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post #376 of 1419
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Originally Posted by Spider fan View Post

The s400s certainly sound more laid backed and balanced than the s500s.    

 

I agree that the s400 sound more laid back vs the s500.......I think it's because the s500 has more clarity and detail in bass, mids and treble, and create more spacious/airy, bigger soundstage and separation!

post #377 of 1419

From what I am hearing the S400s are pretty close to the S500s. And this is with zero burn-in on open box. Crazy. I think these S400s have a more fun and musical sound to them but the S500s are for sure better technically. Will see in due time.  L3000.gif popcorn.gif

post #378 of 1419
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

From what I am hearing the S400s are pretty close to the S500s. And this is with zero burn-in on open box. Crazy. I think these S400s have a more fun and musical sound to them but the S500s are for sure better technically. Will see in due time.  L3000.gif popcorn.gif

 

If you have AT velour pads, A/B the S400 and S500, details, clarity, soundstage and separation are much better with the S500.....S400 are veiled in comparison!

post #379 of 1419
Only got to hear a few songs (stock out of the box).... I am NOT blown away... Will get to hear more a bit later.

Edit: 2 pairs white. Listening more... highs are not too bright. Gunna try velours with these.

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Edit2:

Okay I'm back I got to spend a little time with them and out of the box from just a comparison:

S400 with stock pads: Sounded veiled to me. Actually more like muffled. Didn't take me long to remove the stock pads.

S400 with AT velvet pads: Wish it would have worked out. Not as ear pearcingly harsh in the highs as generally the S400 is not a sparkly and bright as the s500. But just very empty and bereft of lows and low mids. Thin sounding like the s500 was to me but not painful like the s500. I did get more out of these by increasing the clamping force with my hands. Brought in acceptable levels of bass but left the mids sounding artificial.

S400 with HD25 velour: Similar problem to the At pads except with more bass presence.

S400 with AT pleather pads: Ah ha! We have a winner. The reason I prefer the HD25 pads on the S500 over these pads is because it brings forward the mids. Well the S400 is already more forward in the mid department and with less sparkle in the highs so these pads work out well (better IMO than on the S500). I didn't find the bass to be too much though it is significantly increased in quantity, Quality is not bad though extension is not as good as the 500(the AT's simply get a MUCH better seal than the stock due to better flexibility and softness). I could spend more time comparing the two here.

I actually really like the S400 a lot with the AT pleather pads on them. Smoother in the high end although less detail. I guess I could say it similarly to how DSnuts described it extension is slightly less at both ends with the 400 vs the 500.

S400 with HD25 Pleather pads: No good. To me the S500 needs to have the mids brought forward which the HD25 pads do nicely. With the S400 they just ruin the sound. Not nearly as bad as the velour/velvet pads IMO but just no go on these with the S400.

I still prefer the S500 with the HD25 pads on them over the S400 with the AT leather but they are very close and for sure my favorite combos with the two respectively. I would use the S400 when I am in the mood for more forward mids and emphasized bass and the S500 when I want to hear female vocalists and more detail.

Perhaps they are even a draw in that respect. Much of this might be premature. I tried to quickly get through everything before I hit the sack. This is all subject to change. Just my initial impressions and before any burn in. You will all have to forgive me if I change my mind on any of this but some of it I am pretty sure settled on.
Edited by Doc-holliday - 10/10/12 at 11:16pm
post #380 of 1419
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Originally Posted by rickdohc View Post



Present.... reading.. watching.. waiting............................  bored .... waiting....

 

Good things comes to those who wait ! biggrin.gif

 

 

Going thru the posts, I am reminded of how we all hear differently and have different expectations of these $25 - $40 portables.

 

All is good as we share our opinions on these so that others who are considering them have some references on what to expect.

post #381 of 1419
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Originally Posted by cyloh View Post

 

Both the S400 and 500 finally arrived today. This is my 2nd pair of S500 by the way.

The first one transformed in to a full sized headphone.

 

 

Side by side. S400 on the left.

 

 

Without the pads.

 

 

A closed look.

 

 

S400 driver on the top and S500 on the bottom.

 

 

Similar cup chamber, or more or less the same actually.

 

 

S400 headband pads are made of hard foam/sponge material while the S500 is soft pleather.

 

 

S400 pads on the left, S500 on the right. No difference here.

 

 

The pleather on the S400 pad from behind is slightly glossy. Beyond that they seem to measure the same.

It looks like the mounting holes are the same on both headphones?  then it is possible to shift the plate with the drivers from S500 to S400 and voila, you have a pair of white S500, perhaps also with a pair of blue HD25 pads on. cool.gif

post #382 of 1419

mmm, I am very happy with the S500 and the numerous pad change make me discover always new sounds, so after reading your impressions think I'll leave on the shelf the S400 and will focus my few finances (my poor wallet cry!!!) on new AKG K618/619 or Tiesto.

