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Originally Posted by TontonJoK View Post

Rtc's are nice with hd800, I prefer them over Mullards biggrin.gif

+1. I did not like the Mullards with the HD800. I like the RTC's and the Cifte's are also very good. The best of the best (to me) with the HD800 are the Telefunkens.
Edited by R Scott Ireland - 11/2/14 at 2:55pm
post #857 of 870

How is the soundstage of HD800 with pan am? I've read somewhere before that pan am is not able to show HD800's best potential. 

post #858 of 870
A friend of mine have a audio gd master 8 amp + a sugden A21 SE + a dac metrum and a pan am and we compared

We used both : pan am + metrum dac + hd 800
Master 8 + metrum + Hd 800
pan am + ifi micro idac + hd 800
pan am alone with hd 800
metrum + sugden speaker tabs + hd 800

We did the same with : Lcd 2 fazor and Lcd2 old pre fazor
HE 6 + He 400 + denon 7100 + EM 32


The pan am have a very nice sound stage and sound very good with all set up, the difference is more related to the dac section ( timbres and details, decay and less about sound stage )

The built in dac from the pan am is not bad but not the best, the amp section is very nice
Edited by TontonJoK - 11/7/14 at 11:31pm
post #859 of 870

Do you mean that pan am's performance still excellent even when compared to the more expensive one?

Is the tube able to tame the peaky high?

Thank you for your response.

post #860 of 870
definitely YES
post #861 of 870
The improvement was more obvious when upgrading the dac section from the pan am, more expensive amps was better but not a lot

I think the P.Am amp section is very very good and the built in dac good

After upgrading the dac for a ifi micro idac I noticed a good sonic difference from pan am, the metrum was better but the price also rolleyes.gif

About highs and HD 800 I did the DIY tweak explained in innerfidelity web site and the result is really worth the hassle
post #862 of 870
For tubes and highs, the Mullards will tame the treble but my favorites are RTC or Telefunken
The Voshkod 6ZH1P-EV was very good but IMO emphasizing trebles (or high medium) more than others

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Edited by TontonJoK - 11/7/14 at 11:36pm
post #863 of 870

Lots of people say that with amps that have bad synergy with HD800, the sound will be too dry and lifeless. How is the pan am with HD800?

post #864 of 870
It's not dry at all, lot's of bass and lively, I sold my Lcd2's since I was so impressed by hd 800

With hd 800 get some with serial number after 20000 (more bass and less dry)
post #865 of 870
The hd 800 have sub bass may be a little less than pre fazor lcd 2's but way more than fazor one
The rest is so much better, it is just my opinion and what 2 others friends noticed
post #866 of 870
Just pull the trigger on some NOS Telefunken tubes. Will post impressions by the end of the week!
post #867 of 870
Did the same, I found some printed telefunken on ebay
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Any Pan-Amsters out there savvy to the Burson Conductor amp? Any comments or comparisons would be very appreciated!

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I received the 6ak5w telefunken and so far I'm very impressed by the soundstage and how it let you perceive height-width and depth
The bass is bigger than from RTC and very closed in amount to the russians tube but being more punchy and with more slam
I need more hours to compare all the tubes I have but those telefunkens are very addictive
post #870 of 870
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Originally Posted by TontonJoK View Post

I received the 6ak5w telefunken and so far I'm very impressed by the soundstage and how it let you perceive height-width and depth
The bass is bigger than from RTC and very closed in amount to the russians tube but being more punchy and with more slam
I need more hours to compare all the tubes I have but those telefunkens are very addictive

Your impression seem promising. Still waiting on mine!

Unrelated topic: are any of you Pan Am users using some kind of socket saver? One of my sockets has become a little loose but I want to make sure that I can fit a socket saver in the tube opening before pulling the trigger.
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