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I've also joined the PanAm owners club!  I saw the sale and decided to risk it even though I've seen mixed reviews with the HD800s.  I got the Passport as well and they should be arriving on Monday.  I originally ordered the black version but apparently that's discontinued, so I ended up getting the silver version.

 

ALO only had the Radiotechnique tubes available as optional extras, so I've bought those in case they turn out okay (they were cheap enough), but I'll try and source some Mullards too as those work best in my Earmax.

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So I think I am in a pickle here. I got the pan am in. I live in Portland so i was able to just go and pick it up.

Well just like previous comments the thing distorts on the T50 drivers. This doesn't happen on low gain as fast as high gain. I noticed it as soon as I plugged my ZMF x Vibros. Well I want to return it/sell it buttttttt.... This bass is incredibly tight and textured and My Voshkods haven't even arrived yet! Stock sounds really good. I can't recall an amp having better bass than this. It's either keep it and run a line out from the hp out into an emotiva mini on low gain, or just get a lyr 2 now and be stuck without a good dac under 250 to give me rich tight bass.

Man what a freaking bummer. Ideal sound but distorted. I had this issue with the island but even worse.
Edited by grizzlybeast - 7/19/14 at 11:25pm
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Anyone here uses iDAC for the pan am? Is iDAC better than pan am built in dac? :)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

So I think I am in a pickle here. I got the pan am in. I live in Portland so i was able to just go and pick it up.

Well just like previous comments the thing distorts on the T50 drivers. This doesn't happen on low gain as fast as high gain. I noticed it as soon as I plugged my ZMF x Vibros. Well I want to return it/sell it buttttttt.... This bass is incredibly tight and textured and My Voshkods haven't even arrived yet! Stock sounds really good. I can't recall an amp having better bass than this. It's either keep it and run a line out from the hp out into an emotiva mini on low gain, or just get a lyr 2 now and be stuck without a good dac under 250 to give me rich tight bass.

Man what a freaking bummer. Ideal sound but distorted. I had this issue with the island but even worse.


If you like the bass with the stock tubes, you'll love them with the Voshkods

To get the sound distorted you should listen to a very high level ??
I don't get any distortion with my lcd2, my ears are bleeding before
post #665 of 669
thanks!

It was my source and I have found it loud enough now.
Edited by grizzlybeast - 7/21/14 at 12:14am
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Originally Posted by BattousaiX26 View Post

Anyone here uses iDAC for the pan am? Is iDAC better than pan am built in dac? smily_headphones1.gif

Could be... But iDSD nano certainly is:)
post #667 of 669
Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

So I think I am in a pickle here. I got the pan am in. I live in Portland so i was able to just go and pick it up.

Well just like previous comments the thing distorts on the T50 drivers. This doesn't happen on low gain as fast as high gain. I noticed it as soon as I plugged my ZMF x Vibros. Well I want to return it/sell it buttttttt.... This bass is incredibly tight and textured and My Voshkods haven't even arrived yet! Stock sounds really good. I can't recall an amp having better bass than this. It's either keep it and run a line out from the hp out into an emotiva mini on low gain, or just get a lyr 2 now and be stuck without a good dac under 250 to give me rich tight bass.

Man what a freaking bummer. Ideal sound but distorted. I had this issue with the island but even worse.


I highly recommend get those:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matched-Pair-Sylvania-NOS-NIB-JAN-CHS-6AK5W-6J1-EF95-tubes-1942-Little-Dot-/201101819304?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item2ed29a3da8

They don't distort that much, you can drive T50 drivers up to really huge amount of bass, and also these tubes extremely improve stability of Pan Am, which results in detailed mids, tight bass, and only slight distortion in high freq. The distortion starts to appear at 3 o'clock when I boost bass to reach almost 0dB, but even then it's still a pleasure to listen (if loosing hearing can be called pleasure) tongue.gif

BTW I am curious how ZMF x Vibros would compare to Alpha Dogs. They are on Alpha pads, yes?
Edited by koolas - 7/21/14 at 2:54pm
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Thanx I'll look into it!

AD = lean, clean,fast,open
ZMF x VIBRO = lush, warm, punchy
Edited by grizzlybeast - 7/21/14 at 4:38pm
post #669 of 669

I have my PanAm and about 24 hours of time with the stock tubes (do they have a name?) and they are already a beautiful match with my LCD-2's.

 

 

 

I was looking into transportation options for it and it's Passport buddy and I didn't realize that the Carry On from ALO's website was for that purpose. The pouches looked too small, but the PanAm was also smaller than I was expecting, even with everyone saying how small it is.

 

Does anyone have the Carry On? Any other cases for them? I might go the Pelican route and transport them with my Audeze's, but I think I'd rather put the PanAm/Passport/tubes in a case and that case in another bag that I usually carry.

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