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Originally Posted by Doc-holliday View Post

Only got to hear a few songs (stock out of the box).... I am NOT blown away... Will get to hear more a bit later.
Edit: 2 pairs white. Listening more... highs are not too bright. Gunna try velours with these.
Edit2: Okay I'm back I got to spend a little time with them and out of the box from just a comparison:
S400 with stock pads: Sounded veiled to me. Actually more like muffled. Didn't take me long to remove the stock pads.
S400 with AT velvet pads: Wish it would have worked out. Not as ear pearcingly harsh in the highs as generally the S400 is not a sparkly and bright as the s500. But just very empty and bereft of lows and low mids. Thin sounding like the s500 was to me but not painful like the s500. I did get more out of these by increasing the clamping force with my hands. Brought in acceptable levels of bass but left the mids sounding artificial.
S400 with HD25 velour: Similar problem to the At pads except with more bass presence.
S400 with AT pleather pads: Ah ha! We have a winner. The reason I prefer the HD25 pads on the S500 over these pads is because it brings forward the mids. Well the S400 is already more forward in the mid department and with less sparkle in the highs so these pads work out well (better IMO than on the S500). I didn't find the bass to be too much though it is significantly increased in quantity, Quality is not bad though extension is not as good as the 500(the AT's simply get a MUCH better seal than the stock due to better flexibility and softness). I could spend more time comparing the two here.
I actually really like the S400 a lot with the AT pleather pads on them. Smoother in the high end although less detail. I guess I could say it similarly to how DSnuts described it extension is slightly less at both ends with the 400 vs the 500.
S400 with HD25 Pleather pads: No good. To me the S500 needs to have the mids brought forward which the HD25 pads do nicely. With the S400 they just ruin the sound. Not nearly as bad as the velour/velvet pads IMO but just no go on these with the S400.
I still prefer the S500 with the HD25 pads on them over the S400 with the AT leather but they are very close and for sure my favorite combos with the two respectively. I would use the S400 when I am in the mood for more forward mids and emphasized bass and the S500 when I want to hear female vocalists and more detail.
Perhaps they are even a draw in that respect. Much of this might be premature. I tried to quickly get through everything before I hit the sack. This is all subject to change. Just my initial impressions and before any burn in. You will all have to forgive me if I change my mind on any of this but some of it I am pretty sure settled on.
post #383 of 1419
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Originally Posted by LaRzZa View Post

It looks like the mounting holes are the same on both headphones?  then it is possible to shift the plate with the drivers from S500 to S400 and voila, you have a pair of white S500, perhaps also with a pair of blue HD25 pads on. cool.gif


Yeap you can do that but you'll have to do some soldering work too.

post #384 of 1419

yes ofc it needs some soldering for the cable.  normal_smile%20.gif

post #385 of 1419

After reading the S400 vs S500 from multiple people.  It almost seems best to just save my money and get the S500, more overall detail.  Though I do love mids.

 

 

Ug, what to do, what to do....  (I have to pick one, I do not want to buy both...)...

 

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post #386 of 1419

Get over yourself and buy both. They're hella cheap.

post #387 of 1419
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Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin View Post

After reading the S400 vs S500 from multiple people.  It almost seems best to just save my money and get the S500, more overall detail.  Though I do love mids.

 

 

Ug, what to do, what to do....  (I have to pick one, I do not want to buy both...)...

 

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 The S500 mids are very good......just get the AT leather pads and you will be happy!

post #388 of 1419
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Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin View Post

After reading the S400 vs S500 from multiple people.  It almost seems best to just save my money and get the S500, more overall detail.  Though I do love mids.

 

 

Ug, what to do, what to do....  (I have to pick one, I do not want to buy both...)...

 

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i would start with the S400, enjoy them and maybe in a few weeks/next month JVC realese them in the states and will be cheaper, who knows.


Edited by rickdohc - 10/11/12 at 8:32am
post #389 of 1419
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Originally Posted by gideonMorrison View Post

Get over yourself and buy both. They're hella cheap.

 

For some people, I am sure they are "hella cheap", but for me...  Not so much.  Thus why I just want to get one pair.

 

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Originally Posted by cute View Post

 The S500 mids are very good......just get the AT leather pads and you will be happy!

 

The more and more I read (every word of both the S400 and S500 thread) I am leaning more towards the S500. 

 

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post #390 of 1419

The S400 is a great $30 headphone, out of all the sub $50 headphones I had or tried, imo these are the best. @ $20-$30 everyone should give them a try. $20-$30 is nothing, it's pocket change in this hobby. I would not rank them above any of my headphones in the $100 range, and me being a basshead the bass is just good enough and the highs can be better. 

Now I'm excited to see what the S500 can do. 


Edited by RoMee - 10/11/12 at 8:34am
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