it similarly to how DSnuts described it extension is slightly less at both ends with the 400 vs the 500.
S400 with HD25 Pleather pads: No good. To me the S500 needs to have the mids brought forward which the HD25 pads do nicely. With the S400 they just ruin the sound. Not nearly as bad as the velour/velvet pads IMO but just no go on these with the S400.
I still prefer the S500 with the HD25 pads on them over the S400 with the AT leather but they are very close and for sure my favorite combos with the two respectively. I would use the S400 when I am in the mood for more forward mids and emphasized bass and the S500 when I want to hear female vocalists and more detail.
Perhaps they are even a draw in that respect. Much of this might be premature. I tried to quickly get through everything before I hit the sack. This is all subject to change. Just my initial impressions and before any burn in. You will all have to forgive me if I change my mind on any of this but some of it I am pretty sure settled on.
would be interesting to also see a comparison with the AKG pads..
Also While burning in and waiting for pads to come I decided to mak a super cheapo mod to give the space it needed to eliminate congestioon from being too clamped close to my head.
I can't believe how simply adding a rolled up napkkin around the edges of the inner pad seemed to totally solve my ear problem and clear up the sound so much what I am hearing is definitely not $25 or $50 or even $100 but easily surpases and dare I say even in the $200+ range headphone sound in both imaging and presence. I am used to my ATH esw9 so I like my mids smooth and this unit delivers.
The napkin paper I placed created the distance needed as the headband just clamped thosr
thin stock pads to closely to my ears.
Also it seems to clear up sound a bit. maybe the paper can absorbs any resonances?
Anyway the stock pads are still firm and not comfortable for long..
Also just to know, I have average to sma ears and dont have a big head but can feel/ notice the secure clamp of these headphone.
Edited by Maxx134 - 10/13/12 at 12:05pmpost #435 of 144110/13/12 at 12:39pmTip: Insert paper napkins with the pads on.
Edit: Maxx i am rocking my s500. Great idea! You can even tune the bass, if you want less bass or a more open sound just add more napkins Wow man. Thanks!
Guys. Try it, so simple ans easy and its free.. Would be nice to find a replacement for the napkins, some kind of O Ring that whe can insert the pads. Anyway, inam liking it, i am using stock pads and it sounds better.
Tip2. Roll! Roll that paper. You guys know what i mean. Rollit . Insert under the pads.
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